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Old 02-02-2024, 03:58 PM   #1
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Angry I cannot believe Subaru still allows you to lock your keys in your car ('19 WRX base)

I just discovered this last week as I dropped off my 2019 WRX (base trim) at the local tire shop for some new tires.

I have 3 keys, 2 keys w/the key and fob and 1 mechanic/valet key that is just the physical metal key. (I cannot speak to Limited trim cars that are push-button start.)

When I parked the car outside the shop, using the mechanic's key in the driver door, I was amazed that locking the driver's door w/the metal key did not lock all of the other doors. (I always use the fob to lock my car)

Upon discovering this, I opened the driver's door back up and pushed the "lock" button on the door panel, then shut the door. That is when I discovered that ALL doors remained locked, even after the driver's door is shut...thus enabling one to lock their keys in the car for reasons unexplained.

No, I did not lock my key(s) in the car...and even if I did, I had my primary key/fob in my pocket.

This oversight on Subaru's part should not happen in a 2019 MY car, or any current production car for that matter. Shoot, my 2004 VW GTI (2-door) was smarter than my 2019 WRX in this regard.

In the GTI, if all doors were locked, and you shut the driver's door, the lock pin would pop up and you would have to physically lock the door w/the metal key or the fob lock button. You had to lock the doors after all doors were shut (genius).

Of course my 2004 GTI was smarter all the way around compared to my 2019 WRX, when it comes to door lock control. When driving off in the GTI, the car would lock the doors AUTOMATICALLY at 10 mph. Then, when it was time to exit the car, the car would open (unlock) the door when I pulled on the inner door release. My WRX does not unlock the door when the interior door release is pulled...why? Why not Subaru?

I cannot tell you how many times I've pulled on my WRX's inner door release to exit the car, after I manually locked the car when driving, and the door not open because it is still locked.

Yes, I know the car is a base model, but so was my GTI as it had the 1.8t engine vs the top trim VR6 engine.

To make it even worse (in the case of Subaru), my 1988, yes 1988 Mazda 323 LX 5spd (power everything plus manual sunroof), would lock all doors when I would lock the driver's door with the key (there was no key fob on my '88 Mazda. And it too would unlock the driver' door if it were locked when shut. Now, the Mazda did not auto-lock at speed, but, hey, it was 1988 and how many cars auto-locked back then? I could; however, lock/unlock all doors with the key from the driver's door (again, genius).

My car isn't horrible, but there are some (Subaru) engineering things I just don't understand. Do push-start cars behave the same way? Lock all doors using the interior button, then shut the door; do all doors stay locked?
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:17 PM   #2
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Eh, it's not that big of deal man.

Every car I've had works this way. Fords, Mazda, Acuras, Subarus.

Personally I'm glad I can lock it the way you describe.

Needing a key or FOB to lock it sounds like a pain in the ass.

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Old 02-03-2024, 03:25 PM   #3
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Eh, it's not that big of deal man.

Every car I've had works this way. Fords, Mazda, Acuras, Subarus.

Personally I'm glad I can lock it the way you describe.

Needing a key or FOB to lock it sounds like a pain in the ass.
I guess I forgot to mention, it is a weird set of circumstances for one to actually lock their keys in the car, but just like winning the mega millions jackpot, the right combination of events will result in the keys locked in the car.

I'm sure most with the remote fob use the fob lock button to lock the car. The car will lock all doors even if all of the doors are wide open. And then when you shut the doors, they shut w/o a fuss.

Again, it would take weird set of circumstances for the keys to get locked in my 2019 WRX, but because Subaru designed the door locks the way they did, there will always remain the possibility of that event happening.

Curious of the 2-door BRZ behaves the same way...
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Old 02-04-2024, 11:07 AM   #4
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I've been locked out of a car twice in my life...once I had to call AAA...the other time luckily I had the trunk open. The way the car was made you could push the lower portion of the seat back until it created enough space to crawl through (Not folding seats). You had to take the whole back seat apart to put it back in place but it saved me from calling triple A. After that day I've been vigilant to never lock myself out of any car. My RAV4 keeps trying to lock me out though. I've read nothing about automatic door locks yet after a minute or two of turning the car off and walking away it locks when the car has been turned off. I need to read through the manual again but it has no smart key and if I were to leave the keys in the car I would surely be locked out. My newer RAV4 which does have a smart key does not do this. I also can't find anything related to this in the vehicle settings. Gotta be vigilant!!!
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Old 02-09-2024, 10:54 PM   #5
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I just discovered this last week as I dropped off my 2019 WRX (base trim) at the local tire shop for some new tires.

I have 3 keys, 2 keys w/the key and fob and 1 mechanic/valet key that is just the physical metal key. (I cannot speak to Limited trim cars that are push-button start.)

When I parked the car outside the shop, using the mechanic's key in the driver door, I was amazed that locking the driver's door w/the metal key did not lock all of the other doors. (I always use the fob to lock my car)

Upon discovering this, I opened the driver's door back up and pushed the "lock" button on the door panel, then shut the door. That is when I discovered that ALL doors remained locked, even after the driver's door is shut...thus enabling one to lock their keys in the car for reasons unexplained.

No, I did not lock my key(s) in the car...and even if I did, I had my primary key/fob in my pocket.

This oversight on Subaru's part should not happen in a 2019 MY car, or any current production car for that matter. Shoot, my 2004 VW GTI (2-door) was smarter than my 2019 WRX in this regard.

In the GTI, if all doors were locked, and you shut the driver's door, the lock pin would pop up and you would have to physically lock the door w/the metal key or the fob lock button. You had to lock the doors after all doors were shut (genius).

Of course my 2004 GTI was smarter all the way around compared to my 2019 WRX, when it comes to door lock control. When driving off in the GTI, the car would lock the doors AUTOMATICALLY at 10 mph. Then, when it was time to exit the car, the car would open (unlock) the door when I pulled on the inner door release. My WRX does not unlock the door when the interior door release is pulled...why? Why not Subaru?

I cannot tell you how many times I've pulled on my WRX's inner door release to exit the car, after I manually locked the car when driving, and the door not open because it is still locked.

Yes, I know the car is a base model, but so was my GTI as it had the 1.8t engine vs the top trim VR6 engine.

To make it even worse (in the case of Subaru), my 1988, yes 1988 Mazda 323 LX 5spd (power everything plus manual sunroof), would lock all doors when I would lock the driver's door with the key (there was no key fob on my '88 Mazda. And it too would unlock the driver' door if it were locked when shut. Now, the Mazda did not auto-lock at speed, but, hey, it was 1988 and how many cars auto-locked back then? I could; however, lock/unlock all doors with the key from the driver's door (again, genius).

My car isn't horrible, but there are some (Subaru) engineering things I just don't understand. Do push-start cars behave the same way? Lock all doors using the interior button, then shut the door; do all doors stay locked?



I've been a fire fighter for 26 years. I just cannot understand how people lock their keys in their car when it's not running. For a quick answer to the push button start......no. You cannot accidentally lock your FOB in the car unless the FOB's battery is dead. Even then, you can access the car if you program a PIN code to the rear lock button.


As for a turn key? How?!?! You have your hand on the key to take it out of the ignition. It doesn't leave my hand until I'm out of the car, then I use the key to lock it, THEN it goes in my pocket. "Should" Subaru have done something different? Well, there are too many views on that.



Just like the doors auto-locking when driving. Which, now that Subaru does it, you can choose when it does. But, I had been in sooooooo many debates about that with customers coming from other brands that did it. "I can believe they don't do that. My last car did that". Then they'd say "if you want it unlocked, you can just push the button". To which, I would immediately retort with "Well, if you want it locked, you can always push the lock button."(and I WOULD give that kinda look when I said that). I HATE that feature and am glad it can be turned off. Two reasons. First is more of a personal experience/lack of knowledge reason. I was in a rental car and trying to pick up the family in the rain and it had locked the doors and I didn't quickly know where the danged button was and they got soaked. Second reason isn't much of a reason anymore with modern cars; but, in your old VWs, if you were in a wreck, the doors wouldn't auto-unlock. You know what kind of difficulty that puts on us? Instead of just opening the door, now we have to basically extricate the person out.



Anyway. It's a base model(as you even stated). Next time, don't get a base model.
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Old 02-13-2024, 02:21 AM   #6
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I've been a fire fighter for 26 years. I just cannot understand how people lock their keys in their car when it's not running. For a quick answer to the push button start......no. You cannot accidentally lock your FOB in the car unless the FOB's battery is dead. Even then, you can access the car if you program a PIN code to the rear lock button.

Anyway. It's a base model(as you even stated). Next time, don't get a base model.
Thank you for choosing to run to the fires while everyone else runs away.

fair arguments...

I chose the base model for no sunroof. The VW gave me enough sour lemons with its sunroof; I didn't want to deal with another sunroof. Maybe my next car; maybe.

Our Mazda CX-5, with push-button start won't let you lock the vehicle if there is a key fob inside the car and you use the other key fob to lock the car (the Mrs. and I each carry a key, even when we go out together). The Mazda beeps at you basically saying, "hey dummy, there is a key inside...".

As for cars that auto-lock at speed and don't auto-unlock in an accident, I can't speak to them on that feature. I guess that would have to go into the ECU programming if there was an airbag deployed to unlock the car.

My '04 GTI was very "German" and there are a lot of features I miss on it (however, the sunroof is not one of them). Audible warnings for everything to include "low fuel" and "low washer fluid". But I guess I didn't miss them that much as I followed my VW up with a Subaru.

I doubt I will lock myself out of the car given that I use the key fob 100% of the time to lock the car.

I guess I will never win the Mega Millions Jackpot either....
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