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09-08-2016, 02:24 PM | #26 |
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Buying a used Leaf makes great sense, actually.
3 year old originally $36,000 car for $12,000, with remaining factory and battery warranty, no maintenance.
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09-08-2016, 02:26 PM | #27 | |
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09-08-2016, 02:27 PM | #28 |
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I agree that makes a lot more sense. JGard was talking about a bunch of cars that haven't been out for 3 years so new would be the only option. With the incentives that manufacturers are offering, the speed of tech changes, and having never owned an electric before, I think leasing makes more sense for new vehicles.
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09-08-2016, 02:48 PM | #29 |
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I want an electric car as a third vehicle. May end up getting a Tesla if they drop the whiz-bang **** and just make a useful well thought out product with a little bit of Honda style design ingenuity thrown in. I don't need a door that closes or opens by itself, and I prefer to have an actual door handle on my car.
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09-08-2016, 02:48 PM | #30 | |
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09-08-2016, 02:52 PM | #31 |
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Just like people who buy pick-up trucks to haul a couple bags of mulch every spring when it makes more sense to buy a car and rent a truck when you need it. That's not a viable solution for most people for whatever reason.
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09-08-2016, 02:52 PM | #32 |
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09-08-2016, 03:10 PM | #33 | |
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How about 87%?
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09-08-2016, 03:13 PM | #34 | |
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I saw one at Carmax that was only a couple years old with less than 20k miles on it and they only wanted $12k for it. Definitely not a car you buy new. |
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09-08-2016, 03:17 PM | #35 |
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Couple of years ago you got something like 16k cash back in rebates and tax subsidies.
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09-08-2016, 03:29 PM | #36 |
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My household has had a LEAF (leased, returned) and now a RAV4 EV. We like 'em. I also like my Land Cruiser. Different tools for different uses.
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09-08-2016, 03:35 PM | #37 |
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you forgot the i8
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09-08-2016, 03:43 PM | #38 |
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$7.5k Federal. Cali has $2.5k for 36+ month leases and purchases. Other states have varying incentives. Colorado has a $5k rebate good for new and used-but-not-registered-in-CO-before EVs. This is great except it used to be $6k until this year.
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09-08-2016, 03:43 PM | #39 |
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i8 isn't an EV, so I left it off on purpose
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09-08-2016, 03:56 PM | #40 |
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Actually, it's a very viable solution. They want a truck, and that's perfectly fine. Just don't let them kid you that they need a truck.
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09-08-2016, 04:10 PM | #41 |
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You also have to have the tax liability to make use of all those credits.
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09-08-2016, 04:20 PM | #42 |
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Well yeah it's viable as in doable...but not viable in the sense that people actually DO it. Lots and lots of sparkly clean truck beds rolling around out there.
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09-08-2016, 04:51 PM | #43 | |
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09-08-2016, 05:36 PM | #44 |
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Bah, buying a lightly used Leaf S for $10k is the way to go. Nice examples in excellent condition with 10-20k miles can be had for this much or even less. SV or SL for a couple grand more.
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09-08-2016, 05:39 PM | #45 |
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Yup, even if you have to repair the battery pack in a few years you're looking at around $2,000 (repair / replace individual cells) Still ahead of a gasser.
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09-08-2016, 05:41 PM | #46 |
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09-08-2016, 05:41 PM | #47 |
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You won't have to replace the battery in a few years - they're extremely reliable. Just make sure you have 12 bars when you buy it and there's several years of battery warranty left. Way better than a gasser and I'd argue the best car purchase going for cost of ownership, reliability, etc.
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09-08-2016, 05:42 PM | #48 |
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Yeah, I've driven one. It was fun to drive. But then I got back into my '11 X5 and was immediately like "holy crap this is so much nicer". Those seats are very meh and the design is just a little out there.
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09-08-2016, 05:44 PM | #49 | |
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09-08-2016, 05:45 PM | #50 |
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The rear seats in the LEAF were surprisingly awesome for a rear facing baby seat, something about how they are angled.
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