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07-25-2017, 06:25 PM | #1351 |
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Well, the repair they did on my car last time broke again. So now my car is back at the dealer getting the new mount installed. This car is very frustrating. I just had it in to get the throwout bearing replaced under the TSB, get the car back and now this. Way too many issues with a car with less than 21k miles.
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07-25-2017, 08:48 PM | #1352 |
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Unless you for sure got the revised TOB, the odds of getting the squeal again are almost 100%. Even with the revised version I've read that people still get the whirring on occasion. Usually getting this fixed results in more problems (scratches, things not connected properly etc.) that the dealer causes and only gives you future headaches.
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07-26-2017, 02:03 PM | #1353 | |
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09-10-2017, 01:27 PM | #1354 |
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Since I don't have time to read through 46 pages, I'll just ask straight outright. Has this ever been an issue with 2011+ WRX vehicles or just 2015+? I'm looking at putting a pitch stop in my car and had heard about this situation. I see that Perrin has a bracket brace for it in 2015+ but not older than that. Are there any brands that would be recommended over others for better fitment etc? Group N pitch stop seems much less aggressive compared to the perrin, kartboy etc.
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09-10-2017, 01:57 PM | #1355 | |
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There is a tsb on how dealer replaces the broken brackets, as well as an extended warranty on the affected model years. |
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09-11-2017, 06:34 PM | #1356 |
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09-11-2017, 09:28 PM | #1357 |
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Morning gents. Another Aussie checking in, just picked up an early production 2014 WRX 6spd [15+ / VAB] over the weekend in pretty much showroom condition despite the 80k on the clock [50k in ye olde imperial]. Was aware of the pitch stop mount on firewall potentially being a problem and can confirm my car does not suffer from it [otherwise I wouldnt have bought it]. Love the car so far apart from the stupid hill-start assist. However, given what I have planned for it in future Ive read the last 55 pages to familiarize myself with this as this issue is not really common or widely reported in Oz as far as im aware.
Just to be clear on what I am trying to achieve; I am hoping to eliminate or reduce the slight driveline rock/shunt between gear changes or whilst coasting at low speed in low gears. I am also hoping to reinforce the pitch stop mount on firewall so that this mode of failure is not able to occur. With that in mind, the combination of parts I wish to run are as follows: -Group N Gearbox mount -Whiteline gearbox crossmember pad bushings -Group N Anti-pitch mount -Perrin pitch stop bracket reinforcement Please note at this point I have no intention nor any desire of adding either Group N or aftermarket engine mounts. Despite planned engine modifcations and occasional hard driving, this car will primarily be my wifes daily driver and will spend a large portion of its time with my first born child [due Dec] on board. As such, I am trying to strike a compromise between function of parts being fitted and NVH. Sorry for the long winded wind-up prior to questions being asked, just thought it would be best to elaborate prior to posting so there isnt a flood of lynch-mob-esque posts demanding I be burned at the stake for not wanting the engine mounts, and covering old ground that has already been covered on the previous 54 pages. Questions are as follows. -I noticed Steemax is using the same combination of parts I intend to use [and for roughly the same reasons], along with another user a few pages prior that was also looking to do the same. Is Steemax or anyone else who has used this exact combination [Perrin Brace/Upgraded PSM/Upgraded TM] able to comment on how this has worked out for them thus far? Im not asking about NVH as that is subjective - I mean in terms of durability. Have you discovered any other issues running this combination, and how has it held up thus far? -Has there been any recorded failures to the pitch stop bracket on firewall and/or other damage as a result of running the Perrin brace, regardless of combination of other parts used? In my experiences gained over the years of playing with other cars, the way the Perrin brace is designed should effectively eliminate ANY possibility of the bracket being able to develop any of the previously shown modes of failure [tearing around spot welds, cracking in half etc]. However, as always - real world experience trumps anecdotal - so would love to hear from anyone having run one of these for a substantial amount of time and how theyve fared. Im tipping none have failed - looks like a fantastically designed piece that effectively gussets the bracket stopping movement - leaving only the potential for bush failure on the actual pitch stop arm/bracket which I can live with. -Is anyone able to confirm that the Perrin brace will fit RHD vehicles? Standard engineering practice dictates that the bolt holes for the LHD clutch master cyl will be there [havent looked and dont have car here with me], however i note that the bracket bolts OVER the master cylinder and as such would require spacers OR a different profile brace to work on an RHD car. Thats about it for now. Cheers N- |
10-23-2017, 06:58 PM | #1358 |
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RIP. 40k miles heavily modified. Trying to get the dealer to fix it if not what are peoples thoughts on welding it back together and adding the perrin mount
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11-03-2017, 08:45 AM | #1359 |
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I have 2015 WRX with Perrin brace and beatrush pitch stop - no issues yet but only installed about 500 miles ago will revisit this post after more miles for update.
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11-05-2017, 10:01 AM | #1360 |
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Vehicle:2016 WRX STage ?? Dirty |
I have installed the full Perrin setup,
Motor mounts, Trans mounts, brake cylinder brace, steering wheel brace thing, pitch mount brace (using beatrush billet pitch stop mount with it) full bushing replacement even subframe and running Velox, SuperPro, WL, and Voodoo13 front/rear control arms, rods, etc.. cabin noise is much louder (dynamat killed most of it) also running fluiddamper pulley lessened the noise in cabin. All in all I'm stage 3 for the last 18.5k miles not a single issue!! My end links and some of my cusco bracing is a bit rusted, yet just cosmetic. I track the car and drive super hard this is also used as a daily driver. That Perrin mount brace is prob. Overkill to tell you the truth. You will be fine. I prefer Perrin quality over group N and customer service is the best at Perrin!! |
11-05-2017, 10:18 AM | #1361 |
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Haha this mount on the firewall is almost identical to the one on my 92 loyale which has one injector and 80 hp. Hahahaha
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11-08-2017, 08:08 PM | #1362 |
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Update on my pitch stop break.
Took it to the first dealership and refused to touch my car unless I took it completely back to stock. Also in the report said that I had a low mount turbo.... it's the stock turbo Took it to another dealership where I bought the car. Ended up talking to the Owner of the dealership's son who also works there and has a 600hp bagged 07 Sti. Talked to him for about 30 mins and he told me to take off my track inspection stickers off and laughed. He said they would take care of it no problem. They have had the car for a week now. When I called they said they welded the new mount on and it was sitting with the engine out at their body shop to be painted. My only concern is AOS and the Boost controller being correctly installed after they finish at the painting Mods: Full 3 inch catless exhaust IAG AOS Turbo XS FMIC TGV/ EGR deletes PRL intake Grimmspeed EBCS Brakes and suspension |
11-08-2017, 09:11 PM | #1363 |
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Wow good to hear you found a dealership to take it like that.
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02-16-2018, 03:24 AM | #1364 | |
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That's with the dealership saying that the welds ripped from the firewall. |
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02-16-2018, 03:35 AM | #1365 | |
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Anyways, Looking into a whole lot of research into this, what caused the bracket to rip off, what I could do to make sure it won't fail again .etc I was looking into Perrin's T bracket brace and upgrading the motor mounts. I'll just stick to what you said and upgrade the transmission mount. I don't feel like throwing money in the air to buy random stuff thinking that it'll help me. Hopefully I won't get that problem anymore. |
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02-16-2018, 10:29 AM | #1366 |
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our wrx or sti is notorious for that breakage even under normal driving condition. if you don't mind getting non oem one, i highly recommend perrin pitch stop brace. Yeah....group N transmission mount is must. you'll feel the difference of minimized drivetrain lash when upshifting and downshifting.
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02-16-2018, 11:17 AM | #1367 | |
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feel like this needs to be reposted:
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that said, upgrade all the garbage OEM mounts. best mod i've done. subaru fixed this whole issue for the 2017+ models i believe. |
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02-16-2018, 01:04 PM | #1368 | |
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I was thinking of getting a new bracket, then getting the group N transmission mount with the Perrin dog bone. Maybe I’ll think of getting the brace too if that’ll help make sure it’s not going to fail again.. I tend to drive my car aggressively and ripped off when I was just cruising it the drive home. |
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02-16-2018, 01:30 PM | #1369 | |
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02-16-2018, 03:02 PM | #1370 |
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My 2017 does not have the fix, it was fixed toward the later production run of 2017s and 2018 model year.
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02-16-2018, 03:20 PM | #1371 |
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I don't know if my 2017 has the fix or not but I put the Perrin pitch stop brace with a kartboy pitch stop and also the Perrin transmission mount and motor mounts. I couldn't stand the motor/transmission bumping the firewall/floor if I tried to get on it from a dead stop. So replacing those mounts fixed that issue and hopefully prevented future problems with the Pitch Stop mount.
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02-21-2018, 03:54 AM | #1372 |
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Not sure about upgrading the pitch stop and the trans mount but leaving the OEM engine mounts.
That just puts more stress on the pitch stop as the engine is not being supported by the engine mounts equally. The stiffer mount takes all the load. If you are worried then do the Perrin brace. Then either all mounts or none imo. |
06-08-2018, 08:07 PM | #1373 |
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Do the 2018 suffer from breaking pitch stop mounts?
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06-11-2018, 03:34 PM | #1374 |
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06-11-2018, 06:24 PM | #1375 |
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I still have that weird clunking noise after a first gear shift. Sounds like a gunshot. Usually only when doing a "spirited" pull. It could still be a problem. Mine is a 2018
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