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03-17-2009, 01:20 PM | #26 |
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damn...have STI take offs but wife complains of harshness. if i have some money, these will have to go on next!
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03-17-2009, 05:26 PM | #27 | |
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03-30-2009, 07:15 PM | #29 |
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finally installed the epic springs on my 06 wrx this wknd..........i just have one reaction
they are absolutely superb.....i couldn't believe how much it dropped initially as I originaly thought itll drop a bit and then when it finally settles in, I'll see the full drop. I mean the amount my car has gone down, I was just stunned. I have the Sti lip so my front looks even lower. The ride is just awsome, I'll be anybody, most of my friends on go in my car reg wont even know i have springs on unless i tell them. I drove all over the place this wknd and went over the same roads I go always and there is absolutely no diff from the stock feel.......im one happy customer.......ill give it about a wk and then i'll post few pics. Dan and the guys at epic has done wonders by creating this awesome spring...... |
04-06-2009, 06:40 PM | #30 |
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I'm looking to get some of these in lieu of some prodrives, since those are all but extinct these days...
I've got some concerns: People seem to like the ride quality, which is good, but how about handling benefits? Is body roll lessened? How do the spring rates compare with prodrives, or heck, even stock springs? Also, is the drop too much? I'm looking for a level drop, but something fairly high because I don't want to be gaining positive camber the second I start cornering. Is the drop too low for a performance oriented purchaser to contemplate these springs? |
04-06-2009, 07:09 PM | #31 | |
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how about a ALK for added casters to help cope with the camber during sharp cornering. just springs alone cant maximize caster which is needed in our cars during sharp/hard corner. i believe if you liked the prodrives, these springs are just for you. |
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04-06-2009, 10:54 PM | #33 | |
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for now, I just want to get rid of this hideous 5 finger gap in the front...and before I decide on certain springs, I want to make sure they're not stupid low, so as to put me in a crappy part of the camber curve! and yeah, who has pics of these things installed?! |
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04-07-2009, 03:18 PM | #36 | ||
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mowgli29, The handling is significantly improved. The main response I get from customers is how the car now feels "energetic" and how the car has less body roll. These springs are slightly stiffer than the Prodrives but, the ride quality is very similar. The drop... We lower the car slightly more in the front then the rear. The wheel gaps will be even front and rear. As for the camber: Quote:
Kind Regards Dan Antonielli Last edited by EPIC Engineering; 04-07-2009 at 03:46 PM. |
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04-07-2009, 04:02 PM | #38 | ||
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IMO, your camber settings shouldn't be simply the bi-product of lowering your car (which is how that statement makes it sound), you should set the camber independently and according to your preference. That said, I understand the concept, I'm just not sure I agree with the approach. Here is my understanding: every car has a camber curve, that is, a curve representing the proportional relationship between the degree of camber and compression of the suspension. On our macpherson strut suspension, we don't have alot of compression travel before we get into the area of the camber curve at which point camber starts to go back to positive. IMO, the best approach would be setting adequate static camber, with a moderate drop, so as to remain in a decent portion of the camber curve. I'm looking for springs that do this, but will also even out the gaps. I don't need a huge drop so much as more level gaps front and rear. Correct me if I'm wrong, this is just speculation: It sounds to me like these springs might drop the car too far, out of the ideal portion of the camber curve, and the only way to somewhat-rectify the camber loss upon compression, is to set overly-aggressive static camber. Thanks for all your help! Josh |
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04-07-2009, 06:11 PM | #39 |
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Hey Epic, just had another thought.
Are there "bump steer kits" or "roll center kits" (ball joint and tie rod extenders?) available for the WRX? Sorry, I'm new to the WRX world My thinking is this: ball joint extenders would get the control arms closer to stock geometry, and we'd be in a much better area of the camber curve. BUT, you can't just add ball joint extenders without tie rod extenders. The two must travel the same path as the suspension compresses or there will be consequences, right? The extra cost of the roll center kit would be worth it if it meant I could have good looks AND proper suspension geometry! Thanks again, Josh |
04-07-2009, 06:22 PM | #40 | |
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If you haven't read their announcement thread, Dan and his engineers did work with Prodrive in the past, which speaks volumes for their suspension knowledge. If anyone knows what they're doing with Subaru suspension, it's going to be the guys that built Subaru's WRC race cars I'll shoot Dan an e-mail and let him know you have some more questions for him Armin |
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04-07-2009, 07:30 PM | #41 | |
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http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gd-suspe...-analysis.html read and learn. -2.5 camber too much for you? |
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04-08-2009, 04:34 PM | #43 | |
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Mowgli29, You seem to have very strong opinions on how a car should be set up. Our suspension is targeted to daily driver that would like a car that feels better, handles better, looks better, and is all around more fun to drive. I can assure you that our geometry is fine and you can read all the above reviews and comments for first hand experiences with our products. For you I would have to suggest a coilovers that you can set yourself. (They come with their own set of pros and cons) There are a lot of other variables to suspension***8230; Make sure you look at the big picture and not isolate single numbers. At the end of the day...it is about the feel of a road car...not just the numbers I am more than happy to continue our discussion but, this is a review thread. Please feel free to PM, E-mail, or start another thread***8230; Kind regards Dan Antonielli |
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04-17-2009, 10:54 PM | #44 |
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These look and sound great. Are they designed to work with the stock struts or would i eventually need an upgrade?
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04-18-2009, 01:03 AM | #45 | |
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04-23-2009, 02:29 AM | #47 |
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hey guys, its been about 3 weeks since i installed the epic springs......posting a before and after pic below to show the difference.....
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04-23-2009, 02:06 PM | #48 | |
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Great pictures! These are of the WRX Springs? How many miles has it been? Highways? Streets? ETC... Kind Regards Dan Antonielli Last edited by EPIC Engineering; 04-23-2009 at 02:07 PM. Reason: Took a closer look... |
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04-23-2009, 06:29 PM | #49 | |
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you can see urself on the pic, the car has the nose down look which is exactly what's mentioned on ur product description.......cudnt be any happier with ur product!!!! |
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04-24-2009, 06:43 PM | #50 |
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Well I was trying to decide between some springs and I think this post has helped convince me. Hopefully within the next week I will be purchasing a set of the Epic springs for my 06 WRX!!
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