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Old 07-11-2020, 04:04 PM   #1
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Default The end all be all for STi Brembos on the cheap

I don't know if this has been brought to anyone's attention before, but as I don't scan the forums frequently I feel obligated to share this.

After years of searching ebay and nasioc for beat to crap used brembos, all outrageously priced, I stumbled across these gems by powerstop.

At first I thought it too good to be true, but I figured for the price, and it being on rock auto, there was little risk involved. I received the shipment 2 days after I ordered it, and I will let the pic speak for itself.




Best part of this..... They were $720.00 for the set!!!!! All four calipers, granted they are refurbished, but what are the alternatives? Buy a 60,000 mile beat to hell set off eBay for $1300 that need to be refurbished anyway?

At least these are actual oem calipers that have been rebuilt by a huge company that specializes in manufacturing brake parts, rather than your local powder coater. The threads on every caliper look perfect, possibly helicoiled. The finish is awesome and I don't even mind the Porsche-esque Powerstop logo. Looks like Powerstop gave a nice big middle finger to all those eBay sellers asking ridiculous prices for these things.

Again, forgive me if I am late to the party here, but this is awesome news and a total no brainer for any subie owner that wants brembos without bending over. THANK YOU POWERSTOP!
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Yeah, I believe someone posted about them, but they are a great deal. Would get them if my 95 didn't already have the TR style 4/2pots. I have the red powerstop calipers on my 06-07 2.5i and they were solid. One of my oems was seized and with the mileage on them I didn't feel like the hassle of rebuilding. The fact you can buy them powder coated red was a bonus. Already have the 06 TR 4/2pots on my 95 so don't want to go through the heavier rotor upgrades and have to sell mine to get the aluminum fronts, but would go with the powerstop if I hadn't already upgraded.
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Old 07-12-2020, 07:00 PM   #3
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Couldn't find the item on their website, can you provide link please?
Also, The "PowerStop" stickers on the front calipers can be removed or are they under the clear coats?


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Old 07-12-2020, 08:40 PM   #4
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Couldn't find the item on their website, can you provide link please?
Also, The "PowerStop" stickers on the front calipers can be removed or are they under the clear coats?


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https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...b,caliper,1704

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S3698 - fronts
S3780 - rears

Power stop logo is either painted or powder coated on there. No easy way to remove it. But it honestly looks really nice. Looks like a Porsche caliper with the power stop logo.
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Just remember that these are rebuilds, and not the genuine articles.

Powerstop buys these from some company who are in the business of buying up old brake calipers and rebuilding them to spec. As long as the caliper and resulting build are with in the spec range, they are considered to pass. That means they could be at the low end of the spec or at the high end of the spec, where they are on the edge of failing to meet spec.

The resulting caliper is only as good as the rebuild process used by whatever company does the rebuild. Powerstop just puts their name on them.

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Old 07-13-2020, 10:17 AM   #6
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FYI The powerstop logo wipes right off with lacquer thinner. Just don't be too aggressive with it.

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S3780 - rears

Power stop logo is either painted or powder coated on there. No easy way to remove it. But it honestly looks really nice. Looks like a Porsche caliper with the power stop logo.

Thanks man.


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FYI The powerstop logo wipes right off with lacquer thinner. Just don't be too aggressive with it.

So with these calipers, they are the same specs as 08+ Sti, just buy all other components (rotors, pads, SS lines, ect.) Same as Sti brembo kit and everything will work right?
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This is correct, But i'm still not seeing how this is worse than buying used articles with generally unknown history (seller can tell you anything honestly). The "re manufactured" world is tough I would honestly say your taking a gamble either way but at least with the reman you have ability to request a replacement if there is a failure in the present or in the future.



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Just remember that these are rebuilds, and not the genuine articles.

Powerstop buys these from some company who are in the business of buying up old brake calipers and rebuilding them to spec. As long as the caliper and resulting build are with in the spec range, they are considered to pass. That means they could be at the low end of the spec or at the high end of the spec, where they are on the edge of failing to meet spec.

The resulting caliper is only as good as the rebuild process used by whatever company does the rebuild. Powerstop just puts their name on them.
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Old 07-14-2020, 10:09 AM   #9
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This is correct, But i'm still not seeing how this is worse than buying used articles with generally unknown history (seller can tell you anything honestly). The "re manufactured" world is tough I would honestly say your taking a gamble either way but at least with the reman you have ability to request a replacement if there is a failure in the present or in the future.
True, at least you get 60 days to return/replace, which is better than nothing.

My point is don't think you are getting brand new calipers or think that these are the same as brand new calipers, due to the wide range of specs that re-manufactures operate in.
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S3780 - rears

Power stop logo is either painted or powder coated on there. No easy way to remove it. But it honestly looks really nice. Looks like a Porsche caliper with the power stop logo.
You'll want to note the rears are 08+ only, and will NOT fit the GD.
Is anyone able to track down the P/N for the GD rears?


I installed Centric reman 2-pots in the rear, and the color is a perfect match to the powerstops, but also lighter weight, and more rear bias than brembo rears.




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So with these calipers, they are the same specs as 08+ Sti, just buy all other components (rotors, pads, SS lines, ect.) Same as Sti brembo kit and everything will work right?
Thanks
Yes, they are remanufactured stock brembos. The fronts are the same 93-07 vs 08+, but the rears are different. You will need to buy the correct bolts from Subaru to bolt them to the knuckle as they are a different pitch than the standard caliper bolts, and you may need Kartboy V2 brackets (08+) for the rear (I don't know the details on 08+, I just know they're different).

**Don't be surprised if you run into availability issues with them. I had to wait for a little over a month after I placed my order to get mine. If demand picks up a bunch, I wouldn't be surprised if they become backordered/unavailable or the price goes way up**

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Old 07-17-2020, 08:35 AM   #12
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**Don't be surprised if you run into availability issues with them. I had to wait for a little over a month after I placed my order to get mine. If demand picks up a bunch, I wouldn't be surprised if they become backordered/unavailable or the price goes way up**
The idea would be for all the jerk offs on here and ebay to stop bending people over, and lower there prices to something reasonable. There's no reason calipers off of an 04 that need rebuilding should be priced at 1200 dollars, or 700 for a single front caliper. We need a market adjustment and power stop just gave us the tool to do so.


NO ONE SHOULD EVERY BUY BREMBOS THAT COST OVER 720$ FOR THE SET EVER AGAIN!
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I doubt that's going to happen. Look at what happened with the ATS calipers, they were cheap, then a bunch of people started buying them to retrofit on other cars, and now they're not cheap.

Edit: These Powerstops aren't a new thing either. They've been around for a few years, and are usually out of stock (rock auto especially.)

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The idea would be for all the jerk offs on here and ebay to stop bending people over, and lower there prices to something reasonable. There's no reason calipers off of an 04 that need rebuilding should be priced at 1200 dollars, or 700 for a single front caliper. We need a market adjustment and power stop just gave us the tool to do so.

NO ONE SHOULD EVERY BUY BREMBOS THAT COST OVER 720$ FOR THE SET EVER AGAIN!
You live in a fantasy world.
Let me guess . . you bought a set of standard 4-pot brembos off e-bay and got stuck with crap because you didn't do any research on the seller before you bought them.

Now you are on a crusade to find the cheapest possible price for a set of standard 4-pot / 2-pot brembos and tell everyone they are getting screwed if they pay anything more than you paid for something you don't even know works correctly, in either the short-term or long-term.

And you don't even know what you are talking about since the 2004 / 2005 STis came with the larger Big Gold Brembos which were a significant brake upgrade over the standard 4-pots that came on later year STis / WRXs and the JDM versions.

I'm not saying the rebuilds are junk, I'm just saying you are making ridiculous statements to make yourself feel better over your latest purchase.

Do people get screwed sometimes? Yes, it happens due to shady / lying scumbags. It's part of the world we live in and it's quite possibly never going to change.

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Old 07-17-2020, 01:53 PM   #15
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You live in a fantasy world.
Let me guess . . you bought a set of standard 4-pot brembos off e-bay and got stuck with crap because you didn't do any research on the seller before you bought them.

Now you are on a crusade to find the cheapest possible price for a set of standard 4-pot / 2-pot brembos and tell everyone they are getting screwed if they pay anything more than you paid for something you don't even know works correctly, in either the short-term or long-term.

And you don't even know what you are talking about since the 2004 / 2005 STis came with the larger Big Gold Brembos which were a significant brake upgrade over the standard 4-pots that came on later year STis / WRXs and the JDM versions.

I'm not saying the rebuilds are junk, I'm just saying you are making ridiculous statements to make yourself feel better over your latest purchase.

Do people get screwed sometimes? Yes, it happens due to shady / lying scumbags. It's part of the world we live in and it's quite possibly never going to change.

Why are you so Salty? Do you have a problem with other people not getting ripped off? More likely, are you one of the people trying to sell calipers on eBay?

Powerstop is a very reputable company, as is rock auto. If they have an issue, you can get a refund or a new part. There is little to no risk involved with these.

I am very well aware of the different calipers on different model years. I have done my research and found these to be the best option, which I wanted to share with others who are not fond of getting ripped off. Why are you so anti powerstop?

And let me inform you on your guess. Your scenario is pure imagination. But I guess every forum needs that one guy to try and act like they know everything, and chime in with completely irrelevant points while profiling peole with no prior knowledge of their experience or means. Pound sand bud!
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You live in a fantasy world.
Let me guess . . you bought a set of standard 4-pot brembos off e-bay and got stuck with crap because you didn't do any research on the seller before you bought them.

Now you are on a crusade to find the cheapest possible price for a set of standard 4-pot / 2-pot brembos and tell everyone they are getting screwed if they pay anything more than you paid for something you don't even know works correctly, in either the short-term or long-term.

And you don't even know what you are talking about since the 2004 / 2005 STis came with the larger Big Gold Brembos which were a significant brake upgrade over the standard 4-pots that came on later year STis / WRXs and the JDM versions.

I'm not saying the rebuilds are junk, I'm just saying you are making ridiculous statements to make yourself feel better over your latest purchase.

Do people get screwed sometimes? Yes, it happens due to shady / lying scumbags. It's part of the world we live in and it's quite possibly never going to change.
Why. Why do threads turn like this? I thought most NASIOC OGs are too old for **** like this. Where was the necessity to assume someone's experience? Let's just get back on topic if possible.
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https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=2921180

Samuri Jack is trying to sell a used set of gold brembo fronts for 800$... This thread is pretty detrimental for his sale I guess.
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Why. Why do threads turn like this? I thought most NASIOC OGs are too old for **** like this. Where was the necessity to assume someone's experience? Let's just get back on topic if possible.
I would normally agree with you, but looks like OP here decided to troll Jack's FS thread 5 days ago, so I can't say I blame him. Not sure why he's clutching his pearls asking why Jack is "salty."

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OP, don't bitch about prices, things cost money. If you can find something similar cheaper, buy it and move along.

Yes Powerstop is a known company, but these are still remanufactured calipers that are only as good as the core they're made from. Stripped threads, and leaks are very much still possible. (and yes Jack, these are Brembo calipers not FHIs)
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OP, don't bitch about prices, things cost money. If you can find something similar cheaper, buy it and move along.

Yes Powerstop is a known company, but these are still remanufactured calipers that are only as good as the core they're made from. Stripped threads, and leaks are very much still possible. (and yes Jack, these are Brembo calipers not FHIs)
Read the OP, threads are perfect and appear to be helicoiled. If there is a problem with them, I can call either powers top or rock auto and get a replacement caliper. I'd trust there customer service over Samuri Jack's or anyone like him.

Yes things cost money, however if I can help a greater community not get ripped off, I'd like to do that. Do you have anything constructive to add to this post, or do you just want to
play adjudicator?

Regardless, to whomever it may concern... Kindly keep your mouths closed unless you have anything constructive to add, or have first hand experience with powerstop rebuilds. You provide nothing to help our community, no matter how important you think your opinion is.
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You should take your own advice.

You don't seem to have any issue sticking your nose / mouth into other's threads with zero constructive criticism just to further your own personal crusade.

Telling everyone they have no business making any comments about Power Stop rebuilds unless they only support your own one-sided statements says a lot about you.
The fact that you responded to T-37 the way you did, and to essentially everyone else here, shows that both he and I scored a direct hit.

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This thread got weird all of a sudden

Good cheap option - I know which I'd prefer to buy which would be the cheaper power stop version rather than a used more expensive non refurbished set
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You should take your own advice.

You don't seem to have any issue sticking your nose / mouth into other's threads with zero constructive criticism just to further your own personal crusade.

Telling everyone they have no business making any comments about Power Stop rebuilds unless they only support your own one-sided statements says a lot about you.
The fact that you responded to T-37 the way you did, and to essentially everyone else here, shows that both he and I scored a direct hit.
Direct hit

You are trying to sell 16 year old calipers for just shy of msrp of a new caliper!? Then, when someone provides direct evidence that you are trying to rip people off, you fabricate a completely imaginary tale acting like I'm on a crusade to get back at all the people selling brembos.

I am very open to constructive criticism, however, I know the difference between that and a petty attempt to justify one's shady actions. The reason I come back at you is because I, along with many others are tired of pricks like you.

You were exposed, and now you are bitter that other people are being told about a cheaper and better alternative. So what do you do? You come onto the thread that is here to help the greater community, try to discredit it, fail, attack the OP, fail again, and then claim that you "scored a hit" because I defended my point of view?

I assure you, if you would like to get into a battle of character, I am more than happy to do so. We can discuss why a grown man feels the need to post on an internet forum everyday for the past 18 years and what that says about his fulfillment in real life, or lack there of. But I'm not looking to do that, I would like to provide good info for the subie community about brake calipers at a reasonable price.

So if you have any direct evidence of powerstop brembos not performing as advertised, I would love to hear it and welcome it with open arms. But if you just wanna get in a pissing match, my DM inbox is wide open and is eagerly anticipating the arrival of your arguments.
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Direct hit

You are trying to sell 16 year old calipers for just shy of msrp of a new caliper!? Then, when someone provides direct evidence that you are trying to rip people off, you fabricate a completely imaginary tale acting like I'm on a crusade to get back at all the people selling brembos.

I am very open to constructive criticism, however, I know the difference between that and a petty attempt to justify one's shady actions. The reason I come back at you is because I, along with many others are tired of pricks like you.

You were exposed, and now you are bitter that other people are being told about a cheaper and better alternative. So what do you do? You come onto the thread that is here to help the greater community, try to discredit it, fail, attack the OP, fail again, and then claim that you "scored a hit" because I defended my point of view?

I assure you, if you would like to get into a battle of character, I am more than happy to do so. We can discuss why a grown man feels the need to post on an internet forum everyday for the past 18 years and what that says about his fulfillment in real life, or lack there of. But I'm not looking to do that, I would like to provide good info for the subie community about brake calipers at a reasonable price.

So if you have any direct evidence of powerstop brembos not performing as advertised, I would love to hear it and welcome it with open arms. But if you just wanna get in a pissing match, my DM inbox is wide open and is eagerly anticipating the arrival of your arguments.
Again, as I sad earlier, you have zero clue to what you are talking about.

I am not selling 16 year old calipers and you are hawking something you don't even own, let alone have any experience with.

1. The BIG GOLD Brembos I have for sale are not the same as these standard 4-pot rebuilds you are hawking.

2. My BIG GOLD Brembos are less than 4 years old with low mileage.

You took it upon yourself to invade my for sale ad just to hawk these rebuilds that you personally know nothing about. And you think it's funny that you did so.

You provided no direct evidence of anything.
- Have you seen my BIG GOLD Brembos? No, you have not.
- Can you prove mine are 16 years old as you claim? No, you can not.
- Evidence? What evidence?

Now, you don't think it's funny that I and others come here to point out that rebuilds are just that, rebuilds, and there are considerations to contemplate before purchasing any company's rebuilds.

No where did we say that the particular rebuilds w/the Power Stop name on them are either good or bad.

You took that upon yourself.

You aren't here to help the community, you are here to help yourself.
You aren't defending yourself, you are attacking people who are pointing out that all rebuilds are not the greatest thing on earth.
You are telling people who do not see your point of view to " keep your mouths closed unless you have anything constructive to add, or have first hand experience with powerstop rebuilds. "

You don't have any experience with these rebuilds you are hawking.

I don't care if anyone buys rebuilds over new. That is their personal choice.
What I do care about is little pricks ( your choice of words so I am using language you understand ) like you telling outright lies just to further your own personal agendas.

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Dude, if you wanna fight, bring it to my DM... You can tell me all about how much I don't know.
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Is there any actual info anywhere about these magical "BIG GOLD" brembos, besides just saying that they are BIG and also GOLD? Are there any "SMALL GOLD" brembos? What about "BIG RED" or "MEDIUM BLUE"?
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