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04-28-2003, 07:23 PM | #1 |
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June 2003 MotorTrend, STi vs Evo, 0-60 and 1/4 times
Just received my June MotorTrend, sorry, I don't have a scanner
(modified on april 30th) Link for the article: http://www.imprezawrxsti.com/postnu...b4edf1e4acfa243 Excellent review but for those 10 years old who said previously "I'm in a hurry to spank the Evo butts", you should review your position since both are in the same league for 0-60 or 1/4 times. YES, the STi have A LOT MORE goodies for the price but I just wanted to say that I don't like people here or on evolutionm.net trashing the STi or the Evo because IMO, they are similar. (And no, I won't have either of them STi or Evo. I'm a happy 03 Z06 and 03 A4 3.0 owner but wanted to share the specs with you folks). Both tested with the same driver... They found the Evo grippier with a little advantage in handling and braking and found the suspension more tuned and more agressive. Evo has a more agressive gearing. Said it's not 100% like-kind comparo since the STi was barely broken in. The STi is easier to live with on nasty road surfaces. STi is better for high speed Final comment: "WRX fans will lust after the STi, whatever the Evo can and can't do and vice versa... STi: They liked a lot the DCCD, comfortable sport seats, grips like spiderman, found bizarre there were no radio, understeered sooner than they thought. 0-60 -- 4.87 1/4 mile -- [email protected] Braking 60-0ft -- 111 Evo: 0-60 -- 4.59 1/4 mile -- [email protected] Braking 60-0ft -- 106 Sylvain
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04-28-2003, 07:30 PM | #2 |
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omg!!!!
13.08??? new record w/ stock Evos pls have people from EvoM to verify this ... must be a hand made press car J/K does that article mention anything about what octane fuel used? thx |
04-28-2003, 07:33 PM | #3 |
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I usually get my motortrend pretty early. Hopefully tommarrow . Which car has more horsepower
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04-28-2003, 07:36 PM | #4 | |
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04-28-2003, 07:43 PM | #5 | |
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04-28-2003, 07:52 PM | #6 |
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I'm sorry -
I haven't been one to trash the Evo (aside from the R!ceboy styling, but no car is perfect:-P) I think its a great car with a lot of history behind it.... But Right now My head is screaming "Ringer!" Shiv mentioned that the car SCC got was significantly Hotter than any other EVO he's seen. Now Motor Trend comes out and gives a 13.08 1/4 for the EVO, beating even the Best enthusiest time by a full second??? (According to evoM, Silencer (the guy who ran the 13.18) did so after deflating his tires and doing some "tricks" to the car he knew to keep it stock, but most people don't think of)... Excuse Me, something there is not adding up right at _ALL_... -Scott |
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evo runs faster times???????!!!!!!! i'm finding that very hard to believe.
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04-28-2003, 08:00 PM | #8 | |
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04-28-2003, 08:01 PM | #9 |
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97itr - A 13.18
Run By silencer over on EvoM, timeslips and pictures posted. -Scott *edit* Doh, you wanted trap speed hold on, I'll go try to find that timeslip |
04-28-2003, 08:02 PM | #10 |
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Did Subaru decide AGAINST imposing the May 1 press Embargo ?
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04-28-2003, 08:03 PM | #11 | |
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I was wondering the same thing.. Whats the point of May 1st press embargo if the mag reviews reached people in late April????? |
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04-28-2003, 08:07 PM | #12 |
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I think at this point (2 days to go) they can argue that it was the mail services fault... he said it was the June issue in question, that is technically well after the embargo.
Stats on Silencers run (taken straight off his timeslip) RT 1.005 60 1.776 330 5.406 1/8 8.410 @MPH 81.88 1000 11.003 1/4 13.185 @MPH 102.17 -Scott |
04-28-2003, 08:10 PM | #13 | |
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04-28-2003, 08:10 PM | #14 | |
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Re: June 2003 MotorTrend, STi vs Evo, 0-60 and 1/4 times
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Hmm. EVO 0-60 in 4.59? That's incredibly quick and a huge leap compared to the 4.9 and 5.0 sec times we have heard. Not to sound like a whimp but I wonder if that EVO was a "special" press car. I'll wait till all the mags make their comparisons till I get a final answer. Patiently waiting, Davis |
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04-28-2003, 08:14 PM | #16 |
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Silencer's car is special. Check all his slips.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...threadid=19954 |
04-28-2003, 08:19 PM | #17 |
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Yes, and now Motor Trend is broadcasting that the Lancer EVO, base, production car can run the 1/4 in 13.08 @ 105 and 0-60 in 4.59...
The more I think about it, the more pissed I am at MotorTrend (I never liked them all that much)... A little bit of research should have told them that they were dealing with a car that was FAR faster than anything else anyone was seeing... I dunno, I'll try to relax a bit until some of the other mags publish... -Scott |
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04-28-2003, 08:22 PM | #19 | |
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04-28-2003, 08:22 PM | #20 |
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It happens all the times, from all camps. Given that the initial impression tends to be the lasting one, even if Motor Trend "discovers" that it was a ringer, MMC will still reap the benefits of the positive press.
In all fairness, if Subaru had done the same thing, they would have gotten the exact same benefits. Cheers, Paul Hansen www.apexjapan.com |
04-28-2003, 08:26 PM | #21 |
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That motor trend time, compared to Silencer's, makes sense to me.
Silencer's best trap was a 104.56, not far off from MT's 105.1, and a different (better) driver could probably work out .1ths of a second from the Evo given a cold night. Looking at the traps and 1/4, the STI and the EVO are both right on par, I assume the STI has more weight than the EVO. -Ryan |
04-28-2003, 08:28 PM | #22 |
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Doesn't the STi need an extra shift to reach the 60 or 1/4 miles
than the EVO??? But that would mean STi's gearing is shorter than EVO... (which contradicts what magazine is claiming...) |
04-28-2003, 08:31 PM | #23 | |
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04-28-2003, 08:35 PM | #24 |
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Some points:
They weigh similarly. They have similar power outputs (STi has more). The STi has more advanced differentials which possible consume more hp to turn vs a simpler differential system (had EVO has an open front diff). The STi is also a 6 speed which means 1 more clutch in-shift-clutch out motion. I'd say either car is damn good. |
04-28-2003, 08:35 PM | #25 |
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Shiv already said they tested the STI faster than the EVO in the 1/4 even with the extra shift.
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