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Old 08-30-2003, 06:35 PM   #1
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Default TurboXS exhaust melted my bumper

Has anyone else had this problem?

I had installed the full turboback and the tip doesn't go out past the bumper.

Today at the race track + TurboXS turbo back = melted bumper.

Has anyone added a steel plate to protect the plastic at all?

Also when I downshift hard, about a foot and a half flame comes out.

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Old 08-30-2003, 07:46 PM   #2
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i just put mine on a couple hundred miles ago. no black residue yet. hopefully i won't experience the same problem, but if there is a metal plate made where can i get one?
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Old 08-30-2003, 08:36 PM   #3
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Scott (Supra98) has the RFL muffler and after a few sessions at NHIS his bumper too was melting.
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Old 08-30-2003, 10:14 PM   #4
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if someone w/ some metal skills could make a piece to fit in the half circle about the muffler i'd be happy to pay someone. i could probably do it myself, but if someone has some experience and could mold a piece of metal that will withstand the heat i'd really appreciate it. ~nick
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Old 08-30-2003, 10:32 PM   #5
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I would think the manufacturer would be responsible for repair costs, if you installed it correctly.
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Old 08-30-2003, 10:40 PM   #6
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Montreal STi

Failing that, could you just use some of the flexible insulator, such as commonly found in the engine bay of many cars? Remember what you had in your M3, that silver insulating blanket above the headers?
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Old 08-31-2003, 12:11 AM   #7
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yup... meltorama
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Old 08-31-2003, 02:59 AM   #8
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Default Re: TurboXS exhaust melted my bumper

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Has anyone else had this problem?

I had installed the full turboback and the tip doesn't go out past the bumper.

Today at the race track + TurboXS turbo back = melted bumper.

Has anyone added a steel plate to protect the plastic at all?

Also when I downshift hard, about a foot and a half flame comes out.

Thanks

Rob
Rob -

So sorry to hear about your damaged bumper. Hope you will be able to repair it nicely.

Perhaps it is my thick skull, but this still doesn't sway me away from my consideration for a TXS exhaust upgrade.

If you don't mind me asking... Where can I get TXS kits (TBE / TB Stealth) and get them installed professionally here in Canada??

Thanks,

-Rich
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Old 08-31-2003, 07:55 AM   #9
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you, my friend should get this http://subydude.com/parts/details.php?8
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Old 08-31-2003, 08:16 AM   #10
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you, my friend should get this http://subydude.com/parts/details.php?8
is there something out there that doesn't come over to the back of the bumper? also, maybe it's just me, but i don't feel a little piece of metal is worth $105.
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Old 08-31-2003, 08:28 AM   #11
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That is the concept of what I am looking for but not exactly that look. That piece looks pretty awful.
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Old 08-31-2003, 08:34 AM   #12
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That is the concept of what I am looking for but not exactly that look. That piece looks pretty awful.
so what can we do? i don't think that looks too bad, i was just looking for something more hidden. we need or someone needs to make something. i really don't need to have my bumper melted. MontrealSTi, see what u can do and i'll do the same. i may try and devise my own, but i don't have any experience w/ metals. someone please help!!!!
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Old 08-31-2003, 08:34 AM   #13
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How about this?
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Old 08-31-2003, 08:38 AM   #14
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japanparts has the same one as subydude for $51.17 before shipping. http://164.46.112.185/SubaruParts/ImprezaGDGG/Aero.htm
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Old 08-31-2003, 09:30 AM   #15
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Actually I met a guy at the racetrack who is a machinist and he told me he could make me something custom made for a good price in high quality stainless.

If anyone else sees a good product let me know, on my end I will see what I can do with this custom piece. If it's good maybe I can get it mass produced for other STi'ers out there

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Old 08-31-2003, 10:13 AM   #16
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Actually I met a guy at the racetrack who is a machinist and he told me he could make me something custom made for a good price in high quality stainless.

If anyone else sees a good product let me know, on my end I will see what I can do with this custom piece. If it's good maybe I can get it mass produced for other STi'ers out there

Rob
rob, that would be awesome. see what u can find out and let me/us know. ~nick
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Old 08-31-2003, 03:07 PM   #17
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I was thinking something along the lines of this might be useful.

I'm not sure that a fixed metal guard will work because it will absorb heat, not reflect it, and get just as hot, conducting that heat to the bumper it's attached to.


Insulator

This link also has a number of insulators, heat blankets, heat shields, etc:

more here

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Old 08-31-2003, 03:36 PM   #18
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i don't think it will look so great wrapping the tip of my muffler w/ some material. the rest of the exaust fine, but the tip is the problem and wrapping it just doesn't seem to be a great solution.
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Old 08-31-2003, 09:09 PM   #19
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Well given the choice between something that may not look great and a melted bumper, I'd probably pick the first. At least it's a cheap fix until a better solution is found. Also, it may be possible just stick some insulating mat on the bumper rather than the exhaust.

Other option might be if the exhaust tip (I have not seen it) had both an inner and outer piece, that way the outer piece could actually be insulated from the inner one, reducing heat transferred to the area of the bumper.

Also, if people do find a suitable looking bumper guard made of metal, I'd wonder if it could be designed in a way that actually installs as a replacable valence installed right into a cutout in the bumper, rather than a tack-on piece.

I'm wondering if anyone's contacted the muffler vendor and what they have to say about it, if anything. A small alteration in the tip design might be all that's required.
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Old 08-31-2003, 10:12 PM   #20
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Rob -

So sorry to hear about your damaged bumper. Hope you will be able to repair it nicely.

Perhaps it is my thick skull, but this still doesn't sway me away from my consideration for a TXS exhaust upgrade.

If you don't mind me asking... Where can I get TXS kits (TBE / TB Stealth) and get them installed professionally here in Canada??

Thanks,

-Rich
Check out Worldoneperformance.com They seem to have about the best prices on TXS stuff. I plan on getting this same exhaust for my WRX, but don't want to melt the bumper. A guy around here has a 2004 rex with the axleback RFL and isn't having any problems? Also, could you try different exhaust hangers. I bet Kartboy has some that might work.
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Old 09-01-2003, 01:45 AM   #21
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Check out Worldoneperformance.com They seem to have about the best prices on TXS stuff. I plan on getting this same exhaust for my WRX, but don't want to melt the bumper. A guy around here has a 2004 rex with the axleback RFL and isn't having any problems? Also, could you try different exhaust hangers. I bet Kartboy has some that might work.
Actually, I was hoping to find out if there which Canadian TXS distributor / installer (if he did indeed) MontrealSTi used...

But, I will check out Worldoneperformance.com. Thanks for the tip. I may, after all, have to order parts from them.

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Old 09-01-2003, 08:43 AM   #22
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i think a piece that fits right inside the cutout would be an easy make for someone with experience. basically, if my thinking is correct: 1) make a template out of paper or something flexible and easy to cut, 2) trace the template onto a sheet of metal, 3) cut the metal, 4) drill 3-4 holes in the metal, 5) place the metal piece on the bumper, 5) drill holes in the bumper to match the holes, 6) screw the piece down. too me it doesn't seem too tough. my only problem is cutting the metal since i have nothing to do it with. someone around has to have experience or know someone who does. i just don't know anyone around here so i'm kind of out on devising the metal piece.
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Old 09-02-2003, 06:45 PM   #23
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just want to get this back up to the top for everyone to see. please, if someone has or knows someone w/ metal experience let us know.
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Old 09-02-2003, 07:19 PM   #24
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I'm interested as well since I just ordered a turboxs axleback, and plan on getting the stealthback next. I know it's a relatively new muffler, but I'm wondering why noone else has complained about it thus far. I wonder if it happens more often during continuous track use compared to daily street use?

(sorry no metal fabrication skills here )
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Old 09-02-2003, 07:31 PM   #25
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I would like something as well. I have put 2000 miles on my car and it is only slightly discolored, but I have had zero track time. I do have a high flow cat installed.


That stainless bolt on contraption is hideous.

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