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Old 01-27-2021, 08:28 PM   #11226
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Not bad Indian. Finally putting 17's on helped in every aspect.





https://www.motorcycledaily.com/2021...other-changes/



In my long motorcycling life I am finally sending my forks/shock away for some customization. The forks on the 2018 katie-m exc's are notoriously lacking in any damping. Kreft Moto in Bend, OR is doing the work. They have something called revalve control for the forks which looks like it gives it a broad range of adjustment. At least 1400 bucks not counting expensive shipping. I'm expecting finally tally close to 2k. yolo
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Old 01-27-2021, 11:48 PM   #11227
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I love this bike. Really like that the fuel tank is actually a shroud that hides the airbox, and the actual fuel tank is under the seat. I don't know why I like that but its a interesting solution to maintain the retro vibe. Akra pipes as standard is pretty cool.

Will definitely own this bike someday.
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Old 01-28-2021, 03:42 PM   #11228
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I'm not sure the Akras are standard. The OEM ones look to be the bottom pic.

At 120hp not a power king but more than enough to get ya hurt right quick.
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Old 01-28-2021, 08:01 PM   #11229
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The top one is their flat track special edition one, 1200FTR, and it comes with the akra pipes I believe. I love that bike. So so so good looking.
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Old 01-29-2021, 04:05 PM   #11230
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Anyone have a recommendation for shipping a motorcycle cross country? I've done cars but never bikes.
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Old 01-29-2021, 04:44 PM   #11231
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Anyone have a recommendation for shipping a motorcycle cross country? I've done cars but never bikes.

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100% success rate with them, should be about $650


do not use uship, their cheaper rate will be attractive but if you want to see what that gets you watch a few episodes of Shipping Wars
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Old 02-22-2021, 06:46 PM   #11232
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teh motor company might have a fairly decent bike here. The looks aren't as ugly as it was when first released. It has all of the tech every other mfger has plus some good bits such as Brembo binders etc.

Full release below.
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Old 02-22-2021, 07:24 PM   #11233
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Oh look...it’s a 2021 Buell Ulysses.

That said it may be time to go look for one and scratch that itch I’ve had for 15 years now. I was approved for a red one in 09 or so but then they hit me with 14% interest and I said no thanks.
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Old 02-23-2021, 12:35 AM   #11234
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Great, now Harley owners can break down on dirt lol
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Old 02-23-2021, 07:59 AM   #11235
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So I’ve been riding about 7 years, started with a ninja 250. Upgraded to a street triple 765S which I sold last fall.

I’m looking at getting into track riding, seems like the common suggestion is to start on an SV650. Being that I have two years of riding on a 765 and 7 years overall, is this a good move? Was thinking this or an older (06-08) zx6r to build for the track. Nothing crazy for the “build”, obviously big Focus will be learning better track riding skill.
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Old 02-23-2021, 08:36 AM   #11236
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So I’ve been riding about 7 years, started with a ninja 250. Upgraded to a street triple 765S which I sold last fall.

I’m looking at getting into track riding, seems like the common suggestion is to start on an SV650. Being that I have two years of riding on a 765 and 7 years overall, is this a good move? Was thinking this or an older (06-08) zx6r to build for the track. Nothing crazy for the “build”, obviously big Focus will be learning better track riding skill.
SV650 is a fine starter track bike. You might also want to look into the R3/CBR 300/RC 390/small ninja. Smaller bikes with less power will be easier on consumables which leaves you with more money for track days which you're gonna want because it's super addictive.

That said, nothing wrong with building a 600 for the track, makes your learning curve slightly steeper but in the end it's your experience so do it your way.
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Old 02-23-2021, 08:41 AM   #11237
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SV650 is a fine starter track bike. You might also want to look into the R3/CBR 300/RC 390/small ninja. Smaller bikes with less power will be easier on consumables which leaves you with more money for track days which you're gonna want because it's super addictive.

That said, nothing wrong with building a 600 for the track, makes your learning curve slightly steeper but in the end it's your experience so do it your way.
Thanks for the input. The street triple being a 765 was stupid fast but being a naked bike was also geared differently, my trepidation for starting on a 600 is that I’d be getting used to a fast sports bike while also getting used to track riding, however I don’t know how different a sports bike (I.e. Daytona 675 vs my ST765) really would be performance wise beyond obvious differences in airflow from aero. Consumables is a good point too. I figure I could start on an SV650 and if I want more move up.
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Old 02-23-2021, 09:11 AM   #11238
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The best bet is to buy a well-sorted track bike from someone that's moving on to something different, like "a different track bike" or "a race bike" or "a controlled-substance addiction, which will be slightly cheaper."

Depending on the tracks you spend a lot of time at, a small bike or a naked bike might be perfect. I think I'd want some wind protection at tracks with higher speeds.

For the first year or two, you would "build" for reliability and maybe upgrade suspension a bit. Revalving and respringing the forks and installing a better shock might be a good use of $500 and $1,000, respectively, and you would want to spend a lot of time changing fluids and brake pads more often, but I don't know that you'd have to do anything for a while. IDK if novice groups even have to safety-wire anything, so if you have a good first year, maybe your "build" would involve safety-wiring stuff mid-year and changing to water / water-wetter for coolant so that you can get moved up to intermediate run groups.

Exhaust / filter / ECU remapping seems like a waste of time, like it is for cars. ("The more power mods they have installed, the slower they'll be on-track.")

Have Fun! I need to get back out there myself, but I have some prep work to do first.
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Old 02-23-2021, 09:34 AM   #11239
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The best bet is to buy a well-sorted track bike from someone that's moving on to something different, like "a different track bike" or "a race bike" or "a controlled-substance addiction, which will be slightly cheaper."

Depending on the tracks you spend a lot of time at, a small bike or a naked bike might be perfect. I think I'd want some wind protection at tracks with higher speeds.

For the first year or two, you would "build" for reliability and maybe upgrade suspension a bit. Revalving and respringing the forks and installing a better shock might be a good use of $500 and $1,000, respectively, and you would want to spend a lot of time changing fluids and brake pads more often, but I don't know that you'd have to do anything for a while. IDK if novice groups even have to safety-wire anything, so if you have a good first year, maybe your "build" would involve safety-wiring stuff mid-year and changing to water / water-wetter for coolant so that you can get moved up to intermediate run groups.

Exhaust / filter / ECU remapping seems like a waste of time, like it is for cars. ("The more power mods they have installed, the slower they'll be on-track.")

Have Fun! I need to get back out there myself, but I have some prep work to do first.

You’re on point here. I’ve done research on the sv650 enough to probably do some work on suspension but I don’t plan on any motor work, besides maybe an exhaust that allows for better clearance. Safety wiring I might just do anyway but I’m not going crazy with the “build” per say. New tires, new brakes, revalved suspension and maybe a new rear shock.
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Old 02-23-2021, 10:58 AM   #11240
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You're on point here. I've done research on the sv650 enough to probably do some work on suspension but I don't plan on any motor work, besides maybe an exhaust that allows for better clearance. Safety wiring I might just do anyway but I'm not going crazy with the "build" per say. New tires, new brakes, revalved suspension and maybe a new rear shock.
Stock spring rates are rarely ideal for us Muricans. I mean take any new bike on the market (sporty bikes), forks and shock need new springs at a bare minimum. The forks are always sprung for someone very light (IE Japanese man), and the shock is always sprung for 2 up riding. I've replaced suspension on every bike for 20 years due to this. 1 for safety, but 2 for cornering speed.

And if it's a 600 or 1000. I can tell you R&D build them to race. They dial everything in, then throw it at the CAFE group in the company, where they take on a cat, etc. Then we as owners, remove all that **** to get it back to where it's supposed to be.

What he said above is correct. If you take your time and hunt you'll find someone that has tastefully modded X model you are looking at saving you all the headache. Or you buy new and DIY. I got to the point where Ohlins are a standard item I buy on any new bike.

SV has always been a great bike for beginner, novice or expert. Here CMRA has a specific class for racing them. it's the cheap out so there is a whole class dedicated.
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Old 02-23-2021, 12:55 PM   #11241
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Pretty much all of that. I've been specifically on small bikes the past 3 seasons and for my last two new suspension parts were an immediate upgrade.

One thing I didn't see mentioned yet is tires. How many track days do you want to do a season? Small bikes a set of non slicks will last you 12+ track days. 600s and 1ks probably a 1/3rd of that. Maybe fewer.

When I had the SV I think a set of tires lasted a season. Again, didn't run slicks though.
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Old 02-23-2021, 01:02 PM   #11242
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Pretty much all of that. I've been specifically on small bikes the past 3 seasons and for my last two new suspension parts were an immediate upgrade.

One thing I didn't see mentioned yet is tires. How many track days do you want to do a season? Small bikes a set of non slicks will last you 12+ track days. 600s and 1ks probably a 1/3rd of that. Maybe fewer.

When I had the SV I think a set of tires lasted a season. Again, didn't run slicks though.
I mentioned new tires but I haven’t looked into what I’ll get. Honestly not sure, probably 5-6 max for the first year if I can be honest. I live in SW Ohio, so my “home track” is mid Ohio, which NCM Motorsports Park down in bowling green ky and and another track in Indy. Stopping at my local shop I’d probably be riding with, they had a Midwest track day list at the beginning of last year pre-covid and I think it was like 10 sessions for the year within a weekend drive of our area.
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Old 02-23-2021, 01:53 PM   #11243
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I mentioned new tires but I haven’t looked into what I’ll get. Honestly not sure, probably 5-6 max for the first year if I can be honest. I live in SW Ohio, so my “home track” is mid Ohio, which NCM Motorsports Park down in bowling green ky and and another track in Indy. Stopping at my local shop I’d probably be riding with, they had a Midwest track day list at the beginning of last year pre-covid and I think it was like 10 sessions for the year within a weekend drive of our area.
Well my point was, unless money is no object to you, tire costs will add up more every season the bigger bike you get
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Well my point was, unless money is no object to you, tire costs will add up more every season the bigger bike you get
I wouldn’t say it’s an issue money wise, but based on everyone’s input it’s probably best to start on an SV and see how it will affect my budget, and move up accordingly I’d think.
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I wouldn’t say it’s an issue money wise, but based on everyone’s input it’s probably best to start on an SV and see how it will affect my budget, and move up accordingly I’d think.
Basically ANY existing track/race bike would be a good way to get into it. Old racebikes without titles are almost worthless complete, but it's a pain to deal with parting them out so you should be able to get a WERA/CCS/CSRA etc legal F2/3, SV, EX, etc with all the goodies for less than the cost of buying new parts and converting something yourself. Just check the forums.

I'm close to you in Indy and only slightly out of the way to Putnam, if you want to ride something interesting I have a Spondon frame/tank for an EX500 and a couple EX500 motors with flatslides/cams, stuff like that. Just needs put together but I don't have a need for it. I can't sell it, it's from a friend with too many projects who shipped it to me to "do something' with it. So I just want an excuse to put it together and have someone ride it. I'd be happy to discuss finishing it and loaning it out for the season, would prefer it used and lowsided/highsided compared to sitting. I would set it up with 06+ R6 forks/triples and swingarm/linkage/shock so it should be straightforward to get it into the ballpark for setup.

If you have an interest PM me.
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Old 02-26-2021, 05:43 AM   #11246
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much excite!!!!!1111!1!




gonna find out in a little over a week how this works.
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:35 PM   #11247
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Basically ANY existing track/race bike would be a good way to get into it. Old racebikes without titles are almost worthless complete, but it's a pain to deal with parting them out so you should be able to get a WERA/CCS/CSRA etc legal F2/3, SV, EX, etc with all the goodies for less than the cost of buying new parts and converting something yourself. Just check the forums.

I'm close to you in Indy and only slightly out of the way to Putnam, if you want to ride something interesting I have a Spondon frame/tank for an EX500 and a couple EX500 motors with flatslides/cams, stuff like that. Just needs put together but I don't have a need for it. I can't sell it, it's from a friend with too many projects who shipped it to me to "do something' with it. So I just want an excuse to put it together and have someone ride it. I'd be happy to discuss finishing it and loaning it out for the season, would prefer it used and lowsided/highsided compared to sitting. I would set it up with 06+ R6 forks/triples and swingarm/linkage/shock so it should be straightforward to get it into the ballpark for setup.

If you have an interest PM me.
This is a great offer! Lots of people rode EX500's on the track.
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This is a great offer! Lots of people rode EX500's on the track.
Where the hell do you ride where you see lots of people riding those things?

Gross. There's way better and affordable options now than those dinosaurs.

I think in my 10 years of track riding I've definitely not seen more than a couple. There's really no reason you shouldn't be on a ninja 250 or CBR 250 or Ninja300, Yamaha R3 whatever that isn't at most 7 years old.
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Thinking about picking this up. Thoughts?


It’s nice that it has a clean title. SE Michigan is an easy day trip from Cincinnati.

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Basically ANY existing track/race bike would be a good way to get into it. Old racebikes without titles are almost worthless complete, but it's a pain to deal with parting them out so you should be able to get a WERA/CCS/CSRA etc legal F2/3, SV, EX, etc with all the goodies for less than the cost of buying new parts and converting something yourself. Just check the forums.

I'm close to you in Indy and only slightly out of the way to Putnam, if you want to ride something interesting I have a Spondon frame/tank for an EX500 and a couple EX500 motors with flatslides/cams, stuff like that. Just needs put together but I don't have a need for it. I can't sell it, it's from a friend with too many projects who shipped it to me to "do something' with it. So I just want an excuse to put it together and have someone ride it. I'd be happy to discuss finishing it and loaning it out for the season, would prefer it used and lowsided/highsided compared to sitting. I would set it up with 06+ R6 forks/triples and swingarm/linkage/shock so it should be straightforward to get it into the ballpark for setup.

If you have an interest PM me.
Thanks, I’ll let you know! I definitely need a bike of my own as I’m going to Mid Ohio for a track riding class. But Putnam is one on my list to hit as I get into it.
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