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11-05-2020, 09:46 AM | #51 | |
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Yeah, I guess it might be a bit embarassing to admit that it could have anything in common - operationally from the driver's seat - with the transmissions in things like Camrys and minivans. Norm
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11-05-2020, 10:54 AM | #52 |
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yeah, camry's, minivans. . . .or you know, any of the other 99.9% of cars on the road today
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11-19-2020, 01:54 PM | #53 |
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Well once you remove the charcoal filter the throttle response isn't that bad
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11-23-2020, 07:42 PM | #54 |
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My Ascent and Legacy 3.6r have CVTs. The CVT work great. I wouldn't want one for my WRX obviously but Subarus do a great job.
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11-24-2020, 11:26 AM | #55 | |
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Even though the WRX is big enough for nearly all of our needs (and is a hoot to drive with much better throttle response than the LGT we had before it), I'm still kind of annoyed at Subaru for dropping the 6MT from the Legacy lineup. Norm |
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11-25-2020, 04:14 PM | #56 | ||
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Your obvious bias aside, a DCT has much more in common mechanically with a manual transmission than it does a traditional torque converted slushbox auto. Quote:
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11-25-2020, 06:18 PM | #57 |
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I never understood why people romanticize the DSG/DCT so much. It is nothing more than a quicker shifting automatic; besides the newest ZF units made them obsolete. This new 7 DSG is anemic in the D mode, it downright lags the engine. It is still clunky in D and S, and auto up shifts is the manual mode, lol. Not too mention the really expensive maintenance.
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11-25-2020, 06:47 PM | #58 | ||
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When you enjoy doing your own shifting, it doesn't matter what kind of automatic it is, be it any of the ancient fluid-coupling or torque-converter planetary gear types, a CVT, or any of today's DSGs with the capability to shift automatically. In a way, I'm sorry that you feel that letting a computer programmed with somebody else's preferences is a better way than doing the same thing for yourself. I wouldn't even care too much that you find that having your shifting done for you is a good thing, except that too many people who have felt the same way have been making it harder and harder to not get stuck with some automated 'box. Quote:
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11-25-2020, 07:11 PM | #60 |
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DSG/DCT is nothing more than another type of an AUTOMATIC transmission. There are different types of automatic transmissions, like EV single gear, CVT, DSG/DCT and your everyday torque converter type.
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11-25-2020, 10:23 PM | #61 |
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3 pedals is always the winner in my book. Don't care if it's 2x slower than a slushbox. If you perfer CVT / DSG / DCT then all power to you. I personally find no joy in driving a 2 pedal car but that's just me. I like the clutching / shifting. My other ride is a bike so yeah more shifting.
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11-26-2020, 08:51 AM | #62 | ||
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11-26-2020, 12:09 PM | #64 | |
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A DSG is basically "two" manual gearsets (odd/even) with a common output shaft and coupled to the engine by two hydraulic clutches. The only thing they have in common is both use a torque converter to uncouple the transmission from the engine when in gear but not moving. Subaru: VW: Last edited by Elbert Bass; 11-26-2020 at 12:13 PM. Reason: Add images |
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11-27-2020, 08:59 PM | #65 |
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11-28-2020, 08:55 AM | #66 | |
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Like just about everybody else here and elsewhere, you're forgetting all about the machine logic - whether electronic or hydraulic - that allows those and all other automatics to do their . . . . wait for it . . . automated shifting. Norm |
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11-28-2020, 10:01 AM | #67 | |
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11-30-2020, 02:08 PM | #68 |
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Compared to CVTs the zf 8 speed is clunky.
The 8 speed is super smooth as far as traditional autos goes but can’t comoare to my 8 year old 100k mile cvt. You don’t feel any clunks or jolts in the cvt when it shifts. Especially noticeable when accelerating uphill. |
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12-04-2020, 09:11 AM | #70 | |
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With a CVT you end up with road speed not bearing any resemblance to the engine revs, and that's always been a key indicator to me for both speed and when to shift. To lose that would make driving harder rather than easier. No thanks. Norm |
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12-04-2020, 09:49 AM | #71 |
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Subaru doesn’t recommend replacing fluid for 100,000 miles. You have to split the transmission to change the filter.
They are lighter, cheaper to manufacture and yield better mpg, hence the changeover. We’ve avoided Subaru CVT’s thus far but just bought a Prius v with one, as do two snowmobiles. |
12-04-2020, 11:21 AM | #72 | |
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CVTs also get used in F440/F500 formula cars as a spec-class rule requirement. You either like it that way, live with it, or find another class to race in. Norm |
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12-12-2020, 03:40 PM | #73 | |
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Our 2020 CVT Ascent is hauling a lot of weight pulling our trailer and boat. We've done a lot of pulling up hills too. My 2018 CVT Legacy 3.6R shifts better than my older auto Forester. The torque feels great and the paddle shifts feel also pretty good too. Highway cruising is great on the legacy. Are CVT's good for racing? Of course not, but it has its value and subarus CVT are pretty efficient. I actually think the subaru CVT's are underrated. |
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12-12-2020, 06:34 PM | #74 |
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I wonder if OP was really wondering about CVTs being underappreciated . . .
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12-12-2020, 06:51 PM | #75 | |
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And those 2010 Legacy GT's with manual tranny's were terrible. Very numb feeling vehicles...which is why I traded my 05 Gt LTD for a 11 WRX ltd. I really like the CVT's in the legacy and Ascent. Subaru did a great job and I don't understand the hate. |
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