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Old 07-31-2019, 07:14 AM   #1
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So I've been looking at turbos as it's the last thing I need before I make the 400whp jump on my car as I just finished building my motor almost 3k miles ago. I've come across the Red recommended by IAG performance due to its new design and quicker spool time. However, I've also heard that the Blue has quick spool time too. What would you guys recommend? Also I do plan on buying a Ball Bearing unit in whichever one I get.
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Old 07-31-2019, 11:57 AM   #2
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So I've been looking at turbos as it's the last thing I need before I make the 400whp jump on my car as I just finished building my motor almost 3k miles ago. I've come across the Red recommended by IAG performance due to its new design and quicker spool time. However, I've also heard that the Blue has quick spool time too. What would you guys recommend? Also I do plan on buying a Ball Bearing unit in whichever one I get.
Last I looked the jb red was old tech compared to the other offerings..... If youre doing jb look at the green vs the red. I forget if blue Will get you 400 but the jb green isnt much more and it's a fun street turbo... I've heard the blue is as well.
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:25 PM   #3
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Interested in responses, in a few weeks I’m having FP Blue installed, the last step on my build...currently making ~300WHP on 93 and ~345 on E69 tune

Builder expects 400 on 93 and could probably hit 500 on E85 but ID1,300 injectors may max out before 500. Doesn’t matter for now though because I’m on stock 5MT soooo, ya, I don’t want 500whp till 6 speed swap!

Will post dyno graph week of the 19th once I get it back. I’ve heard nothing but good things about fp blue, it’s just not super popular? Yet?
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:05 PM   #4
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Blue, 57lbs
Green, 61lbs
Red, 64lbs

For a reference point my friend made 420whp on his green on pump 92 so both the green and red WILL get you over 400whp on pump. Not as sure the blue will without pushing things more than I would personally like.


Of the options listed I would go with the Blue, from what I have seen it works VERY well. Then again though there are a LOT of other options in that size range I would consider.


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Interested in responses, in a few weeks I’m having FP Blue installed, the last step on my build...currently making ~300WHP on 93 and ~345 on E69 tune

Builder expects 400 on 93 and could probably hit 500 on E85 but ID1,300 injectors may max out before 500. Doesn’t matter for now though because I’m on stock 5MT soooo, ya, I don’t want 500whp till 6 speed swap!

Will post dyno graph week of the 19th once I get it back. I’ve heard nothing but good things about fp blue, it’s just not super popular? Yet?
They will "max out" @500whp on stock base pressure roughly, I am at 95% IDC on my 1300's on my car (500whp 129mph trap's). Good luck squeezing that out of a blue.


The blue is just falling into a tough size category that competes with some hard hitters IMO. I like the blue but what I have seen from that new G25-660 and the stock location GTX3071 I would have a hard time not getting one of those two options.
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Old 07-31-2019, 07:56 PM   #5
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Blue, 57lbs
Green, 61lbs
Red, 64lbs

For a reference point my friend made 420whp on his green on pump 92 so both the green and red WILL get you over 400whp on pump. Not as sure the blue will without pushing things more than I would personally like.


Of the options listed I would go with the Blue, from what I have seen it works VERY well. Then again though there are a LOT of other options in that size range I would consider.




They will "max out" @500whp on stock base pressure roughly, I am at 95% IDC on my 1300's on my car (500whp 129mph trap's). Good luck squeezing that out of a blue.


The blue is just falling into a tough size category that competes with some hard hitters IMO. I like the blue but what I have seen from that new G25-660 and the stock location GTX3071 I would have a hard time not getting one of those two options.
Thanks for sharing...what turbo are you running? 129mph traps?? Damn, sweet! What times are those?

About the 500whp numbers on FP blue, they were ballpark estimates and I don't have goals going into it: They will tune the car w/whatever parts are on it, and give it a good/safe tune. Final numbers? I don't care as long as it is a safe tune haha. My tuner is VERY good, he wont chase numbers/try to squeeze too much out of it. My bad if I made it appear I WILL get X power out of the blue. Only time will tell, soon enough haha... Also, I don't know what I want to limit the power/torque at right now because stock 5MT. It seems I can almost pick what my final numbers will be in advance because of not WANTING to squeeze everything out of the turbo/car. I'm already decided on the blue, if that is what my builder and tuner keep recommending (they have had a lot of success w/them) then I yield to their expertise. Also, don't want to drive myself crazy with more research!
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Old 08-01-2019, 03:45 AM   #6
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Depends on all your mods. Size injectors what fuel you want to be running. If your running e you'll probably get around 400 with the blue with a nice spool. If you do a search for fp blue on here I have my Dyno chart posted. That on e
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:06 PM   #7
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Just for fun and reference..
FP Blue, ID1000's w/stock top feed rails and tgv deletes, running 93 pump.
EL header's, catless up-pipe, STI tmic, Cobb XLE bpv, catless DP, 3" catback.
06 WRX 5mt with blast plates.
Stock ej255(06 wrx)
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394whp/402wtq..
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Old 04-11-2020, 07:47 AM   #8
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i made 520whp 495 ftlbs (mustang dyno) on E70 with an FP Red @ 28psi. An FP Blue will not make 500whp.
Maybe 460Whp (dynojet) maxed out

please notice the comparisons on dynos i mentioned
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Old 04-11-2020, 08:45 AM   #9
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Anything over 350whp 350wtq expect to start seeing 5mt issues within due time.
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Old 04-18-2020, 01:14 PM   #10
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Just for fun and reference..
FP Blue, ID1000's w/stock top feed rails and tgv deletes, running 93 pump.
EL header's, catless up-pipe, STI tmic, Cobb XLE bpv, catless DP, 3" catback.
06 WRX 5mt with blast plates.
Stock ej255(06 wrx)
Mild tune..
394whp/402wtq..
How much boost needed for 394/402? Dynojet or mustang dyno? Did you max out the maf sensor?
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Old 04-18-2020, 01:19 PM   #11
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How much boost needed for 394/402? Dynojet or mustang dyno? Did you max out the maf sensor?
I'm running 24psi on 93 pump..
70mm APS CAI and SD.. AEM map sensor..

Haven't made it to the Dyno, yet. That's a virtual Dyno, graph.
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Old 04-30-2020, 06:52 PM   #12
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So I've been looking at turbos as it's the last thing I need before I make the 400whp jump on my car as I just finished building my motor almost 3k miles ago. I've come across the Red recommended by IAG performance due to its new design and quicker spool time. However, I've also heard that the Blue has quick spool time too. What would you guys recommend? Also I do plan on buying a Ball Bearing unit in whichever one I get.
I have the older version of the FP Red on my 207. I love it - the lag (spools mid 4's) The newer version of the Red is supposed to spool 3=400 r's quicker.
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Old 05-21-2020, 04:36 PM   #13
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Anything over 350whp 350wtq expect to start seeing 5mt issues within due time.
I think you have to be pretty rough on the 08+ trans. I'm making a little over 500whp with 22psi/80% Ethanol on an fp xr zero, and my clutch will go out before my transmission.
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Old 07-20-2020, 04:55 PM   #14
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Im currently running an fp red on e85. 1300cc inj and still tmic. Made a little over 500whp on 26lbs
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Old 07-23-2020, 11:31 AM   #15
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I'm running a FP Blue on 93 pump , 1200 cc injectors and 4in tmic making 400 whp. I love the FP Blue
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Old 08-05-2020, 03:36 PM   #16
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FP Blue here, in a ‘13 WRX with IAG Stage 2 TUFF and upgraded fuel lines, pump, etc.

322 WHP / 305 TQ. This is limited because of my WRX 5MT that I haven’t upgraded yet (with a Competition Clutch Stage 3).

It spools hella fast and is super fun to drive, but until I get a better tranny I won’t know how much power I’ll eventually get out of it.

I think the Blue is great for a daily driver, if that’s what you’re looking for.
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Old 08-05-2020, 03:59 PM   #17
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FP Blue on Ignite with Id 1300's

Made 410whp on a 2018 EJ with 175 degree IAT's, Process West TM. Mustang Dyno
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Old 08-11-2020, 01:19 AM   #18
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How do you embed images? I recently tuned an old school FPred non antisurge and wanna post a virtual dyno graph.
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Old 08-16-2020, 05:56 PM   #19
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My FP Red, 28 psi, E71 (Mustang Dyno)
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Old 08-16-2020, 06:20 PM   #20
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My FP Red, 28 psi, E71 (Mustang Dyno)
What size injector are you running.
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Old 03-06-2021, 08:56 AM   #21
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2011 STI piston only motor
FP Blue
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Catless downpipe
Exhaust is fully wrapped with DEI wraps

93:
14psi 304/277
19psi 347/332
E71:
16psi 339/330
21psi 401/388
Low torque and conservative maps per my request. We also ran out of injector by 401whp. It could have made more with bigger injectors.
Spool is like stock. I can’t tell the difference.
I really like the fact that my low boost map on 93 is like a stage 2 but at 14psi instead of 18-19psi.
Great turbo for a DD and track.

The Red is more for big power and has a higher boost threshold. It’s in a different league IMO. I’d like more power but that’s just the slippery slope of “I want more”. I'll stick with the blue and not have to deal with the delay in spool time.

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