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Old 08-08-2018, 12:48 PM   #51
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Slow down (aka reduce corner entry speed). Reduce steering input. Those are two of the most common mistakes of newbie autocrossers - enter a corner too fast, car starts to understeer, and the response is to crank in more steering input, which just makes the understeer worse and destroys the tires.

Thanks. I'll start learning those things. what would be your thoughts on me getting some wheels and tires just for autocross and still being a novice what tread wear. I found some old enkei 17x7 5x100 +45 offset for 200.00 locally.
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:25 PM   #52
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Thanks. I'll start learning those things. what would be your thoughts on me getting some wheels and tires just for autocross and still being a novice what tread wear. I found some old enkei 17x7 5x100 +45 offset for 200.00 locally.
17x7" is kind of a worthless size, as you can't put much tire on there. You're looking at 215/45s or maybe 225/45s. So if/when you want to get more serious about auto-x, you'd pretty much have to buy another set of (wider) wheels to be competitive.

But in general terms, I don't see anything wrong with what you want to do. You'll preserve your daily-driver all-seasons by having dedicated auto-x wheels/tires you can abuse.
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Old 08-10-2018, 04:13 PM   #53
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17x7" is kind of a worthless size, as you can't put much tire on there. You're looking at 215/45s or maybe 225/45s. So if/when you want to get more serious about auto-x, you'd pretty much have to buy another set of (wider) wheels to be competitive.

But in general terms, I don't see anything wrong with what you want to do. You'll preserve your daily-driver all-seasons by having dedicated auto-x wheels/tires you can abuse.

thanks SCCA has some strange rules. stock can't change rules. but I'm street touring because of being on coilovers, and having a fitted back seat,and harness. well since I'm not turboed.(just a normal fb20 impreza. that put me in a STF, then they took out STF and that put STF people in STS . rules are for wheels 7.5 at widest, and can only go up to a 225. that's why I was looking at 17x7 and not a 17x8-9 like the stx wrx/sti people. would +40 be an okay off set on a 7 inch wide wheel ? or should I just look at getting another set of stock impreza or something the brz wheels ?
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:01 PM   #54
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sorry to bump, but has any one autocross a impreza/legacy/wrx/sti with the firehawk indy 500's ? it's about time for me to start looking at tires. but rs4,re71's,rivals are just not in the budget, and my budget doesn't call for a second set of wheels and tires. so i need a daily/autocross dual purpose tire.
I have a set of these. I'm not a fan.

Grip in either direction isn't very good. Not able to maintain short braking zones or high cornering speeds.

Heat tolerance isn't great. After 2-3 laps they start to get greasy and have even less grip.

With AutoX, the front washes out really easily and doesn't come back when you transfer weight forward. Once you start understeering it's really difficult to bring the car back. Even with a car that is setup with a very loose rear.

They are really soft. Feedback is nonexistant. The whole car would bounce and wander under braking.

After 3 track days, 2 AutoX events, and 7k miles, they still have 9/32 on them. I either need to sell them or live with them for a very long time.


Although treadwear ratings are bogus, I would look for something that is at 200.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:42 PM   #55
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I have a set of these. I'm not a fan.

Grip in either direction isn't very good. Not able to maintain short braking zones or high cornering speeds.

Heat tolerance isn't great. After 2-3 laps they start to get greasy and have even less grip.

With AutoX, the front washes out really easily and doesn't come back when you transfer weight forward. Once you start understeering it's really difficult to bring the car back. Even with a car that is setup with a very loose rear.

They are really soft. Feedback is nonexistant. The whole car would bounce and wander under braking.

After 3 track days, 2 AutoX events, and 7k miles, they still have 9/32 on them. I either need to sell them or live with them for a very long time.


Although treadwear ratings are bogus, I would look for something that is at 200.

thanks Jourdan. I ended up going with a different enkei with some Michelin 214/45/17 on them. I think the enkei are a rsv. they are off a blobeye rs wagon. deside to use these as my daily. then my I currently have on the car I'll use for autocross as I'm still learning just started this year back in march .then from now and over winter I'll save up and put some re71's, or 615k+ , or rivals on them(my stockers) and have them ready for next season.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:24 PM   #56
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^troof!

but at the same time once you figure out how to hold it pinned the absolute most it can be ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

once you figure out slow in fast out , you just need to come to an agreement with whatever it is your operating around the track , talk to each other

no! I want to do it my way ?

the cars not girlfriend/wife/mom ........


this girl wont change her mind

figure the beotch out
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:37 AM   #57
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We finally had a chance to turn wheels in anger on our favorite local driving road. Pretty impressed! No understeer, no slip, a TON more grip than what the car originally came with (185/70/13s). These tires have raised the limits on this car by a lot.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:05 PM   #58
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I swapped over to my winter setup recently, so I checked my maintenance records to see where I'm at on the Indy 500s (205/55-16s on 2.5RS 5-spokes). They have about 13,500 miles on them. I would guess I'll get 20k out of them, maybe a bit less. Not great, but not bad, particularly since they're so inexpensive. I can't see any reason I won't just get another set.
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:45 PM   #59
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I retired my Indy 500s a week or two ago on my '96 Impreza. I got roughly 18,000 miles out of them, all street driving. The car in question is a Brighton coupe, with a basically stock 2.5RS suspension on it, RS 5-spokes and RS-sized 205/55-16 tires. It had not been aligned in a while, so the tires wore out a bit prematurely due to toe wear. If not for that, I probably would've gotten around 20k out of them, as I said back in November.

While my last post said I didn't see any reason I wouldn't buy the Indy 500s again when it came time to replace them, that turned out to not be true. I was very happy with their performance in all respects, I really can't think of any negatives. However, just for the sake of trying something different, this time I went with Federal Evoluzion ST1s in the same 205/55-16 size (and got an alignment, so hopefully I won't wear them out prematurely).
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:05 PM   #60
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Hey guys, just to be clear - your reviews are about the Indy500s right? Not the RE003s?

Only experience I've had with summer tires are the Star Specs Z1s and the PSSs. Star Specs outgripped the PSSs but the PSSs handled the wet better (obviously), less noisy, just better all around. I felt the trade-off in dry grip was worth it. I've had the same PSSs for the last three summers (broke them in on a HPDE event) and there's still a lot of tread left, probably around 20K miles now.

If these rave reviews keep piling up, I'll keep my eye out for these as the replacement in a few years.
Well, it's time. Before this past winter when I swapped out my sets, I noticed tearable wear on the inside of my PSSs. I haven't had an alignment in a few years so the front right was roughly -3+ degrees. I probably could've eeked out another 2 years or 10K miles if I was more consistent on getting alignments.

Due to COVID-19, I haven't driven my wagon at all. Decided to find out what's new in terms of summer tires and remembered this thread.

Perfect timing - Firestone currently has a $100 rebate until July 4th. Will order them after this.

While I was considering pulling the trigger on the PS4S', I can't justify the 2X in cost compared to the Indy500s for a barely daily driver.
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Old 07-09-2020, 11:07 PM   #61
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I put a set on the rear of my 1st gen CTS-V; fronts are Toyos that hadn't worn out yet, so I only did the rears. As I found on the Subaru, these tires are great bang-for-the-buck, I'm very happy with them.
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Old 08-13-2020, 01:05 PM   #62
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Not sure where else to post this but I had piss poor customer service from Firestone and no one really checks the Vendor Reviews section anymore. Just in case anyone else had this happen, at least they now know there's some sort of resolution from Tire Rack.

So I qualified for 2 Firestone rebates at time of purchase. I was denied one of them (FSSUMBONUS20) with eligibile purchase window ending on July 4th; I purchased on July 3rd. I thought it was an error on their part so I submitted again and denied a second time so I gave them a call.

They denied me because the Tire Rack invoice indicated an Invoice Date of July 6th. Eventhough I highlighted the printed Order Date of July 3rd on the invoice before sending it in, they said they have to "draw the line of when they consider the purchase to qualify for the rebate". The rep was just trying to follow whatever her Supervisor decided as she understood my situation. I gave them a ton of crap for it and explained how I have no control over what date Tire Rack put on the invoice, but it clearly shows I ordered within the rebate window.

I was going to raise some hell on Firestone social media accounts but I decided to give Tire Rack customer service a try. I figured even if Tire Rack can't do anything about it; at least they are now aware of the business practices of one of their suppliers. Tire Rack agreed with me that Firestone should be going by the Order Date. The rep said she was going to consult their internal rebate team and get back to me. A few days later, I get a Tire Rack gift card valued $20 more than the rebate Firestone falsely denied.

I've purchased probably 10 sets of tires in my life from Tire Rack and never one ran into an issue like this when submitting rebates to Dunlop, Michelin and other companies I can't recall. Just want to let the community know if you run into an issue with Firestone like mine or even the same issue, reach out to Tire Rack and they should be able to help you.
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Old 08-15-2020, 08:50 PM   #63
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Nice touch from TR.
Apparently Bridgestone/Firestone sucks even more than I thought.

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Old 08-17-2020, 12:52 PM   #64
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Yeah, big time move from Tire Rack. I really appreciate it. They could've easily told me they understand my unfortunate circumstance but I have to deal with Firestone and I would've had no issue with that since it is Firestone's rebate.
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