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Old 09-02-2008, 03:02 PM   #51
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/me is with Sideshowbob on this one. In fact, I'll go one further. I know of lots of single trails where a dirt bike barely fits between the trees and cliff. Quad simply can't go there.

Quads are fun, but to say a 400-800 pound machine 3 to 4 feet wide can go places a 150-300 pounds 2-wheeler can go makes me chuckle. Hell, I can pick up my bike and carry it over stuff. But of course, I ride a little dirt tiddler...

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Old 09-02-2008, 03:03 PM   #52
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Mini trikes FTW
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:04 PM   #53
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I know of lots of single trails where a dirt bike barely fits between the trees and cliff. Quad simply can't go there.

Quads are fun.
Agreed on both points.
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:05 PM   #54
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Mini trikes FTW

There was an ATC 200R for sale near me recently. Almost bought it.
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:28 PM   #55
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/me is with Sideshowbob on this one. In fact, I'll go one further. I know of lots of single trails where a dirt bike barely fits between the trees and cliff. Quad simply can't go there.

Quads are fun, but to say a 400-800 pound machine 3 to 4 feet wide can go places a 150-300 pounds 2-wheeler can go makes me chuckle. Hell, I can pick up my bike and carry it over stuff. But of course, I ride a little dirt tiddler...
Yep that is one downfall skinny trails, quads also have crap turning radius. They also suck when riding across a slope, not recommended.
On the plus side with a quad, as long as the trees aren't too big you can make your own trail and just run over trees that would knock you off a 2 wheeler. Pricker thicket? No problem.
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:32 PM   #56
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I raced a hare scramble once on a warrior and all i heard after the race was people on dirt bikes bitching about the guy on the 4 wheeler that was to slow and they couldn't get around. There was only one 4 wheeler
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:36 PM   #57
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I raced a hare scramble once on a warrior and all i heard after the race was people on dirt bikes bitching about the guy on the 4 wheeler that was to slow and they couldn't get around. There was only one 4 wheeler
If you are talking speed then there is no competition, it's bikes all the way. My quad is full locked 4x4 made for slogging through the mud and crawling up stuff, tops out around 45 which is plenty fast for where I go.
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:37 PM   #58
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We were doing it the unsafe way.

That said... I was sober enough and rode slow enough to feel comfortable with the danger level.
There is absolutely no line where you cross instantly from safe/reasonable to unsafe/unreasonable.

It's called the sphere of acceptable risk and it is different for EVERYBODY based on your experience, skill, fitness, knowledge, and... sense of adventure. If something is too risky for you, it is outside your sphere of acceptable risk. If something is not too risky for you, like maybe riding slow with no helmet, then it is inside your sphere of acceptable risk.

If you were operating inside your sphere then kickass - you had fun and didn't almost die
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:40 PM   #59
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If you are talking speed then there is no competition, it's bikes all the way. My quad is full locked 4x4 made for slogging through the mud and crawling up stuff, tops out around 45 which is plenty fast for where I go.
No i'm just slow, had nothing to w/the fact i was on 4 wheeler.
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Old 09-02-2008, 03:43 PM   #60
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Yep that is one downfall skinny trails, quads also have crap turning radius. They also suck when riding across a slope, not recommended.
On the plus side with a quad, as long as the trees aren't too big you can make your own trail and just run over trees that would knock you off a 2 wheeler. Pricker thicket? No problem.
We have a lot of formerly nice singletrack around here that has been turned into 2-track by *******s who figure "I can fit my quad up there"....
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:05 PM   #61
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There is absolutely no line where you cross instantly from safe/reasonable to unsafe/unreasonable.

It's called the sphere of acceptable risk and it is different for EVERYBODY based on your experience, skill, fitness, knowledge, and... sense of adventure. If something is too risky for you, it is outside your sphere of acceptable risk. If something is not too risky for you, like maybe riding slow with no helmet, then it is inside your sphere of acceptable risk.

If you were operating inside your sphere then kickass - you had fun and didn't almost die
Yes, but there's no good reason to ride without helmets, other than "we didn't bring our helmets."

You put it on and you're instantly much safer.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:15 PM   #62
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For shame, OT. For shame...



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Old 09-02-2008, 05:16 PM   #63
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Yes, but there's no good reason to ride without helmets, other than "we didn't bring our helmets."

You put it on and you're instantly much safer.
for sure... you could also wear a PFD to make sure you don't drown in the river
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:31 PM   #64
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Night time in the creek, good stuff.
Yesterday I replaced all the right side plastic that got torn up.
Glad you guys had fun, we need to do it again. I can't wait for snow!
Yeah sorry about that again. I didn't even see that vine till it was too late.

Let me know if you need compensation(Beer or otherwise)
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:37 PM   #65
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I had a blast riding in tropical storm Hana this weekend. This is one of the flooded trails.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:38 PM   #66
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mmm mud.

So much funs.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:01 PM   #67
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mmm mud.

So much funs.
About 50 ft off of that trail my neighbor just built a new mud pit where a tree fell. You know how the root ball leaves a big hole when a huge tree gets blown over. He got in there with his excavator and dug it all out. It is right on a small creek/ditch that only flows when it rains so it should keep it good and wet.
I get my new tires/rims tomorrow, can't wait to try it out.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:05 PM   #68
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Not to be Admiral Obvious, but make sure your air box is well sealed. Usually, from the factory, there is little or nothing in the seams, and water will seep in when they are underwater.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:12 PM   #69
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Last year I bought a Honda Big Red for $50 out of somebody's back yard. They threw it in the front yard with a for sale sign on it and I bought it on the spot. She's a badass little trike, tough as hell and starts right up. I just need to find a rear axle for it and it'll be good to go.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:17 PM   #70
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What the hell is this thread? Quad bikes? Who talks like that?
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:30 PM   #71
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What the hell is this thread? Quad bikes? Who talks like that?
We went through this on page 1, try to keep up.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:33 PM   #72
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are any of you guys the ass clowns who ride in circles for hours on the parcel behind my house?

knock it off already!
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:36 PM   #73
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Is that a 70cc? One of my friends used to have one of those. They were tons of fun, but I'm surprised one of us didn't seriously hurt ourselves on it. Jumping with no suspension FTL.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:49 PM   #74
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are any of you guys the ass clowns who ride in circles for hours on the parcel behind my house?

knock it off already!
Yeah. It's a long ride up from VA, but we do it just to piss you off!
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We went through this on page 1, try to keep up.
Yea, I just saw this thread. (obviously)

BTW, I wasn't aware you were from New Zealand... or Canada.
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