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05-01-2020, 09:43 AM | #51 |
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tesla cars will always feel heavy because, well they are. If ICE manufacturers add enough weight to make them equally porky to a Tesla, then they are dumb and deserve to go extinct. ICE cars should not be chasing Tesla acceleration numbers. Electric motors inherently have an advantage at 0mph. Screw that. Make the drive an exhilarating, aural euphoric experience . That is something no Tesla will ever be able to do. Play to your strengths.
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05-01-2020, 11:41 AM | #52 | |
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06-01-2020, 08:20 AM | #53 | |
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2021 BMW 4-Series Coupe Brochure Leaked Ahead Of June 2 Reveal
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06-01-2020, 09:23 AM | #54 |
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Like all big grilles it's not a thing of beauty and will take a bit of time to get used to. The rest of the lines look pretty good and a blacked out grille may not look too bad. I'm interested in just how quick the M4 will be as the S58 engine is a monster. If it can get a 4500 lb SUV to 0-60 mph in 3.3 seconds and 1/4 mile in 11.6 sec @ 116 mph in a lighter, more aerodynamic car it should get close to sub-3 second 0-60 times.
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06-01-2020, 01:21 PM | #55 |
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I think 'Audi' when I see the front of that thing...
I don't like thinking 'Audi' when I look at a BMW. |
06-01-2020, 02:18 PM | #56 |
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It reminds me of an Infiniti, and for some reason the big grill makes me take the car less seriously.
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06-01-2020, 04:22 PM | #57 |
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06-01-2020, 10:57 PM | #58 |
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Grill marks, bud. That thing will leave good grill marks.
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06-02-2020, 12:13 AM | #59 |
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Rabbit teeth!
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06-02-2020, 12:44 AM | #60 |
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Id even raise ya to beaver
I cant take it seriously either, cartoonish in a bugs bunny kind of way. Perhaps the X version SUV will look like elmer fudd? That id like to see |
06-02-2020, 01:04 AM | #61 |
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06-02-2020, 07:54 AM | #62 |
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i always thought the old BMW 850 was the best-looking car they made ... mostly because it has an UNDERSTATED grille.
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06-02-2020, 10:48 AM | #63 |
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The last picture of that person sitting on the hood and their foot on the wheel pretty much defines the market BMW is trying to hit with this car. The front lights, the grill, the cut outs in the front bumper, side profile, none of these are BMW design traits/signatures. Still ugly as heck #BARF
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06-02-2020, 11:35 AM | #64 |
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the bitch looks like Sofia Boutella
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06-02-2020, 02:42 PM | #65 |
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At BMW we get our inspiration from strange places.
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06-02-2020, 02:59 PM | #66 |
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06-02-2020, 03:16 PM | #67 |
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Unpopular opinion: I think it looks kinda decent and the grille will grow on me. It certainly looks better in higher res photos:
It looks like the cockpit is driver-oriented (i.e. center console being angled towards driver's seat) which is nice too, even if its just slightly. The rear profile does look very Infiniti, though. The current 3-series looks like a Lexus IS from the rear. It seems that BMW is confused from behind so they just make their grills bigger and bigger as part of their identity. "Party in the front, don't look at the back!" |
06-02-2020, 04:38 PM | #68 |
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NEIN to the power of Infinity!
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06-02-2020, 05:42 PM | #69 |
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I don’t like the grill at all, but otherwise it’s a really nice looking CAR. It doesn’t look like a nice BMW regardless of the grill - weird choice on their part.
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06-02-2020, 08:06 PM | #70 |
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I hated it until I saw this:
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/06/new-2021-bmw-4-series-coupe-keeps-a-straight-face-while-wearing-m-performance-parts/ It looks wayyy more aggressive than the old one, less 'you can have it any way you want as long as it's vanilla' , and I think I figured out why it bothers me at all: I can't unsee the 7 series with the cascading waterfall of a ginormous kidney grill that'll swallow pedestrians whole. If I put that out of my mind, I can see this as a necessary cooling/performance need. Almost. |
06-02-2020, 08:20 PM | #71 |
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...and I gave it a day. NOPE. Still ugly as ****!
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06-02-2020, 09:29 PM | #72 |
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Nope, still looks like scheisse - perhaps the aftermarket can come to the rescue with a restyled front fascia/body kit that will fix that abortion of a front end.
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06-03-2020, 01:20 AM | #73 |
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They better not do this to the G-series M2s...
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06-03-2020, 09:48 AM | #74 |
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OK yeah you're right I just glanced at it, and the grill swallowed my gaze whole. Ugh.
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06-03-2020, 06:46 PM | #75 |
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I think the issue is that they changed too much all at once. If you took the badges off, I would have not guessed it was a BMW. Good God, I hope they don't do this to the LCI 8 series.
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