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10-17-2020, 06:34 PM | #951 |
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10-17-2020, 07:30 PM | #952 |
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Thanks. They show up in Chrome, but not Firefox, on my Linux machine.
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10-24-2020, 12:33 PM | #953 |
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Still trying to work out how everything is spooling at the exact same time
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10-25-2020, 04:34 AM | #954 |
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I'm guessing the reason for the comparable spool is because the VF is on pump and the other turbos are e85. Now the 35 spooling at the same time as the 30 must just be some sort of magic. Lol.
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11-01-2020, 10:07 PM | #955 |
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Were all three of those pulls done in the same gear?
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11-02-2020, 07:42 AM | #956 |
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11-02-2020, 09:42 AM | #957 |
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Some pics of the upcoming V2 adapter. Makes install a lot easier.
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12-04-2020, 02:51 PM | #958 |
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Any update on G series spoolinator? I may have missed it somewhere, my apologies if I did
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12-04-2020, 03:44 PM | #959 |
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12-04-2020, 05:03 PM | #960 |
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12-04-2020, 05:40 PM | #961 | |
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On a side note, the recent testing shows the Gen 2 GTX turbos still perform exceptionally well, and why I really think the 3576 is THE best matched 'street' turbo for these engines... Keep in mind our MD500SE reads very low, even for a Mustang. This would be well over 500whp on a DynoJet. |
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12-04-2020, 07:50 PM | #962 | |
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Makes sense, thank you. I just bought some coated holy headers without an EWG bung and I was curious if I decided to go for the EWG upgrade service to be able to run the spoolinator with an ewg, would you guys have to completely strip the up pipe coating in order to weld, or just grind off enough to weld on the bung, leaving the majority of the coating? Last edited by K3rm1tth3fr0g; 12-04-2020 at 08:00 PM. |
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12-05-2020, 09:34 AM | #963 | |
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12-05-2020, 10:03 AM | #964 | |
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How would I go about getting a new coated EWG up pipe without sending mine in? I don't see anywhere to buy just the v band up pipe online Would I be able to ship you my up pipe (hasn't been used yet), and send yall some money and have you guys just do a trade? If not I understand but I'm thinking that may be easiest way. I already have the wastegate, just had my tuner order the IWG version of the header without thinking. Last edited by K3rm1tth3fr0g; 12-05-2020 at 11:13 AM. |
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12-25-2020, 10:10 PM | #965 |
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Sharing results on my 3576 Gen 2 setup (and it's for sale!) https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=2931275
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12-26-2020, 01:10 AM | #966 | |
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01-06-2021, 05:30 PM | #967 |
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Would a 3576 be way too big for a 2.14L stroker setup aimed at a high red-line goal?
Aiming to spool before 4.5k. (Outfront motorsport closed deck 2.14 stroker shortblock w/ EJ207 Spec C big port heads) |
01-07-2021, 08:02 AM | #968 | |
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I would recommend picking a powerband range that's more reasonable, like 3,500 to 6,500, or 4,500 to 7,500, or with a high RPM stoker it might be 7,000 to 10,000 RPM. So you pick your rev range, and anything beyond that is gravy. In fact, if you do it well, the powerband WILL be bigger than 3,000 RPMs. In you build a high flowing 10,000 RPM engine and and surround it with components to support low RPM response, you will be very disappointed with your results. As an example, the most common of these errors is big cams, ported heads, etc. to support super high RPMs with a TMIC, medium sized turbo and small turbine A/R, in the hope of getting the 'best of both worlds'. The 3576 will support that rev range on that displacement, but I would recommend the largest sized turbine. It won't be as unresponsive as you think, the big turbine actually give is somewhat of an N/A feel, but the spool/power won't come on until you're deeper into the revs. I don't want to speculate, because I don't know the details of your build, and there are many that will affect the results. |
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01-07-2021, 09:14 AM | #969 | |
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Well I picked up the turbo (was used for a great deal) before I actually have the built block so It's going to be sitting for a while while I decide if a hybrid or perhaps a destroked motor makes more sense. However I really like the ideal of a high revving 2.0 based stroker build but since I already have this turbo setup I want to go with an engine build that makes sense for the turbo I'll be running so I have that to consider when picking the rest of the parts. Do you think in a 2.1 stroker, if the powerband started around 4.5-5k, it would pull hard to 8.5K, or would the current .82 A/R choke it out above 8k? I only have the turbo purchased right now and want to plan my build accordingly, my tuner is just on vacation. Thanks! Last edited by K3rm1tth3fr0g; 01-07-2021 at 11:11 AM. |
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01-07-2021, 12:13 PM | #970 | |
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on a 2.1 my 3067 makes its power from 4000- 8000 and that is with a .82ar housing. I did buy a .63ar as well but the spool characteristics werent that different between the 2, but on the top end it did make another 20ish hp. |
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01-07-2021, 12:41 PM | #971 | |
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Yeah that makes sense, I am committed to a power band that is high in the rev range, say 5000/5500-9000. So you think replacing the .82 housing with a larger AR for that rev range would be beneficial to not lose power at higher RPM? (Obviously I will be discussing all of these finer points directly with my tuner, I just want some preliminary advice) .82 seems like a solid compromise between spooling relatively fast for its size and displacement (4.5-5k), and not choking out up top like a .63 seems like it would. And based on what you said about your stroker setup, doesn't that indicate I should stick with a .82 A/R if I want to rev past 8K and spool isnt really an issue? Just clarifying. Thanks for explaining everyone! Last edited by K3rm1tth3fr0g; 01-07-2021 at 01:20 PM. |
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01-07-2021, 06:18 PM | #972 | |
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01-07-2021, 07:18 PM | #973 | |
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But yeah I definitely get your point that high revving setups are less driveable. |
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01-08-2021, 09:58 AM | #974 |
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You could get away with having a stock crank precision balanced. The power isn't a problem, but at that RPM balance has far more influence. Another benefit of the billet crank is the improved oiling it offers. At those RPMs the load on the rod bearings will be significantly lower, but the other side of the coil is that you can build heat faster, and more of it. There are few instances of issues with aftermarket cranks as they are generally a HUGE step up from OEM in regards to the benefits. Not that the OEM cranks are weak, but there is more to a crankshaft than just pure strength capability.
Many have gone the small displacement route. There certainly are advantages and disadvantages, just like with anything. From a mechanical standpoint, one of the benefits is a significant reduction in force applied to the rod bearings; a very well known weakness of these engines, but you are moving additional stresses to other areas of the engine at those RPMs. |
01-11-2021, 10:28 AM | #975 | |
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I'll have to do a lot more research before I settle on a final motor configuration. |
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