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Old 09-09-2020, 11:56 PM   #1
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Default Camber plates for tokico d spec

Have an 03 wrx currently running tokico d specs on OEM tophats and would like to upgrade to camber plates. Have done a bit of reading, found the forum from 08 where TiC and Rce talk about the v1 rce plates and the whitelines. Dont want the whitelines and not sure if a set of v1 rce plates will pop up. Does anyone know of camber plates that will work on the d specs?? Not looking for OEM style but actual plates, would also like to maintain travel like the rce's did. Figure it's been a few years there might be some more options out there but not finding any clear information, any help would be appreciated
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Old 09-11-2020, 03:30 AM   #2
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Likely there are less options now that the '03 is 17 years old. Performance parts typically have a fairly short production lifespan. I'd call RCE, IAG, or MAP to ask about options. They are all good vendors and have a lot of experience.
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Old 09-11-2020, 10:33 AM   #3
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The RCEs do pop up in the classifieds occasionally, I managed to find a set this way. But they're likely to need bearings, and it's not something RCE keeps parts in stock for.

There were a couple different types that were similar: RCE and HVT.

There were versions for GD and GR+. Both have the same bolt pattern, but different clocking. You may be able to make the GR ones work by switching sides and canting them, I'm not sure.

RCE also had a "lowering" and "non lowering" plate. The "non lowering" had stock stack height, and the "lowering" raised the bearing (lowering the vehicle) about 3/8"~10mm IIRC.


As far as other options.

Whiteline Com C is stock stack height, but limited adjustability - not slotted, you have to rotate them between the 3 top mount holes.

Ground Control has great adjustability and to quote their ad "Adds extra travel to avoid excessive bottoming out." This is the one I would lean towards today https://groundcontrolstore.com/colle...of-strut-tower

Another thing you can try is to look at BRZ tophats, which are the same hole pattern and look pretty close to the same clocking.

One I'd take a good look at is the Verus engineering camber plate which claims to retain stock ride height (The BRZ uses the same stock tophat as the GD) https://www.verus-engineering.com/sh...z-frs-gt86-349

another that might work is the Raceseng CasCam, but it looks like it might raise the car slightly.

There's also a Ground Control for the BRZ that looks pretty extreme, and might touch the hood on a GD.
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Old 09-11-2020, 07:21 PM   #4
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I, and I use that lightly as I am referring to I as in TiC now own the rights to the HVT plates. When HVT folded they owed me quite a chunk of cash. The drawings, models, and manufacturing sources were the payoff.

I have not made any due to concern of the need for them any more. The original manufacturers required minimum runs that would tie up a rather large sum of cash, and the risk was if we had missed the opportunity on selling those. Afterall, you don't really hear much talk about them any more. At least not like in the old days.

So the end result is they were tabled.... indefinitely until I could find a small batch run solution to "test the waters."

With that being said I have a very close friend who literally just picked up a 4-axis mill (he's pretty strong to pick it up. HAHA!! Friday afternoon Dad jokes!!).

He and I were discussing how the heck he's going to justify paying for said mill, and while we do have a number of ideas (including some brand new, never before seen projects) I brought up that we could do a small run of the HVT plates. Afterall, I have all the drawings, I have all the models, and for the parts we can't make (such as the bearings) I have the sources.

So that project has been added to the list, and once said friend gets everything set up, calibrated, and needs to start paying for the thing we can approach this project.

When is that going to be? Honestly, I have no idea, BUT it is on our list.

Now, I know that this doesn't help you in your current situation, BUT I'm posting this up here to fill you guys in on what happened to the HVT plates, and perhaps answer this question for others who may run across this thread.
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Old 09-12-2020, 01:07 PM   #5
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One thing to note about the ground controls is that they use a pretty different bearing setup that I don't think will work with a standard spring and perch, only their provided ones for straight coilover springs.

They're good top mounts though.
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Old 09-14-2020, 06:59 PM   #6
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Likely there are less options now that the '03 is 17 years old. Performance parts typically have a fairly short production lifespan. I'd call RCE, IAG, or MAP to ask about options. They are all good vendors and have a lot of experience.
It's been a few days since last checking in here, busy cleaning engine bay getting ready for drop in. Just gonna respond to you guys as I go, see theres a bunch of info. I have talked to Myles at rce through email, didnt turn up much but still need to contact other vendors or maybe some of this info will help
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Old 09-14-2020, 07:22 PM   #7
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The RCEs do pop up in the classifieds occasionally, I managed to find a set this way. But they're likely to need bearings, and it's not something RCE keeps parts in stock for.

There were a couple different types that were similar: RCE and HVT.

There were versions for GD and GR+. Both have the same bolt pattern, but different clocking. You may be able to make the GR ones work by switching sides and canting them, I'm not sure.

RCE also had a "lowering" and "non lowering" plate. The "non lowering" had stock stack height, and the "lowering" raised the bearing (lowering the vehicle) about 3/8"~10mm IIRC.


As far as other options.

Whiteline Com C is stock stack height, but limited adjustability - not slotted, you have to rotate them between the 3 top mount holes.

Ground Control has great adjustability and to quote their ad "Adds extra travel to avoid excessive bottoming out." This is the one I would lean towards today https://groundcontrolstore.com/colle...of-strut-tower

Another thing you can try is to look at BRZ tophats, which are the same hole pattern and look pretty close to the same clocking.

One I'd take a good look at is the Verus engineering camber plate which claims to retain stock ride height (The BRZ uses the same stock tophat as the GD) https://www.verus-engineering.com/sh...z-frs-gt86-349

another that might work is the Raceseng CasCam, but it looks like it might raise the car slightly.

There's also a Ground Control for the BRZ that looks pretty extreme, and might touch the hood on a GD.
Have been scrolling the classifieds and other places hoping for a set of
RCE's but who knows if that will happen. Just now learning of the HVT and will have to look into those as well as the ground control.

As far as the Whitelines, havent heard nice things about them.. rather not risk it.

And the brz route if one of these options dont work out will also have to look further into that
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Old 09-14-2020, 07:33 PM   #8
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I, and I use that lightly as I am referring to I as in TiC now own the rights to the HVT plates. When HVT folded they owed me quite a chunk of cash. The drawings, models, and manufacturing sources were the payoff.

I have not made any due to concern of the need for them any more. The original manufacturers required minimum runs that would tie up a rather large sum of cash, and the risk was if we had missed the opportunity on selling those. Afterall, you don't really hear much talk about them any more. At least not like in the old days.

So the end result is they were tabled.... indefinitely until I could find a small batch run solution to "test the waters."

With that being said I have a very close friend who literally just picked up a 4-axis mill (he's pretty strong to pick it up. HAHA!! Friday afternoon Dad jokes!!).

He and I were discussing how the heck he's going to justify paying for said mill, and while we do have a number of ideas (including some brand new, never before seen projects) I brought up that we could do a small run of the HVT plates. Afterall, I have all the drawings, I have all the models, and for the parts we can't make (such as the bearings) I have the sources.

So that project has been added to the list, and once said friend gets everything set up, calibrated, and needs to start paying for the thing we can approach this project.

When is that going to be? Honestly, I have no idea, BUT it is on our list.

Now, I know that this doesn't help you in your current situation, BUT I'm posting this up here to fill you guys in on what happened to the HVT plates, and perhaps answer this question for others who may run across this thread.

Welllll wasnt even aware of the HVTs before today so definitely have to look Into them but you might be the right person for the job. This isnt a super immediate thing, the car doesnt even have a engine in it yet. Maybe a few more weeks till shes back on the road again hopefully, but not sure what kind of time frame you're talking about. Definitely have a few more options to look into now
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Old 01-18-2021, 01:03 PM   #9
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Bumping this thread. RCE posted recently on their IG that they have the original style lowering camber plates in stock for both GD and GR-VA fitments...

I'm half tempted to pick up another set to hang on to
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