STi: TurboXS exhaust melted my bumper

MontrealSTi · 08-30-2003, 06:35 PM

Has anyone else had this problem?

I had installed the full turboback and the tip doesn't go out past the bumper.

Today at the race track + TurboXS turbo back = melted bumper.

Has anyone added a steel plate to protect the plastic at all?

Also when I downshift hard, about a foot and a half flame comes out.

Thanks

Rob

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STI 2 NV · 08-30-2003, 07:46 PM

i just put mine on a couple hundred miles ago. no black residue yet. hopefully i won't experience the same problem, but if there is a metal plate made where can i get one?

stumpz · 08-30-2003, 08:36 PM

Scott (Supra98) has the RFL muffler and after a few sessions at NHIS his bumper too was melting.

STI 2 NV · 08-30-2003, 10:14 PM

if someone w/ some metal skills could make a piece to fit in the half circle about the muffler i'd be happy to pay someone. i could probably do it myself, but if someone has some experience and could mold a piece of metal that will withstand the heat i'd really appreciate it. ~nick

STiBro · 08-30-2003, 10:32 PM

I would think the manufacturer would be responsible for repair costs, if you installed it correctly.

Mr. Grinch · 08-30-2003, 10:40 PM

Montreal STi

Failing that, could you just use some of the flexible insulator, such as commonly found in the engine bay of many cars? Remember what you had in your M3, that silver insulating blanket above the headers?

Supra 98 · 08-31-2003, 12:11 AM

yup... meltorama

rjhang · 08-31-2003, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MontrealSTi
Has anyone else had this problem?

I had installed the full turboback and the tip doesn't go out past the bumper.

Today at the race track + TurboXS turbo back = melted bumper.

Has anyone added a steel plate to protect the plastic at all?

Also when I downshift hard, about a foot and a half flame comes out.

Thanks

Rob

Rob -

So sorry to hear about your damaged bumper. Hope you will be able to repair it nicely.

Perhaps it is my thick skull, but this still doesn't sway me away from my consideration for a TXS exhaust upgrade.

If you don't mind me asking... Where can I get TXS kits (TBE / TB Stealth) and get them installed professionally here in Canada??

Thanks,

-Rich

STi Boy · 08-31-2003, 07:55 AM

you, my friend should get this http://subydude.com/parts/details.php?8

STI 2 NV · 08-31-2003, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by STi Boy
you, my friend should get this http://subydude.com/parts/details.php?8

is there something out there that doesn't come over to the back of the bumper? also, maybe it's just me, but i don't feel a little piece of metal is worth $105.

MontrealSTi · 08-31-2003, 08:28 AM

That is the concept of what I am looking for but not exactly that look. That piece looks pretty awful.

STI 2 NV · 08-31-2003, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MontrealSTi
That is the concept of what I am looking for but not exactly that look. That piece looks pretty awful.

so what can we do? i don't think that looks too bad, i was just looking for something more hidden. we need or someone needs to make something. i really don't need to have my bumper melted. MontrealSTi, see what u can do and i'll do the same. i may try and devise my own, but i don't have any experience w/ metals. someone please help!!!!

SubEd · 08-31-2003, 08:34 AM

How about this?

STI 2 NV · 08-31-2003, 08:38 AM

japanparts has the same one as subydude for $51.17 before shipping. http://164.46.112.185/SubaruParts/ImprezaGDGG/Aero.htm

MontrealSTi · 08-31-2003, 09:30 AM

Actually I met a guy at the racetrack who is a machinist and he told me he could make me something custom made for a good price in high quality stainless.

If anyone else sees a good product let me know, on my end I will see what I can do with this custom piece. If it's good maybe I can get it mass produced for other STi'ers out there

Rob

STI 2 NV · 08-31-2003, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MontrealSTi
Actually I met a guy at the racetrack who is a machinist and he told me he could make me something custom made for a good price in high quality stainless.

If anyone else sees a good product let me know, on my end I will see what I can do with this custom piece. If it's good maybe I can get it mass produced for other STi'ers out there

Rob

rob, that would be awesome. see what u can find out and let me/us know. ~nick

Mr. Grinch · 08-31-2003, 03:07 PM

I was thinking something along the lines of this might be useful.

I'm not sure that a fixed metal guard will work because it will absorb heat, not reflect it, and get just as hot, conducting that heat to the bumper it's attached to.

Insulator

This link also has a number of insulators, heat blankets, heat shields, etc:

more here

STI 2 NV · 08-31-2003, 03:36 PM

i don't think it will look so great wrapping the tip of my muffler w/ some material. the rest of the exaust fine, but the tip is the problem and wrapping it just doesn't seem to be a great solution.

Mr. Grinch · 08-31-2003, 09:09 PM

Well given the choice between something that may not look great and a melted bumper, I'd probably pick the first. At least it's a cheap fix until a better solution is found. Also, it may be possible just stick some insulating mat on the bumper rather than the exhaust.

Other option might be if the exhaust tip (I have not seen it) had both an inner and outer piece, that way the outer piece could actually be insulated from the inner one, reducing heat transferred to the area of the bumper.

Also, if people do find a suitable looking bumper guard made of metal, I'd wonder if it could be designed in a way that actually installs as a replacable valence installed right into a cutout in the bumper, rather than a tack-on piece.

I'm wondering if anyone's contacted the muffler vendor and what they have to say about it, if anything. A small alteration in the tip design might be all that's required.

INTEGRAtoWRX · 08-31-2003, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rjhang

Rob -

So sorry to hear about your damaged bumper. Hope you will be able to repair it nicely.

Perhaps it is my thick skull, but this still doesn't sway me away from my consideration for a TXS exhaust upgrade.

If you don't mind me asking... Where can I get TXS kits (TBE / TB Stealth) and get them installed professionally here in Canada??

Thanks,

-Rich

Check out Worldoneperformance.com They seem to have about the best prices on TXS stuff. I plan on getting this same exhaust for my WRX, but don't want to melt the bumper. A guy around here has a 2004 rex with the axleback RFL and isn't having any problems? Also, could you try different exhaust hangers. I bet Kartboy has some that might work.

rjhang · 09-01-2003, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by INTEGRAtoWRX

Check out Worldoneperformance.com They seem to have about the best prices on TXS stuff. I plan on getting this same exhaust for my WRX, but don't want to melt the bumper. A guy around here has a 2004 rex with the axleback RFL and isn't having any problems? Also, could you try different exhaust hangers. I bet Kartboy has some that might work.

Actually, I was hoping to find out if there which Canadian TXS distributor / installer (if he did indeed) MontrealSTi used...

But, I will check out Worldoneperformance.com. Thanks for the tip. I may, after all, have to order parts from them.

-Rich

STI 2 NV · 09-01-2003, 08:43 AM

i think a piece that fits right inside the cutout would be an easy make for someone with experience. basically, if my thinking is correct: 1) make a template out of paper or something flexible and easy to cut, 2) trace the template onto a sheet of metal, 3) cut the metal, 4) drill 3-4 holes in the metal, 5) place the metal piece on the bumper, 5) drill holes in the bumper to match the holes, 6) screw the piece down. too me it doesn't seem too tough. my only problem is cutting the metal since i have nothing to do it with. someone around has to have experience or know someone who does. i just don't know anyone around here so i'm kind of out on devising the metal piece.

STI 2 NV · 09-02-2003, 06:45 PM

just want to get this back up to the top for everyone to see. please, if someone has or knows someone w/ metal experience let us know.

INTEGRAtoWRX · 09-02-2003, 07:19 PM

I'm interested as well since I just ordered a turboxs axleback, and plan on getting the stealthback next. I know it's a relatively new muffler, but I'm wondering why noone else has complained about it thus far. I wonder if it happens more often during continuous track use compared to daily street use?

(sorry no metal fabrication skills here

)

Hummer · 09-02-2003, 07:31 PM

I would like something as well. I have put 2000 miles on my car and it is only slightly discolored, but I have had zero track time. I do have a high flow cat installed.

That stainless bolt on contraption is hideous.

08-30-2003, 06:35 PM	#1
MontrealSTi Scooby Newbie Member#: 38045 Join Date: Jun 2003	TurboXS exhaust melted my bumper Has anyone else had this problem? I had installed the full turboback and the tip doesn't go out past the bumper. Today at the race track + TurboXS turbo back = melted bumper. Has anyone added a steel plate to protect the plastic at all? Also when I downshift hard, about a foot and a half flame comes out. Thanks Rob * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

08-31-2003, 03:07 PM	#17
Mr. Grinch Scooby Newbie Member#: 34416 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Vehicle: 2002 BMW M3 Alpine White	I was thinking something along the lines of this might be useful. I'm not sure that a fixed metal guard will work because it will absorb heat, not reflect it, and get just as hot, conducting that heat to the bumper it's attached to. Insulator This link also has a number of insulators, heat blankets, heat shields, etc: more here Last edited by Mr. Grinch; 08-31-2003 at 03:13 PM.

09-02-2003, 07:31 PM	#25
Hummer Scooby Specialist Member#: 31892 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: KC Vehicle: 2004 STi Silver	I would like something as well. I have put 2000 miles on my car and it is only slightly discolored, but I have had zero track time. I do have a high flow cat installed. That stainless bolt on contraption is hideous. Last edited by Hummer; 09-06-2003 at 10:17 AM.

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STI 2 NV Scooby Specialist Member#: 31748 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Upstate NY Vehicle: '19 WRX STI Series.Gray	i just put mine on a couple hundred miles ago. no black residue yet. hopefully i won't experience the same problem, but if there is a metal plate made where can i get one?

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stumpz Scooby Specialist Member#: 3348 Join Date: Dec 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Injun Country Vehicle: 2013 Polo TSi Red	Scott (Supra98) has the RFL muffler and after a few sessions at NHIS his bumper too was melting.

08-30-2003, 10:14 PM	#4
STI 2 NV Scooby Specialist Member#: 31748 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Upstate NY Vehicle: '19 WRX STI Series.Gray	if someone w/ some metal skills could make a piece to fit in the half circle about the muffler i'd be happy to pay someone. i could probably do it myself, but if someone has some experience and could mold a piece of metal that will withstand the heat i'd really appreciate it. ~nick

08-30-2003, 10:32 PM	#5
STiBro Scooby Newbie Member#: 39546 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Fountain, CO Vehicle: 2010 WRX Sedan Blue	I would think the manufacturer would be responsible for repair costs, if you installed it correctly.

08-30-2003, 10:40 PM	#6
Mr. Grinch Scooby Newbie Member#: 34416 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Vehicle: 2002 BMW M3 Alpine White	Montreal STi Failing that, could you just use some of the flexible insulator, such as commonly found in the engine bay of many cars? Remember what you had in your M3, that silver insulating blanket above the headers?

08-31-2003, 12:11 AM	#7
Supra 98 Scooby Newbie Member#: 27812 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Framingham Vehicle: 2004 STi NESIC TrackH0z # 28	yup... meltorama

08-31-2003, 07:55 AM	#9
STi Boy Scooby Specialist Member#: 3401 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: NC/SC Vehicle: 2018 BMW M2 Mineral Ghey	you, my friend should get this http://subydude.com/parts/details.php?8

08-31-2003, 08:28 AM	#11
MontrealSTi Scooby Newbie Member#: 38045 Join Date: Jun 2003	That is the concept of what I am looking for but not exactly that look. That piece looks pretty awful.

08-31-2003, 08:34 AM	#13
SubEd Scooby Guru Member#: 717 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC	How about this?

08-31-2003, 08:38 AM	#14
STI 2 NV Scooby Specialist Member#: 31748 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Upstate NY Vehicle: '19 WRX STI Series.Gray	japanparts has the same one as subydude for $51.17 before shipping. http://164.46.112.185/SubaruParts/ImprezaGDGG/Aero.htm

08-31-2003, 09:30 AM	#15
MontrealSTi Scooby Newbie Member#: 38045 Join Date: Jun 2003	Actually I met a guy at the racetrack who is a machinist and he told me he could make me something custom made for a good price in high quality stainless. If anyone else sees a good product let me know, on my end I will see what I can do with this custom piece. If it's good maybe I can get it mass produced for other STi'ers out there Rob

08-31-2003, 03:36 PM	#18
STI 2 NV Scooby Specialist Member#: 31748 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Upstate NY Vehicle: '19 WRX STI Series.Gray	i don't think it will look so great wrapping the tip of my muffler w/ some material. the rest of the exaust fine, but the tip is the problem and wrapping it just doesn't seem to be a great solution.

08-31-2003, 09:09 PM	#19
Mr. Grinch Scooby Newbie Member#: 34416 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Vehicle: 2002 BMW M3 Alpine White	Well given the choice between something that may not look great and a melted bumper, I'd probably pick the first. At least it's a cheap fix until a better solution is found. Also, it may be possible just stick some insulating mat on the bumper rather than the exhaust. Other option might be if the exhaust tip (I have not seen it) had both an inner and outer piece, that way the outer piece could actually be insulated from the inner one, reducing heat transferred to the area of the bumper. Also, if people do find a suitable looking bumper guard made of metal, I'd wonder if it could be designed in a way that actually installs as a replacable valence installed right into a cutout in the bumper, rather than a tack-on piece. I'm wondering if anyone's contacted the muffler vendor and what they have to say about it, if anything. A small alteration in the tip design might be all that's required.

09-01-2003, 08:43 AM	#22
STI 2 NV Scooby Specialist Member#: 31748 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Upstate NY Vehicle: '19 WRX STI Series.Gray	i think a piece that fits right inside the cutout would be an easy make for someone with experience. basically, if my thinking is correct: 1) make a template out of paper or something flexible and easy to cut, 2) trace the template onto a sheet of metal, 3) cut the metal, 4) drill 3-4 holes in the metal, 5) place the metal piece on the bumper, 5) drill holes in the bumper to match the holes, 6) screw the piece down. too me it doesn't seem too tough. my only problem is cutting the metal since i have nothing to do it with. someone around has to have experience or know someone who does. i just don't know anyone around here so i'm kind of out on devising the metal piece.

09-02-2003, 06:45 PM	#23
STI 2 NV Scooby Specialist Member#: 31748 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Upstate NY Vehicle: '19 WRX STI Series.Gray	just want to get this back up to the top for everyone to see. please, if someone has or knows someone w/ metal experience let us know.

09-02-2003, 07:19 PM	#24
INTEGRAtoWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 13931 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ohio Vehicle: 02 WRX 13 Boss 302	I'm interested as well since I just ordered a turboxs axleback, and plan on getting the stealthback next. I know it's a relatively new muffler, but I'm wondering why noone else has complained about it thus far. I wonder if it happens more often during continuous track use compared to daily street use? (sorry no metal fabrication skills here )