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View Poll Results: How satisfied are you with your laser eye surgery?
Had LASIK, Very satisified, little to no side effects 79 60.31%
Had LASIK, Satisfied, few side effects 19 14.50%
Had LASIK, Unsatisfied, more side effects 1 0.76%
Had LASIK, very unsatisfied, not worth it at all 1 0.76%
Had PRK, Very satisified, little to no side effects 25 19.08%
Had PRK, Satisfied, few side effects 3 2.29%
Had PRK, Unsatisfied, more side effects 0 0%
Had PRK, very unsatisfied, not worth it at all 3 2.29%
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:18 PM   #51
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I stare at a computer all day, also.

I had the procedure on a Thursday afternoon, and worked Friday. Only used a half a day vacation. The following Thursday, I competed in a rally. Just use the drops religiously for the first couple months.

Doesn't really matter how bad your eyesight is, the laser still only takes a couple minutes. There's only so much lens to reshape. I was -5.0 before, 20/15 after.
Good info.

I'm somewhat concerned that I might not be able to get full 20/20 because of how poor my eyesight is right now. As far as my contacts are concerned, I'm at 7.0 in one eye, and 8.5 in the other.

Even if they can only correct it to the point that I won't be absolutely blind without contacts, it'll still be worth it. Right now if I had to read this post without contacts, I would need to get so close to the screen that it's distorted because of how close it is...
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:40 AM   #52
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I had Lasik in 2004, and would do it again in a heartbeat. The only side-effect that I've had is little floating sparks when I sneeze or otherwise increase pressure in my head. My overall vision is 20:20, although each eye is around 20:30 or so.

Harv: if you do martial arts, you may want to rethink. If it's Judo or BJJ, you'll probably be fine, but striking arts where you might take a blow to the eye is something else again. PRK is probably the answer there, because you don't have a permanently weakened flap that could be shorn away or dislodged.
Re: sparks. Those are stars. Get your blood pressure checked.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:42 AM   #53
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Good info.

I'm somewhat concerned that I might not be able to get full 20/20 because of how poor my eyesight is right now. As far as my contacts are concerned, I'm at 7.0 in one eye, and 8.5 in the other.

Even if they can only correct it to the point that I won't be absolutely blind without contacts, it'll still be worth it. Right now if I had to read this post without contacts, I would need to get so close to the screen that it's distorted because of how close it is...
I had a friend with eyes worse than that. She had hers done in a two step procedure to make sure they did not over-correct. They corrected her to about -2 then two or three months later corrected to 20/20. She had to wear glasses in the interim.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:48 AM   #54
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Good info.

I'm somewhat concerned that I might not be able to get full 20/20 because of how poor my eyesight is right now. As far as my contacts are concerned, I'm at 7.0 in one eye, and 8.5 in the other.

Even if they can only correct it to the point that I won't be absolutely blind without contacts, it'll still be worth it. Right now if I had to read this post without contacts, I would need to get so close to the screen that it's distorted because of how close it is...
I think the main thing is whether your prescription has been consistent for a while and not changed. Then you want to find a doctor who knows what he is doing and can refer you to a specialist in the field if you are an outlier.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:25 PM   #55
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I'm not doing full contact anything, but you're right that things happen even with light contact sparring. Is the flap permanently weakened by the surgery? I would think it would heal up completely after a certain amount of time.
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Combat sports (such as boxing, kick boxing, and mixed martial arts) are very popular. Many people might wonder if participation in combat sports is safe with LASIK. These same people feel that contact lenses and glasses are not appropriate for their sport and often cause them to struggle during competition. How often have fighters in boxing, kick boxing, or mixed martial arts lost a contact lens in the middle of a fight?

LASIK is generally not recommended, however, for participation in these sports. The flap created during LASIK has been shown to be extremely durable but there is the concern that a violent blow could tear the flap from its location. While this isn't likely to happen, most surgeons would choose a different type of surgery, known as PRK, for patients desiring to take part in combat sports, such as boxing, kick boxing, and mixed martial arts.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:33 PM   #56
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Re: sparks. Those are stars. Get your blood pressure checked.
Well, I have my dad's old little home bp unit, so I checked it this morning. Two checks: 104/80 and 107/80. Both are near enough my historic average of 110/70.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:41 PM   #57
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My wife had Lasik done about two years ago and loves the results. I think shes now 20/15 in both eyes but her vision was not that bad beforehand. The only issues she's had are some swelling in one eye that lasted a few days (and scared the **** out of both of us, necessitating a call to their 24 hour emergency number), the halos that lasted a few weeks and eventually went away, and the intermittent dry-eye everyone gets. It all worked out in the end but it was very stressful and I'm not sure she'd do it again.

I was a bit concerned about the medication she was given and the directions on how to take it. First of all, she didn't get a valium (or a Tylenol PM) until after the procedure, which didn't make much sense. We were initially told by another nurse or whatever that she would get a valium to help her relax before the procedure (which she REALLY needed) but the nurse at the time said she'll get it afterward to help her sleep. But isn't that what the Tylenol PM is for? So unfortunately, she was a nervous wreck during the procedure which was mercifully short. The doctor had to keep telling her to breathe because she was holding it out of near-panic. Then afterward, once she stopped taking the anti-inflammatory drops (using them exactly how the typed-out instructions said to) was when she had swelling in one eye. Calling the emergency number, the doctor on call said she should still have been using them and not to stop yet. WTF?

A coworker of mine who had the same procedure done in the same place by the same doctor said he was told by the staff there to use the drops until the bottle was empty. So which is it? This kind of non-matching information did not give us a whole lot of confidence in the staff there. Thankfully, everything worked out fine in the end, but I was ****ting bricks during the procedure because she was so nervous, then again afterward when we were on the phone with a doctor around midnight a few days later.

My wife loves her 'laser eyes' now but I think she's blocked the memory of the procedure from her head.
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:19 PM   #58
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yeah, the smell of burning eye-flesh is pretty disturbing

good thing the valium keeps you nice and calm.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:22 PM   #59
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In the Army and my vision is -7.00 in both eyes. Been wearing contacts for 10 plus years. The Docs are leaning to Phakic Intraocular Lens. Meaning the insert a permanent contact lens inside my eye. Anyone had this or here about it?
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:40 PM   #60
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I wonder who the one person that voted that it was worth it was.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:56 PM   #61
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Older people will need reading glasses, even right after its done.
Their eye muscles aren't able to adapt to the full range of motion that "good" eye-sight requires.
This isn't new, and I was even told it before my surgery.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:02 PM   #62
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In the Army and my vision is -7.00 in both eyes. Been wearing contacts for 10 plus years. The Docs are leaning to Phakic Intraocular Lens. Meaning the insert a permanent contact lens inside my eye. Anyone had this or here about it?
I read about that in a brochure for lasik. I don't remember exactly what it said, but its useful for people with very thin corneas because they dont have to reshape or cut away the cornea.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:21 PM   #63
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You guys got valium? All I got was a little stress ball to squeeze.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:35 PM   #64
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Hey Harv. I actually got PRK, since the military wouldn't approve LASIK for pilots. Concerns about eyeballs exploding or something, probably way overconservative on their part. I got it 9 or 10 years ago and would poll that I'm very satisfied, few side effects, if I had the requisite posts to participate. I was officially 20/100, but bottom line couldn't see the big E at the top of the eye chart (What eye chart? Where?). Lights are a little starbursty at night, and my eyes get a little dry and sticky when I'm dehydrated or tired, but those are both super minor relative to the benefits. One eye has been slowly declining and is not about 20/25. After a decade I think that's pretty friggin good. Were I allowed to go LASIK, though, I would have. The way I understand it, the healing process is much faster and easier and I would say the eyeball has a better protective coating post-healing than the PRKed eyeball. $.02
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:39 PM   #65
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I had the PRK done. Compliments of being in the military, thank you, your tax dollars paid for this.

but the PRK is really more for active people. There's been reports of the flap from the LASIK reopening from high speeds of stuff like rollercoasters, motorcycles, or other things. with PRK you dont have that risk of the flap reopening cause it heals equally all the way around.

but I'm extremely satisfied with my PRK. perfect 20/20 vision and for me, it wasn't painful at all. I do get mild dryness every once in a while. but I think that's something that I'd gladly have for perfect vision.
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Old 01-28-2010, 07:35 PM   #66
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I wonder who the one person that voted that it wasn't worth it was.
Fixed and yeah it's tough to say if people just randomly vote. I guess I could have made the poll public.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:12 PM   #67
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You guys got valium? All I got was a little stress ball to squeeze.
I got valium, and a teddy bear.

I needed both. When they pulled the flap back and everything went dark I just about freaked.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:30 PM   #68
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I'm really interested in getting a PRK or LASIK for my eyes, how much did you guys spend to get this done?
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:43 PM   #69
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In the Army and my vision is -7.00 in both eyes. Been wearing contacts for 10 plus years. The Docs are leaning to Phakic Intraocular Lens. Meaning the insert a permanent contact lens inside my eye. Anyone had this or here about it?
I was about to post about the Lasik/PRK alternative Vsian ICL.

I had it done in July of 2009. I was about -8.5/-9.0 in either eye with astigmatism. I was told that due to the shape of my cornea, Lasik may cause it to be too flat. So I opted for the ICL.

Procedure: this is at my doc office so your experience may differ

Get to the office and get the Valium. (should have taken two haha) They put many drops in both eyes. (if I had to guess maybe 4/5 in each eye) Then surgery. It is actually not bad looking back. They cut a very, very small incision in the eye. Instead of using a laser to make the iridotomy, my dr. preformed a manual, by hand iridectomy. (these are tiny holes in the iris used to relieve pressure from the new lens in the eye. this procedure is also used to alleviate pressure for people with abnormally high eye pressure/glaucoma) I guess they prefer the hand method now, as they can control the size of it. Then the stick a tiny tube into the opening where the new lens unfolds out of. They tuck it behind the iris and in front of the natural lens of your eye. (There are four "feet", on at each corner, that they tuck to keep the lens in place.) Then they do the other eye...or if you wish one eye at a time but screw that I wasn't going back the next week. Very simple and took about 20/30 minutes total....if I recall correctly. (it was not that long at all) Then after being wheeled out of the OR, I could read the clock! great feeling after being in glasses since third grade (I am 26)

Pros:

I am now 20/20 total...almost 20/15 in left eye and 20/25 in right due to astigmatism.

My costs include a Lasik touch up if needed which I will probably get when everything stabilizes. (now they can do the Lasik as they will have to take very little off the cornea)

I can wake up and read the clock and not have to fidget with getting my glasses on to function.

I can play basketball, etc without worrying about breaking my glasses.

I got to wear sunglasses for the first time.
should keep my vision crisp for a good amount of time....though I know it will probably change at some point but I am enjoying it while I can.

It is reversible, unlike Lasik.

Good conversation piece lol. Most people do not know about it.

Probably more that I am missing

Cons:

Taking all the drops pre/post surgery. Not a huge con though.

The iridectomy in my right eye was too big and now I can see some white lines in the bottom of my vision. (they are in my left too but very minimal) A lot of people seem to experience the lines. Do some research.

Sometimes at night I have double vision....by that I mean I will see the yellow road lines, etc. ghost. It comes and goes and I am looking into ways to curb that.

PRICE. very expensive, at least for me it was.

Military will not let you JOIN after having the surgery but you can get it while you are in. (makes me as I was hoping to be an officer)

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Do it! I would recommend it. Especially if the army is going to pick it up. So far I am very pleased with my decision to go through with it. But research as much as you can and research the doctor that is going to do the procedure. Hope this helps, sorry for the length.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:04 AM   #70
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Thanks for the info. A few questions... What do you mean you see lines? Also you said you experience double vision and are looking into ways to correct it?
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:03 AM   #71
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One thing a lot of you scaredypants need to consider for PRK. While the healing process takes a bit longer than LASIK and your final eyesight might take up to a couple months (although being able to drive with your eyesight is a lot sooner, even w/ my crappy eyesight)....think about a couple months versus THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

I figured several weeks of non-20/20 eyesight, some dryness initially, and whatever side effects was well-worth it. A month after your eyesight hits 20/20 (or whatever you end up with), you'll think how silly it was to fret over a life changing event.

Is my eyesight worth $3k? Hell yes!

Is 2 months waiting for 20/20 worth it? Hell yes!

Are the risks worth it? Hell yes! (at least for me it was)

I don't have to wear contacts or glasses for many years to come. I'm so happy.
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Bump from the dead.

After having a contact flake out on me at VIR, Ive had this in the back of my mind for a while, but didnt want to swallow the cost. My insurance changes Jan 1 such that I get a pretty hefty discount on either lasik or PRK. Im really thinking about the PRK for the activity aspect.

How many people still have the occasional dryness or halo/starburst after 6-12 months? I figure the original thread was in 2010, so some should be able to comment on that.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:47 AM   #73
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Lasik 2005. Sight beyond sight still going strong.
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Bump from the dead.

After having a contact flake out on me at VIR, Ive had this in the back of my mind for a while, but didnt want to swallow the cost. My insurance changes Jan 1 such that I get a pretty hefty discount on either lasik or PRK. Im really thinking about the PRK for the activity aspect.

How many people still have the occasional dryness or halo/starburst after 6-12 months? I figure the original thread was in 2010, so some should be able to comment on that.


PRK! Your lifestyle? Definitely. Just factor in the healing time isn't as quick...but well-worth it.

I've never had halos or anything like that. When my eyes are fatigued, they do get a little less than 20/20...not sure if other folks that had perfect vision deal with that or not.

No out-of-the-ordinary dryness, even in winter.

The only complaint still is cutting onions. Dammit, contacts actually were great for that (no tearing up).
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So jelly. I'm a craptastic candidate for LASIK.
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