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08-04-2021, 07:37 PM | #76 |
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The thing y’all don’t understand is that according to Pre, only 80 year olds drive sedans. Hence why it’s very baffling that you guys are over 80 with kids. Maybe adopted?
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08-04-2021, 07:55 PM | #77 | |
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08-04-2021, 08:09 PM | #78 |
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08-04-2021, 08:53 PM | #79 |
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I like the direction this thread is headed in.
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08-04-2021, 08:55 PM | #80 |
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08-04-2021, 11:41 PM | #81 | |
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08-04-2021, 11:52 PM | #82 | |
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Seats will be filled by kids, adults, dogs, etc. They're designed around an adult because you can't design a seat around a kid - you put them in car seats and boosters until they're adult sized. Do you somehow think that the captains chairs in mini-vans are designed for kids? If it's seat fabric you are concerned about, I think the perforated leather in the back of our outback is absolutely terrible for a dog/kid/family friendly vehicle. Those sorts of choices don't preclude a car being used by a child. |
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08-05-2021, 12:26 AM | #83 |
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08-05-2021, 08:00 AM | #84 | |
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Alcantara on the seating surfaces? great idea, that's what the material is designed for, but GM did not do that, they put it only on the seat backs. I have kids, I consider them in every decision I make, it's almost as if, wait for it, they are my kids, and I have to consider them in every decision I make. I did not say every vehicle ever made has to be made for children, I did say that if it's a four door, rear passengers, which in my case includes children, as well as adults, have to be considered, because if it's a four door, likely, there will be rear passengers, otherwise, why have a four door at all? Cadillac (and others) have done the ho-hum sedan version, and a high performance coupe version, but Cadillac didn't, they went the four door route for the high performance version, ergo, rear passengers. These high performance sedans aren't targeting Cadillacs historic demo either, they are going after younger buyers; Cadillac literally stated as much with the prior attempts (CTS-V & ATS-V for example). This car is literally in the same class as the car I currently own, why wouldn't I consider it? Flat out Pre, do you think that it was a good idea to put Alcantara on the back of the seats and not on the seating surface? Or do you agree that it was a dumb idea? Or, will you keep dodging the question because you're so damn full of yourself and you can't admit you were wrong and are only arguing for the sake of arguing? |
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08-05-2021, 09:11 AM | #85 | |
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Yeah I agree, any kids under like 10 are gonna be constantly putting their dirty shoes on the back of the seat. Look at the back of the front seats of anyone with kids. That should be leather. Back seats should not be unbolstered leather or the passengers will be sliding all over the place. But as I said this car wasn't designed for kids or even backseat passengers, they didn't care - it's only a sedan cause that's what they had to work with. |
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08-05-2021, 12:02 PM | #86 |
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This thread is so dang fun... it has been dull a while, I dedicate my second cup of coffee to all of you fine people.
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08-05-2021, 07:19 PM | #87 | |
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Let me rephrase this another way Ok? Vale announced his retirement this morning at Spielberg, and I’m gutted beyond belief. My last hero I will ever have is hanging them up and it’s a sad day. Not like when my only family member died last year of covid or when my best friend died, just a very sad day. So in the interest in extending the hand, and not being my blunt usual self. I hear ya dude. But I will also say, if you have the kind of money where you can afford a 60-80k performance sedan…….then you have the money to buy it (once say ADM isn’t thing, or whatever) and run it by the local upholstery shop and get rid of that Alcantara. You know how much work it is to have it swapped out to fabric, leather, whatever you want? Not much, and it’s not that expensive. And my point, was in the grand scheme of things, the seat backs are a deal breaker? If you say so. Kids, no kids, putting a filthy dog back there, some Alcantara seat backs, whether you like them, hate them, think it’s awesome, or completely stupid, is just nothing in the grand scheme of things, it really isn’t. Manuals are drying up like the Sahara desert. If you want a sedan, want performance, want a 6MT, the seats shouldn’t stop you. We just don’t have an abundance of things like this. And I think some people just need to relent to owning say a vehicle designed to shuttle kids around, AND a performance car of some kind. For what the Blackwing cost, mid equipped or max, you could have a very nice Van and a performance car like say the new BRZ for what it costs. Or a STi and a more kid friendly vehicle. and fwiw. I actually have friends And many of them have children. I’ve baby sat (not infants, that’s a no go), shuttled them around, etc, countless times. Date nights, vacay gap until the grandparents can get there, etc. You know what my no questions demand is? I use their vehicle. They aren’t allowed in mine. I know full well what goes on. Kicking the chair, spilling S. I mean dude there is a reason I never wanted them. Kudos to all you dads. God bless. |
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08-05-2021, 08:02 PM | #88 | |
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400+ HP, check 6mT, check Alcantara seat back, that’s it, I’m buying a minivan! Don’t need to feel sympathy for us dads though, it has its own rewards, like when your kid tries gokarting for the first time and loves it. |
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08-06-2021, 10:30 AM | #90 | |
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No I'm too busy petitioning all mfr's of performance saloons to install Alcantara seatbacks to make your head f'in explode. I need to contact Toyota and Subaru also and tell them to nix the upcoming 86/BRZ also. It's not a kid friendly vehicle. You after reading Alcantara seatbacks on a 60k-80k performance saloon: Me, after reading Alcantara seatbacks: I read all your posts. I still don't think it's that big of a deal at all, and think you are blowing a gasket, and total overkill. It's such a problem for you, simple, don't buy the car. |
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08-11-2021, 02:56 PM | #91 |
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08-11-2021, 02:56 PM | #92 |
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10-20-2021, 06:11 PM | #93 | |
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10-21-2021, 09:03 AM | #94 |
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$140k to BMW gets you a dull driving experience. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
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10-21-2021, 09:28 AM | #95 |
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anybody else just waiting for Caddy to rename these again. Bring back the Cimerron, or el dorado GT, or something. I feel Caddy is lost and nobody cares about them any more. They have wandered too long and now that they are trying to say look at me, the world has moved on. As usual, the only cars they produce that are worth a glance are the ones nobody can afford. How is the base or entry level CT-4. That is where you will make money. Or are all of these just money losers because they make all the cash on the escalade
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10-21-2021, 09:44 AM | #96 | |
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I think Cadillac tried too hard to undercut the competition price-wise with the CT4. When I spec out a blackwing It's closer to 70k, mainly because items I want (ventilated seats & HUD) are lumped into packages. |
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10-21-2021, 09:53 AM | #97 | |
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10-21-2021, 01:31 PM | #98 | |
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10-21-2021, 01:37 PM | #99 |
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lots of truth to that as well.
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05-31-2022, 02:38 AM | #100 | |
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2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing Automatic Tested: 0–60 MPH and 1/4 Mile Times
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