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Old 11-17-2020, 08:50 PM   #51
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My neighbor said they looked like big bull nostrils! He asked where the ring goes. LoL




looks awesome man! as someone who just did full tgv deletes today, that looks like an even bigger pain in the d$%k and i have to say that you are way more ambitious than i am lol



i cant wait to see what numbers you get.
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I am as excited as the next guy but just so we get a clear understandings of the gains, what else if anything has been changed/added to the setup since last tune and dyno numbers?
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Old 11-18-2020, 03:31 PM   #53
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I am as excited as the next guy but just so we get a clear understandings of the gains, what else if anything has been changed/added to the setup since last tune and dyno numbers?
To do the IBR Modular Manifold I had to change the Killer B TMIC/CP for an ETS 3.5" FMIC, I had to take out the P&L upper and lower port matched TGV deletes and I replaced the GFB BPV for a QR BPV. Though I do not think it makes a difference I also replaced the stock turbo inlet for a FP Turbo Inlet.

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SteamSpeed STX-71 (They get a bad wrap but my turbo has worked flawless after the gen2 porting and going to external wastegates)
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ETS 3.5" Intake and heat shield.

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SIDE note FP intake inlet should up as I was typing this so. Hopefully I can get it installed tonight....
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:56 PM   #54
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To do the IBR Modular Manifold I had to change the Killer B TMIC/CP for an ETS 3.5" FMIC, I had to take out the P&L upper and lower port matched TGV deletes and I replaced the GFB BPV for a QR BPV. Though I do not think it makes a difference I also replaced the stock turbo inlet for a FP Turbo Inlet.

Previous Mods that did not change
SteamSpeed STX-71 (They get a bad wrap but my turbo has worked flawless after the gen2 porting and going to external wastegates)
Killer B EXT wastegate header with Tial 38mm Gates
ETS 3" turbo back with stock mufflers and 3" boost dump at the y-pipe near the mufflers. (its only as loud as it has it has to be lol)
ETS 3.5" Intake and heat shield.

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SIDE note FP intake inlet should up as I was typing this so. Hopefully I can get it installed tonight....
Thanks. Same tuner?

It would be best, if possible, to do a pull with current map on this setup (assuming tuner says is ok). Then recalibrate then dyno again. So to show exact delta gains.
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Old 11-18-2020, 05:46 PM   #55
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Thanks. Same tuner?

It would be best, if possible, to do a pull with current map on this setup (assuming tuner says is ok). Then recalibrate then dyno again. So to show exact delta gains.
Yeah I’m probably going to use the same tuner for etune, thats what I did before. Same stretch of road same direction. Big diff is the time of year, Nov vs Sept. so weather is a little cooler. NE FL

I still have all my logs and virtual dyno from the current tune with all the previous parts.

As long as I can get my lean condition sorted with out a tune, I will do a run with the current tune and compare.

Then we will start the new etune process.

Not as scientific as a dyno... but pretty damn close for a DIYer.
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Old 11-18-2020, 06:30 PM   #56
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Yeah I’m probably going to use the same tuner for etune, thats what I did before. Same stretch of road same direction. Big diff is the time of year, Nov vs Sept. so weather is a little cooler. NE FL

I still have all my logs and virtual dyno from the current tune with all the previous parts.

As long as I can get my lean condition sorted with out a tune, I will do a run with the current tune and compare.

Then we will start the new etune process.

Not as scientific as a dyno... but pretty damn close for a DIYer.
I agree and I believe based on my experiments and datalogs that its both accurate and precise. I get consistent plots over each other with less than 5whp delta on avg. Same conditions though of course, just like you said, same road same direction. My car starts pulling timing at 104F+ air intake (not manifold) so as long as IATs are 103F below car plots consistently within 5whp max.

Big thumbs up to VD.
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Old 11-19-2020, 11:22 AM   #57
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I agree and I believe based on my experiments and datalogs that its both accurate and precise. I get consistent plots over each other with less than 5whp delta on avg. Same conditions though of course, just like you said, same road same direction. My car starts pulling timing at 104F+ air intake (not manifold) so as long as IATs are 103F below car plots consistently within 5whp max.

Big thumbs up to VD.
I'm not much of a VD fan, yet I do agree, if you just use it as simple measurement tool (the actual HP might be turds to reality, yet the fact that the value stays pretty constant on several pulls is great)..

Here is where you need to use and understand what weather, temp, wind, baro pressure, elevation, tires and air pressure and weight in vehicle will do when compared to each run.. if all is pretty much the same (same day, same road..... (going in the same direction, as there might be a slight incline or decline our butt dyno can't detect, which would play havoc on one pull being greater that another based on downhill vs uphill, even if its slight and not visually noticeable.)

I remember doing a run with VD for the fun of it with a slight up hill, I netted in VD over 120 WHP on the same stretch one way vs the other way!! it was pretty ridiculous, as the incline was not very noticeable.. good luck and thanks for those vids! who knows this might be something to play with once I'm done playing with Fords and I get a FA24DIT for the rex (I feel bad, she is just gathering dust in the garage and her trunk is being used as storage for Ford parts)
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Old 11-24-2020, 08:30 AM   #58
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Quick update...

I got my turbo inlet leak resolved. Unfortunately, I’m still waiting on a response from a couple of different etuners. Holidays, but I get it.

Car can not do a pull on the existing tune... This intake BREATHs big time and any time I get into a little bit of boost the ECU freaks out and goes straight to 10.14 AFR.

The intake sound is a amazing just under normal driving conditions or at idle... sound like a vacuum cleaner with huge metal pipes.

I’ll keep y’all posted if I get an etuner to respond.
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Old 11-24-2020, 09:08 AM   #59
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Quick update...

I got my turbo inlet leak resolved. Unfortunately, I’m still waiting on a response from a couple of different etuners. Holidays, but I get it.

Car can not do a pull on the existing tune... This intake BREATHs big time and any time I get into a little bit of boost the ECU freaks out and goes straight to 10.14 AFR.

The intake sound is a amazing just under normal driving conditions or at idle... sound like a vacuum cleaner with huge metal pipes.

I’ll keep y’all posted if I get an etuner to respond.
Have you inquired with Clark Turner Tuning? He did my flex tune and car runs great. He also responds to FB messages as well. http://clarkturnertuning.com
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Have you inquired with Clark Turner Tuning? He did my flex tune and car runs great. He also responds to FB messages as well. http://clarkturnertuning.com
Clark is a great tuner, and very responsive, I'd def. recommend him as well ( he has done a few tunes for me in the past and they were great ) Best of luck
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Old 11-24-2020, 11:16 PM   #61
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I saw a FB post on IBRs website. A WRX on 91 octane, EBCS, CAI, FMIC and the modular manifold put down 320 whp and 297 torque!
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I saw a FB post on IBRs website. A WRX on 91 octane, EBCS, CAI, FMIC and the modular manifold put down 320 whp and 297 torque!
So no J-pipe, or catback exhaust mods? I know I hit that on 93 with a tune and a Jpipe like 5 years ago.. at a fraction of the cost... what does a car with those mods and just a regular TGV Deletes crank out? I'd say prob. about the same minus 1200 bucks
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Old 11-25-2020, 01:46 PM   #63
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So no J-pipe, or catback exhaust mods? I know I hit that on 93 with a tune and a Jpipe like 5 years ago.. at a fraction of the cost... what does a car with those mods and just a regular TGV Deletes crank out? I'd say prob. about the same minus 1200 bucks
Yep.

I'm thinking the value in this intake manifold will really be on a FBO + turbo upgraded build that can make use of the port injection. Which means control of said injectors has to be established. This is definitely not an "affordable" mod for beginners or people who want basic set ups for Daily driving.
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Yep.

I'm thinking the value in this intake manifold will really be on a FBO + turbo upgraded build that can make use of the port injection. Which means control of said injectors has to be established. This is definitely not an "affordable" mod for beginners or people who want basic set ups for Daily driving.
LoL well said
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yeah hence I think that car they have on FB .. only if they plan on a built block and full racecar later does it make any remote sense... well we do have.. because race car and mine is prettier than yours... cases.. oh well to each his/her own.. ;-)... I'm deff. done modding mine for a bit (famous last words)!! cheers and best of luck
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yeah hence I think that car they have on FB .. only if they plan on a built block and full racecar later does it make any remote sense... well we do have.. because race car and mine is prettier than yours... cases.. oh well to each his/her own.. ;-)... I'm deff. done modding mine for a bit (famous last words)!! cheers and best of luck
Yea i have noticed a bit of "flexxing" at some meets where people are proud of spending more mula than others... i dont understand it. If it makes them faster, great. If it doesn't, maybe it atleast makes them look cool?

With the cost and know-how that this intake manifold needs, i would generally assume anyone who has it is pushing it. If no... RIP that guys wallet for simply flexxxing on the poors
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Yea i have noticed a bit of "flexxing" at some meets where people are proud of spending more mula than others... i dont understand it. If it makes them faster, great. If it doesn't, maybe it atleast makes them look cool?

With the cost and know-how that this intake manifold needs, i would generally assume anyone who has it is pushing it. If no... RIP that guys wallet for simply flexxxing on the poors
I’ve never been to a Subaru meet but I do like going the track! Mostly road courses and have done a few runway runs... my goal is to make a hellcat cry lol.

Btw found a tuner and are currently working through the process. I’ll keep y’all posted.
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I’ve never been to a Subaru meet but I do like going the track! Mostly road courses and have done a few runway runs... my goal is to make a hellcat cry lol.

Btw found a tuner and are currently working through the process. I’ll keep y’all posted.
Etune i assume? Hope all goes well
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I’ve never been to a Subaru meet but I do like going the track! Mostly road courses and have done a few runway runs... my goal is to make a hellcat cry lol.

Btw found a tuner and are currently working through the process. I’ll keep y’all posted.
I think we should be able to pull that off until top end 120+
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I think we should be able to pull that off until top end 120+
LoL the runway and the front straight at the tracks/runway I’ve frequented are only a usable half mile long so they have to either turn or stop before then. LoL
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Etune i assume? Hope all goes well
Yes etune. It’s going fine but slow. My damn day job keeps getting in the way of play time.
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Yes etune. It’s going fine but slow. My damn day job keeps getting in the way of play time.
Anywhere on the way to or back from work to do your logs? Out here in South Dakota we are fortunate to have many flat non heavily traveled roads to do etunes. And I had a perfect section of road to do all my logs on my way to or back home from work so it made the process a cinch.

I know we are all curious on how the car will feel when your tune is complete. Hopefully one day you can get in a dyno to see the differences
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Anywhere on the way to or back from work to do your logs? Out here in South Dakota we are fortunate to have many flat non heavily traveled roads to do etunes. And I had a perfect section of road to do all my logs on my way to or back home from work so it made the process a cinch.

I know we are all curious on how the car will feel when your tune is complete. Hopefully one day you can get in a dyno to see the differences
I do all the logging on the same stretch of road in the same direction. When I’m done I will post results.

I plan to do a dyno tune in January as well. I’ll prolly do some videos then.
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so an here's an update. I have been working with two different etuners and chasing mechanical issues, not related to the intake. The results with the first etuner were pretty disappointing but I can't totally blame the etuner because again, mechanical issues. The second etuner helped me run down some of the issues but i ran out of time before dyno day to. Yup dyno day is tomorrow. I have it a shop now getting sorted before it gets put on the dyno. Here's to hoping it's all sorted by tomorrow, lol.
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