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Old 04-22-2019, 12:27 PM   #1
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Default Scan Tools Needed for TPMS Relearn/Reset 2019 WRX

Since I got my 19' in Jan, I had to hurry up and get a snow tire package for it, and didn't do a lot of research into TPMS, specifically buying TPMS sensors that could be cloned with the factory sensors IDs.

So now that it's consistently above 50°F here I threw the factory tires back on and mr annoying tire pressure light is on.

I've been trying to search to find out what tool/scanner I need to scan the factory tires to get the IDs (I don't see them listed on statement of work from TireRack), and so far It appears I need this tool from ATEQ to get the IDS:

https://www.amazon.com/ATEQ-VT31-Res...RXBZDEW1DE8BFG

Then I will need the Quicket Tool:

https://www.amazon.com/ATEQ-QuickSet.../dp/B008SCWXN4



Or can I buy one of these Autel units to do that above in an all in one unit?

https://www.amazon.com/Autel-TS501-A...12-spons&psc=1
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:26 PM   #2
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Since I got my 19' in Jan, I had to hurry up and get a snow tire package for it, and didn't do a lot of research into TPMS, specifically buying TPMS sensors that could be cloned with the factory sensors IDs.

So now that it's consistently above 50°F here I threw the factory tires back on and mr annoying tire pressure light is on.

I've been trying to search to find out what tool/scanner I need to scan the factory tires to get the IDs (I don't see them listed on statement of work from TireRack), and so far It appears I need this tool from ATEQ to get the IDS:

https://www.amazon.com/ATEQ-VT31-Res...RXBZDEW1DE8BFG

Then I will need the Quicket Tool:

https://www.amazon.com/ATEQ-QuickSet.../dp/B008SCWXN4



Or can I buy one of these Autel units to do that above in an all in one unit?

https://www.amazon.com/Autel-TS501-A...12-spons&psc=1
I bought the QuickSet tool without thorough research. While I have that tool, the info for 2019 WRX is not yet published through ATEQ as a firmware update. ATEQ are not saying when the update will be available. So right now the ATEQ QuickSet tool is useless to me.

Let me know if you find a way to get it working.
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:04 PM   #3
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Since I got my 19' in Jan, I had to hurry up and get a snow tire package for it, and didn't do a lot of research into TPMS, specifically buying TPMS sensors that could be cloned with the factory sensors IDs.

So now that it's consistently above 50°F here I threw the factory tires back on and mr annoying tire pressure light is on.

I've been trying to search to find out what tool/scanner I need to scan the factory tires to get the IDs (I don't see them listed on statement of work from TireRack), and so far It appears I need this tool from ATEQ to get the IDS:

https://www.amazon.com/ATEQ-VT31-Res...RXBZDEW1DE8BFG

Then I will need the Quicket Tool:

https://www.amazon.com/ATEQ-QuickSet.../dp/B008SCWXN4



Or can I buy one of these Autel units to do that above in an all in one unit?

https://www.amazon.com/Autel-TS501-A...12-spons&psc=1
Unless things has changed in the past 2 months, do take note that the Autel unit can only clone/program Autel sensors.

If you need a Scanner/Activator and a programmer, you can get the ATEQ VT36 (https://www.ateq-tpms.com/en-us/prod...gramming-tool/) on Amazon for a little over $200.00.

If you want a Scanner/Activator that can program and hard code via OBDII, you will need to step up and get the VT56 (https://www.ateq-tpms.com/en-us/prod...t56-tpms-tool/) which you can also find on Amazon but for a lot more money, IIRC.

The Quickset is just a hard code unit via OBDII that allows you to switch between two different sets of TPMS. However, you will still need a scanner/activator like the VT31 to initiate the whole process for the first time by reading the sensor codes and waking them up so the ECU can detect them.

Basically, VT56 is VT36 plus Quickset and more.

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Old 04-22-2019, 04:07 PM   #4
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I bought the QuickSet tool without thorough research. While I have that tool, the info for 2019 WRX is not yet published through ATEQ as a firmware update. ATEQ are not saying when the update will be available. So right now the ATEQ QuickSet tool is useless to me.

Let me know if you find a way to get it working.
You might want to re-check their website again and see. I got my VT36 unit about 2 months ago and the 2019 WRX/STI are already on it.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:00 PM   #5
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Unless things has changed in the past 2 months, do take note that the Autel unit can only clone/program Autel sensors.

If you need a Scanner/Activator and a programmer, you can get the ATEQ VT36 (https://www.ateq-tpms.com/en-us/prod...gramming-tool/) on Amazon for a little over $200.00.

If you want a Scanner/Activator that can program and hard code via OBDII, you will need to step up and get the VT56 (https://www.ateq-tpms.com/en-us/prod...t56-tpms-tool/) which you can also find on Amazon but for a lot more money, IIRC.

The Quickset is just a hard code unit via OBDII that allows you to switch between two different sets of TPMS. However, you will still need a scanner/activator like the VT31 to initiate the whole process for the first time by reading the sensor codes and waking them up so the ECU can detect them.

Basically, VT56 is VT36 plus Quickset and more.
Yeah I need a scanner/activator to grab the IDs of the OEM sensors since I never asked Tirerack to record them when they installed my winters.

So it sounds like I can use the VT36 to scan the OEM sensors to get the IDs, and then use it to program/relearn the car to read those?
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:05 PM   #6
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Just throwing this out there. Discount Tire can clone sensors for ya if buying your own equipment is too much hassle.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:58 AM   #7
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Yeah I need a scanner/activator to grab the IDs of the OEM sensors since I never asked Tirerack to record them when they installed my winters.

So it sounds like I can use the VT36 to scan the OEM sensors to get the IDs, and then use it to program/relearn the car to read those?
Yes, the VT36 can do both reading/activation and program/clone but it can not hard code into the ECU like the VT56 or the Quickset since it can only program/clone the sensors and can not change the TPMS codes stored in the car's ECU.



Let's go back to the beginning so I have a better understanding of your situation. There is something about your situation that I am not cleared on.

You have two sets of wheels/tires, summer and winter. You bought the winter set from TireRack with aftermarket TPMS sensors installed and has been using it this past winter. And now you are switching to your summer set, which is your stock wheels/tires/OEM TPMS sensors and it is triggering the TPMS light. This part does not make sense to me because unless the sensors on your winter set are already clones of your stock/summer set, it should be the winter set that triggers your warning light and not the other way around. Or did someone changed the codes in the ECU for you to the winter set TPMS ?

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Old 04-23-2019, 01:42 AM   #8
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Just throwing this out there. Discount Tire can clone sensors for ya if buying your own equipment is too much hassle.
Not necessarily true. It depends on the individual shop and also the type of sensors OP got from TR. The local DT shops near me uses VT36 or VT36 like device, which can only program/clone but not hard code the ECU directly. Also, the process is done wirelessly and automatically, you can not physically input the codes digit by digit which means you will have to have both sets present for this to happen. Which is why I decided to bite the bullet and buy the VT36 because I am too lazy to carry another set to my local DT to have them scanned and cloned, plus, IMO, it is kind of cool toy to have in the garage.

Discount Tires can do it but it also depends on the type of sensors TR used and the type of TPMS scanner/programmer device his local shop has and uses.
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:03 AM   #9
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You have two sets of wheels/tires, summer and winter. You bought the winter set from TireRack with aftermarket TPMS sensors installed and has been using it this past winter. And now you are switching to your summer set, which is your stock wheels/tires/OEM TPMS sensors and it is triggering the TPMS light. This part does not make sense to me because unless the sensors on your winter set are already clones of your stock/summer set, it should be the winter set that triggers your warning light and not the other way around. Or did someone changed the codes in the ECU for you to the winter set TPMS ?
Tireack actually mounted the wheels/tires on the car for me. Their Warehouse/Dist/Headquarters is a 30 minute drive from me, and they have 5-6 bays to do install. I am not sure if they cloned the OE IDs to the Winter TPMS or hard coded the Winter TPMS to the ECU. I will call down there and ask them their standard procedure; Ie do they clone IDS or hard code, but I did see them with a scan tool at one point before they were finished with my car..
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:17 AM   #10
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Tireack actually mounted the wheels/tires on the car for me. Their Warehouse/Dist/Headquarters is a 30 minute drive from me, and they have 5-6 bays to do installs. I am not sure if they cloned the OE IDs to the Winter TPMS or hard coded the Winter TPMS to the ECU. I will call down there and ask them their standard procedure; Ie do they clone IDS or hard code, but I did see them with a scan tool at one point before they were finished with my car..
If that's the case, I would say that it is most likely they cloned your OEM sensors to your winter set already. In this situation, you may just need an activation tool to "wake" up the OEM sensors on your summer/OEM set with any TPMS scanner so your ECU can detect them, because TPMS turn themselves off after long periods of non-activity to conserve battery. Any tire shop can help you with this, maybe even auto parts stores like O'Reily's or Autozone. Good luck and keep us updated.
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:12 AM   #11
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^^ Will Do!
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Old 04-23-2019, 02:30 PM   #12
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You might want to re-check their website again and see. I got my VT36 unit about 2 months ago and the 2019 WRX/STI are already on it.
I do agree with your statement but I do not have a VT36. The Quickset tool firmware update only covers WRX up thru 2017. I have a WRX and not an STI.

My bright idea was to save the WRX summer tire sensor ID in the Quickset by downloading from the OBD port. I have the winter sensor numbers from Tire Rack on the invoice so I could just program those in from my PC and I could swap away. Doesn’t work when you cannot communicate with the car
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I do agree with your statement but I do not have a VT36. The Quickset tool firmware update only covers WRX up thru 2017. I have a WRX and not an STI.

My bright idea was to save the WRX summer tire sensor ID in the Quickset by downloading from the OBD port. I have the winter sensor numbers from Tire Rack on the invoice so I could just program those in from my PC and I could swap away. Doesn’t work when you cannot communicate with the car
I understand that. All I am trying to say is unless you checked their site recently, to check again and see if there is another update. Because obviously, the 2019 cars are in their database already, at least in their other devices. Another alternative is to contact their technical support department and see what they say. I did that before making my purchase and spoke with a technician and he was extremely helpful.
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Old 04-24-2019, 04:09 PM   #14
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Per TR they do a complete relearn of the new sensor IDs to the car. My friend has a nice Autel scan tool, but it doesn't scan/activate TPMS.
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Old 04-24-2019, 05:44 PM   #15
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Per TR they do a complete relearn of the new sensor IDs to the car. My friend has a nice Autel scan tool, but it doesn't scan/activate TPMS.
I am really surprise about this, especially when there are programmable sensors available these days. Well, in this case, you do need a tool that can access the ECU via OBDII port.

1) You will need at least the VT31 to scan the codes of both set of TPMS and activate them. And use the Quickset to program the ECU (Check with ATEQ's Tech support first, Chas2 had posted that their WRX database only goes up to 2017).

2) Buy the VT56 or equivalent tool that can do it all.

3) Buy 4 new programmable TPMS such as Schrader EZ sensor, then clone them to your winter set (Because that's what your ECU is coded to recognize now) then put them onto your summer set. I think you will still need an activator/trigger tool such as the VT06 every time you switch from one set to another.

4) Have a shop or dealership do the re-code for you whenever you do the switch. Since you are a TR customer, check with them and see if this is a covered service.

That's all I can think of now, maybe other members here will have more and better ideas that can help you.
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:09 AM   #16
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^ I should be good. I was just mainly looking for confirmation on what tool set I would need to get IDs, and then learn them to the ECU. I am going to see if the Autel TS508 will do this. Having one all in one will be nice..

It's also interesting that the WRX still uses the 315mhz sensors..
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Confirmed that the TS508 will do this . I was done with the whole job in about 5 minutes. Did a relearn, scanned each sensor, programmed to ECU, reset the DTCs, and light on dash no more
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Glad to see you work everything out. These TPMS tools are not cheap but with TPMS here to stay, will become a necessity even for novice home garage mechanics like me soon. And I think they are just kinda cool to have in the tool box too.
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:53 AM   #19
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How irritating was the TPMS light on the ‘19 WRX? I’m about to pull the trigger on aftermarket wheels but they don’t have the TPMS sensors. If it’s just a “dash light” I’m 100% fine with that but if it consistently beeps and/shows up on the digital display that’s a no-go for me. Thanks, I apologize for throwing this random question in here but I didn’t want to start a new thread and I can’t find the answer ANYWHERE for new models.
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Old 05-04-2019, 08:07 AM   #20
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It doesn't beep, but the light will show, and in the info part of the cluster there will be a yellow (i), as well as the info part telling you the TPMS is mad at you when starting up the car.
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Old 05-05-2019, 03:35 AM   #21
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Does the warning in the middle Info part go away after the car is started or does it stay on?
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The one area where it will tell you vehicle speed or you have a door open etc, only comes on when first starting the car. The little (i) stays on all the time as well as the low tire pressure light as well.
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Old 05-06-2019, 03:56 AM   #23
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Okay thanks thanks for the info, I think I can handle that!
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Old 10-24-2019, 09:15 AM   #24
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Confirmed that the TS508 will do this . I was done with the whole job in about 5 minutes. Did a relearn, scanned each sensor, programmed to ECU, reset the DTCs, and light on dash no more
Good to know. I'm considering one too. Don't really want to have to go to the tire shop twice a year just to get the TMPS reprogramed! Damn I wish I had got sensors that could be cloned to my factory wheels!
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Yeah you should go with VT36, it should fit your needs. That is also what I'm currently using.
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