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Old 05-07-2021, 05:28 PM   #5051
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About like people who have given up on society. With no shame to express it.
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Old 05-07-2021, 05:30 PM   #5052
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I wonder how much more effective vaccines are now than the 1800s. I doubt people back then worried and weighed the possible side effects versus dying or losing the ability to walk. But hey, Covid is just a bad flu that's killed over three million worldwide and a lot of those numbers are made up because the libs wanted to make Trump look bad.
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Old 05-07-2021, 06:03 PM   #5053
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I wonder how much more effective vaccines are now than the 1800s. I doubt people back then worried and weighed the possible side effects versus dying or losing the ability to walk. But hey, Covid is just a bad flu that's killed over three million worldwide and a lot of those numbers are made up because the libs wanted to make Trump look bad.
Might want to look up the 1918 pandemic. Tons of propaganda on that. Dip**** poison is literally reiterating 100 year old propaganda.
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Old 05-07-2021, 06:12 PM   #5054
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Might want to look up the 1918 pandemic. Tons of propaganda on that. Dip**** poison is literally reiterating 100 year old propaganda.
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Old 05-07-2021, 07:45 PM   #5055
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I wonder how much more effective vaccines are now than the 1800s. I doubt people back then worried and weighed the possible side effects versus dying or losing the ability to walk. But hey, Covid is just a bad flu that's killed over three million worldwide and a lot of those numbers are made up because the libs wanted to make Trump look bad.
They had bigger fish to fry back then.

Like, making sure the crop survived the summer so they could survive the winter.

Or, making sure non-whites didn't get all uppity and start thinking they were deserving of basic human rights.
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Old 05-07-2021, 07:46 PM   #5056
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Anti-vaxxers can shove it
Why? Can you tell me what the 5 year, 10 year, and 30 year safety prognosis is? BTW, 1:11,000.



Vaxxers can shove it.



See how dumb you sound, now?
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Old 05-07-2021, 10:34 PM   #5057
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Shove what? The plunger on the syringe?
The barrel into their mouths hopefully. That infection rate is slow low the virus could be wiped out. If we lived in a country with adults.
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Old 05-07-2021, 11:27 PM   #5058
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Something I deal with at work a lot is telling people the output of a program will only be good if you have good incoming data. So it’s a bit of a pet peeve.

Let’s look at Iowa. Currently near 17% positivity. I’ll allow 30% asymptomatic. And per the source in the graphic, transmission is closer to 59%. Per another study in Germany, there was lower rates of asymptomatic transmission, but in their tracking it was nearly 75% people who were presymptomatic, or not yet showing symptoms. Let’s use the lower number since I’m not trying to mislead people here.

So, if my numbers work out, it’s actually a hell of a lot closer to 1:33 or 3%. Now, local to me it’s 5% positivity, so my odds are closer to 1:100. My odds now that I have the vaccine? Probably well beneath that 1:11,000 number that got tossed out there, but I don’t feel like finding a source. Close enough to 0 that I’m not worrying about it.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...tm_term=010721

Now if you don’t mind, I’m clocking back out and will probably come back in a while just to make sure nothing has changed.
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Old 05-08-2021, 06:33 PM   #5059
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No long term side effects of the vaccine reported so far, but the effects of getting COVID are very well documented.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...218-6/fulltext
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Old 05-08-2021, 09:20 PM   #5060
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No long term side effects of the vaccine reported so far, but the effects of getting COVID are very well documented.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...218-6/fulltext
VAERS calls bull****.

Itt 'long term' = 6 months lol.
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:16 AM   #5061
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No, because I'm not. What I understand better than most here, is seems, is risk assessment, the interplay between 'safety' and 'comfort/convenience/enjoyment', and that is NOT 'one size fits all'. If it was up to me, I'd lock clients in a bunker and never let them out: LOOK, 100% secure! My job is done! But that's no way to live, and so my job is helping clients find a balance.

You've chosen your balance, your comfort level throughout this, as you should. The problem is you've tried to force me to live in your bunker with you, and I'm not ok with that.

-.
Point out some of my posts where I told people how to act cockface. I don't eve call you wrong, I don't tell you not to post, I don't cate that you are wrong about almost everything you claim to be right about. (Here where you say know my feelings, and that I just can't admit it publicly that it's clear I care.) I just point out when you post unsubstantiated misinformation, and your reading comprehension is at 6th grade level. You can't tolerate a stranger, that you think is an idiot, all you a name n the Internet. You can't just let someone be wrong. And then you claim the MADE you retaliate. WTF? Your a ****ing adolescent.

But it's clear you don't understand the constitution or freedom. It's sad and and embarrassing. you call your self military. You are just militant douchenozzle.

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Old 05-09-2021, 09:37 AM   #5062
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He has zero humility so what you are asking for won't happen.
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:42 AM   #5063
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He has zero humility so what you are asking for won't happen.
No ****.
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:57 AM   #5064
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No ****.
IMO it's embarrassing now...he's so disliked yet he keeps at it. It's unhealthy.
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:26 PM   #5065
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IMO it's embarrassing now...he's so disliked yet he keeps at it. It's unhealthy.
It’s not even that he’s disliked. He’s an irritant, sure. But disliked? That would imply we care enough to to give a ****.

It’s not him, it’s the stupid **** that endangers others that we care about.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:02 PM   #5066
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It’s not even that he’s disliked. He’s an irritant, sure. But disliked? That would imply we care enough to to give a ****.

It’s not him, it’s the stupid **** that endangers others that we care about.
He's the reason that stupid, false and ignorant **** exists, though.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:32 PM   #5067
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Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll travel to India to tell them all to stop pretending to be sick, and that their number of cases isn't supported by his statistics.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:35 PM   #5068
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Only the most "independent" minds, never change.

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Old 05-09-2021, 02:36 PM   #5069
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From the British pamphlet you get when vaccinated. Why are they admitting it, and our health care isn't? Money.
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Old 05-09-2021, 03:05 PM   #5070
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From the British pamphlet you get when vaccinated. Why are they admitting it, and our health care isn't? Money.
http://www.healthscotland.com/documents/42836.aspx

https://www.ulh.nhs.uk/content/uploa...ne-leaflet.pdf

I didn't even read through the ones I posted in detail, just skimmed, but I'm pretty sure the garbage you posted is either fake or maybe something from the clinical trials before they know if the vaccine would be effective. Either way, your a real piece of **** for spreading that stuff around like the rest of your "data".

Where did you get that anyway?

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Old 05-09-2021, 03:45 PM   #5071
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Dated February...a lot of studies have been done since then...but it has a red arrow on it is therefore legit.
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http://www.healthscotland.com/documents/42836.aspx

https://www.ulh.nhs.uk/content/uploa...ne-leaflet.pdf

I didn't even read through the ones I posted in detail, just skimmed, but I'm pretty sure the garbage you posted is either fake or maybe something from the clinical trials before they know if the vaccine would be effective. Either way, your a real piece of **** for spreading that stuff around like the rest of your "data".

Where did you get that anyway?
It looks like the original came from here:
https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5...20_Leaflet.pdf


the "UK Medical Freedom Alliance".

This is their "patient information leaflet"
https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5...nformation.pdf

And their website:
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In a nutshell they are not fans of the vaccines or masks and collect and disseminate fringe data.

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The UK Medical Freedom Alliance is run by a team of medical professionals, academics, scientists and lawyers, aided by a growing panel of experts in the fields of science and medicine, who support our campaign, and who provide the UKMFA with advice and analysis of the latest scientific evidence and data.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:20 PM   #5073
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They are still using just the flu arguments.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:46 PM   #5074
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I could muster an ounce of respect for these people if it was at least some sort of a grift.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:55 PM   #5075
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They are still using just the flu arguments.
flu? I remember that!
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