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Old 09-02-2021, 04:39 PM   #51
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I don't remember anything about being tossed into a river...

I am going to give this show the chance, a serious chance. I truly hope they pull it off.
First book they jump into the river to escape the Trolloc horde chasing them. It's how the group gets separated and they eventually find Shadar Logoth.

And now I will officially end any spoilers for the non book readers.
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Old 09-02-2021, 04:47 PM   #52
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First book they jump into the river to escape the Trolloc horde chasing them. It's how the group gets separated and they eventually find Shadar Logoth.

And now I will officially end any spoilers for the non book readers.
Wow...I had TOTALLY forgotten about that. Bella! Christ.
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Old 09-02-2021, 05:03 PM   #53
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Hope it isn't meh. But got bored halfway through the teaser. Seems very generic.
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:46 PM   #54
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It's really going to be hard to capture what made the books popular.

Even though from the surface (especially the first couple of books), it's seems derivative of Tolkien (though not as blatant as Sword of Shannara), Jordan does change it up a bit later on and his narrative style is easy to pick-up even though a bit long winded (his Conan books were more concise).

For TV shows and movies, they will always be compared to the LoTR series and of course the GoT. I'm not sure this series will last long enough to differentiate itself from those other movies/shows.

I would have preferred an animated series. I'll give the show a chance, but at least the books are always there to go back to.
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:35 PM   #55
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It's really going to be hard to capture what made the books popular.

Even though from the surface (especially the first couple of books), it's seems derivative of Tolkien (though not as blatant as Sword of Shannara), Jordan does change it up a bit later on and his narrative style is easy to pick-up even though a bit long winded (his Conan books were more concise).

For TV shows and movies, they will always be compared to the LoTR series and of course the GoT. I'm not sure this series will last long enough to differentiate itself from those other movies/shows.

I would have preferred an animated series. I'll give the show a chance, but at least the books are always there to go back to.
Animated is the way I wanted it to go too.

I tried to watch the Shanara TV show but...no, just no. But my ex, who never read the books, enjoyed it (not loved but enjoyed).

IMO LoTR was the exception to a beloved complex series of books translated to the screen. Failure is far more common than success...but that doesn't mean I don't want studios to continue to try. I would LOVE for Wheel of Time to pull that off. So I'm going to give it every opportunity to do so...and if it fails, that's a bummer, I'll just read the books again.
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:50 PM   #56
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Sorry but... A lot of those shots looked like low budget CW/Syfy channel lame Scifi/fantasy series shows.

I'll watch the first episode though since its free for me.
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:55 PM   #57
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Okay. I'll be that guy. This was a really lame book and I'm surprised it has enough support to be turned into a tv show. Never understood the appeal. Seemed like a juvenile, totally-not-inspired-by-the-Lord-Of-The-Rings book you get in an airport when all the Shannara Chronicles (also meh) are sold out.

Narrator: "Balantz made no friends on the Internet that day."
OK, Bal. Go pick up your Archie comic instead.....
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Old 09-03-2021, 01:02 AM   #58
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OK, Bal. Go pick up your Archie comic instead.....
**** off. I'm reading Hyperion for the third time right now.
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Old 09-03-2021, 03:59 AM   #59
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I don't remember anything about being tossed into a river...

I am going to give this show the chance, a serious chance. I truly hope they pull it off.
I think they changed the aes sedai accepted trials a bit. That's what I think those scenes are. Too bad not naked I guess... the river might be a metaphor for the one power.
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Old 09-03-2021, 08:57 AM   #60
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IMO LoTR was the exception to a beloved complex series of books translated to the screen. Failure is far more common than success...but that doesn't mean I don't want studios to continue to try. I would LOVE for Wheel of Time to pull that off. So I'm going to give it every opportunity to do so...and if it fails, that's a bummer, I'll just read the books again.
I'll pick up where Balantz left off yesterday.

LoTR is a horrible book series, and the LoTR movies got worse with each new one released. Tolkien was a great world builder, but very bad at telling stories.

WoT does start off a bit like fellowship, but diverges by the end of the first book. a lot of the problems with WoT was that RJ didn't really have the system of magic well thought out until a few books into the series. he also thought he was writing a short series, and then when he got to what would be the last book in the series, he realized he had a lot (A LOT) more to tell, and you can totally feel the pace change, and you can even notice that a few of the things that were moving in a specific direction just disappeared (the speed of Rand's madness for one).

anyway, I've been ready for this, the one thing I'm already a bit disappointed in is the look of the cities, in every book, when they introduce a new city there is a map in the book, and that's how I've built the cities, Tar Valon did not look like the book described it.

I can't wait for the battle of Carhien, or Battle of Emond's Field.

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Old 09-04-2021, 06:27 PM   #61
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First book they jump into the river to escape the Trolloc horde chasing them. It's how the group gets separated and they eventually find Shadar Logoth.

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Wow...I had TOTALLY forgotten about that. Bella! Christ.
New trailer dropped.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/deta...CuJCb_brws_4_2

This also changes my answer a bit as the river scene we see is being used in a different context. If you know the books, you should know what I'm talking about.
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Old 09-04-2021, 07:59 PM   #62
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Don't judge this (or any other) series/movie by the trailer alone. The more complex the plot line, the less it will translate into a sound bite trailer. Just sayin'
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Old 09-04-2021, 09:15 PM   #63
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On some youtube channel a guy brought up I think is the best point so far about the TV series: tone. Will they aim to actually show the dark stuff or just kinda gloss over it like Jordan always did.

A great example is the combat, which in the books is always just all graceful and particularly vague. The actual combat takes place off the pages, basically, in your own head, so the exceptions are *really* notable. Jordan writes like that with a LOT of the darker things going on (what do Myrddraal really do enjoy about a captured Aes Sedai, one may wonder...) and tries to keep stuff on page much more PG than what's really going on.

The TV series could seriously be as gnarly as GoT was if it wanted to, but could also be super light, so we'll see where it really lands.

I'm hoping it starts out very extreme, black and white, so to speak between good/evil and gradually blends more into gray all over the place as the show progresses.

Also, no way am I watching trailers for this, I need to go in as blind as possible lol. I had a hard enough time getting over some of the casting choices.
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On some youtube channel a guy brought up I think is the best point so far about the TV series: tone. Will they aim to actually show the dark stuff or just kinda gloss over it like Jordan always did.

A great example is the combat, which in the books is always just all graceful and particularly vague. The actual combat takes place off the pages, basically, in your own head, so the exceptions are *really* notable. Jordan writes like that with a LOT of the darker things going on (what do Myrddraal really do enjoy about a captured Aes Sedai, one may wonder...) and tries to keep stuff on page much more PG than what's really going on.

The TV series could seriously be as gnarly as GoT was if it wanted to, but could also be super light, so we'll see where it really lands.

I'm hoping it starts out very extreme, black and white, so to speak between good/evil and gradually blends more into gray all over the place as the show progresses.

Also, no way am I watching trailers for this, I need to go in as blind as possible lol. I had a hard enough time getting over some of the casting choices.
My only casting choice complaint is Lan. He is supposed to be a physically intimidating man. Someone who looked like Schwarzenegger from the Conan days is what I always envisioned.
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My only casting choice complaint is Lan. He is supposed to be a physically intimidating man. Someone who looked like Schwarzenegger from the Conan days is what I always envisioned.
And Perrin as well - I suppose if they both bulked up a bit it would help, but Perrin especially is supposed to be built like a barn.
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Found an awesome channel with an in depth series of videos for WoT that is specifically spoiler-free for non-book readers.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...RmRCeUDse6lpoe


He also has book spoilery stuff for book readers:
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Found an awesome channel with an in depth series of videos for WoT that is specifically spoiler-free for non-book readers.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...RmRCeUDse6lpoe


He also has book spoilery stuff for book readers:
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I'm pretty excited about this series, but trying to temper my enthusiasm at the same time. Yes, adaptations of books to the screen are often disappointing, but I feel like if I keep my expectations reigned in a little bit this could be a great series to watch. The trailers for this make it look better than the average SyFy Channel fantasy series.

I've read this entire series twice. The second time on audiobook when, a handful of years ago, I had a pretty long work commute.

But anyway, it's been a long time coming, so I'm more excited about this than just about anything else coming down the pipe.
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I'm curious if we'll ever find out why they recast Mat between seasons.
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I'm curious if we'll ever find out why they recast Mat between seasons.
Mat is the one character they must not Fup. But they have until Tear to get it right. Matt before that moment and after that moment are drastically different.

He could also look different after the Rhuidean incident.

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Old 10-28-2021, 01:56 PM   #72
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Not watching that, I want to be optimistically disappointed

Succession, Hawkeye, and WoT. November/December gun be gud.
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Old 10-28-2021, 02:25 PM   #73
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Watched it.

Loved it.

So excited to see it!!!








...did notice a couple odd things then purposefully focused on enjoying what a gift this is vs. trying to pick apart stuff.
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Old 10-28-2021, 02:53 PM   #74
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The wheel weaves as the wheel wills.

Hopefully the writers of this series took that to heart and puts the emphasis on the original storyline and writing style. And the pacing of the story should resemble the books.
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Heard the "taint" is now the "corruption". Looks like they are trying to avoid the memes down the road.
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