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Old 01-29-2004, 11:14 AM   #151
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Default update on CEL

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It would be a good idea to get the car scanned somewhere else so you can find out exactly what codes are being set and post them here. That way we can give you a better idea of what the problem might actually be. ...
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The dealer told me that the previous codes were 70/71, all related to O2 sensor. The NEW CEL code is 042... bad catalytic converter. He's replacing that this week..

ok, so was it a bad CC all along... or is something causing the problems that makes O2 sensors and the CC go bad???

My email to Subaru brought the response "we'll work with your local dealer on this", which meant they called him and asked him why he hadn't fixed the problem.

Duh.

Because he DOESNT KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS!

And apparently, neither does Subaru
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Old 01-29-2004, 09:52 PM   #152
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When you post codes it helps to have the entire code- i.e. P0420 for catalyst inefficiency. The codes will be in a "PXXXX" format and that's what you should get from whoever scans it.
It's possible for the converter to fail on its own with no other problems being present, this does happen. It's also possible that there is an underlying issue that caused the cat to go bad, such as something that is causing the engine to misfire, run lean or run rich- all things that can stress the converter.
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Old 02-03-2004, 08:13 PM   #153
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Code: P0170-Fuel trim malfuncion & P1325-Knock Sensor Circuit Low Input

Umm... What do these mean? I've been throwing them for a good week and a half and my car has been very very sluggish...

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Old 02-05-2004, 04:45 PM   #154
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The dealer said mine was a read of first cylinders 2 and 4 misfire, then all cylinder misfire. Wonder what that's all about. The car runs fine etc.
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Old 02-08-2004, 02:49 AM   #155
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Thumbs down P0304 - Cylinder 4 misfire

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I got the misfire codes on my 00' RS on 3 and 4- I reset about 3 times and they would come back every 2 or 3 days-replaced the ignition wires and it hasn't come back in 2 weeks. I got Magnecor KV85's since they are the same price or cheaper than OEM subaru wires. If you have an ohm meter, pull the wires and check continuity on them, (should read a few thousand ohms) My #3 wire was open internally, and since 3 and 4 share a common coil with wasted spark, this was my problem. Also, check your coil pack secondaries resistance across 1-2 and 3-4 (should also read a few thousand ohms) If 1-2 and 3-4 are not within say 20% of each other, you MIGHT have damage to your pack. Testing the coil primaies depends on wether yours is 3 terminal or 4 terminal IIRC. Hope this helps- Andy

Andrew,

It would help, excepting that I've replaced my plugs, wires AND coil, and I've had the CEL return again and again. It's been on solid now for a good couple of weeks. Car seems to run fine, except for a bit of a burning smell. Related? Don't know. (I actually made some comments in another fellow's post about a P0302 he's getting: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...53#post5640553 )

With my car, I got the CEL, and figured it was old plugs & wires. I found oil in a sparkplug chamber. Blown valve gasket I guess.
Replaced that and the plugs/wires, but the CEL came back. Long story short, after that the coil was swapped, then a compression test plus an injector cleaning service.

Very frustrating. This is approaching two months. I have an Email in with SoA, to some higher-up in the Email department, but who knows...

FYI, I've always used stock plugs and wires. NGK copper
#BKR6E-11, of course.

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Old 02-09-2004, 12:19 AM   #156
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How did the compression test turn out? Might possibly be an issue with the knock sensor?
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Old 02-09-2004, 08:27 PM   #157
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Hehehe My EG33 has never thrown a CEL... Had it for over 2 years now and never seen it come on... Except for the times that I start the car.... I love the EG33, so reliable!!!!
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:11 AM   #158
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Andrew,

Supposedly it's "perfect." Has all the right figures and everything...

What concerns me are a few factors:

- The CEL, for the first few weeks, would stay on for a couple days, then off for one. Give or take. Then, for a couple weeks straight it stayed on; I do a lot of driving, including a 90-minute round-trip work commute, five days/week. Except that two days ago it shut off, but then back on again today. Strange...

- I can smell something burning when the car's idling. Sometimes while driving, but usually at idle when it warms up. Can't describe the smell, other than it smells like something's burning...
Almost a clutch smell... (My clutch IS old and being replaced soon by an Exedy Sport, but I can't see a connection.)

- This first started when I found the oil in a sparkplug chamber.
Something tells me that's where the problem remains... but I'm not sure where or how. I have no idea how long the oil was in there; my last plug change was somewhere around 60k, and I changed these plugs around 97k (NGK coppers, OE wires). But I didn't get a CEL until a day or two before the plug swap.........


I just want to find SOMEONE who can help me. Do you suppose I should Email Prodrive? Maybe they could help....

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Old 02-10-2004, 10:32 AM   #159
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After replacing my fuel injector the car ran fine for about a month and then the CEL came back on, could feel the missfire this time above 3,000 rpm. Replaced coil pack. 3 weeks and everything is OK. 2002 WRX wagon with 41,000 miles.
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Old 02-17-2004, 09:22 PM   #160
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I threw a P0138 today. (O2 sensor circuit high voltage, bank 1 sensor 2). two days ago I installed a turboback exhaust and the haward & scott P0420 delete fix.

searched all over the forum, but it appears as though no one else is throwing the code. Any ideas?

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Old 02-20-2004, 12:14 PM   #161
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UPDATE: P0138 fix

Two nights ago, I pulled apart all the connections between the hayward & scott (scoobysport) cel fix and the ecu, and carefully cleaned and resoldered all the connections. Also sanded down the grounding point just to make sure of a metal-to-metal contact. Ive put 140 miles on the car since then and haven't gotten a cel yet. Turns out I might have just had a dirty connection somewhere, which would increase the resistance in the circuit and drive up the voltage (V=IR?). So. Lessons learned:

1. make sure connections are CLEAN before soldering. Hand oils and other car related gunk may fubar up your splicing job. Wearing gloves while soldering helps.

2. make sure your soldering iron is powerful enough. I used a 25 watt iron at first that had trouble melting the solder, this might have resulted in a cold joint that didnt conduct very well. The iron has to be powerful enough to heat the WIRES (not the solder) to a point that melt the solder when you feed the solder onto the connection. A 40 watt iron will work fine.

3. pray.


Hope this helps. Have fun guys.


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Old 02-20-2004, 03:46 PM   #162
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All true, EP.

Another thing that makes solering much better and *enjoyable* is real good solder. Plain jane Kester rosin core is kind of resistant to wetting and doesn't have real good flow characteristics. It also will make a cold joint if you aren't real good.
WBT or WonderSolder is incredible stuff. It's 4% silver, and made for high-end audio apps, but it is a dream to use on everything. Parts Express sells the WBT schtuff, and while it costs a little bit more, it's worth it, IMO. You would have to try real hard to make a cold joint, and it flows like that liquid metal crap on Neo in The Matrix.

Even someone who has never soldered before can do a great job with this.

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Old 02-20-2004, 10:45 PM   #163
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Angry AH CRAP.

welp. looks like I was wrong. Got a cel today. Same code. I have no idea what to do now.

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Old 02-24-2004, 03:57 PM   #164
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Code P1442

Can't find it listed anywhere, but the code reader said Manufacturer control emissions something...

I can't find that code anywhere on the forums.

Searching google:
P1442 Evap System Purge Valve Blocked Fault
P1442 Secondary Air Injection System Monitor circuit High Voltage.
P1442 Evaporative Emission Control System Leak Detected

Ideas?
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:36 PM   #165
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Code P1442

Can't find it listed anywhere, but the code reader said Manufacturer control emissions something...

I can't find that code anywhere on the forums.

Searching google:
P1442 Evap System Purge Valve Blocked Fault
P1442 Secondary Air Injection System Monitor circuit High Voltage.
P1442 Evaporative Emission Control System Leak Detected

Ideas?
I threw that same code today as well, I am trying to figure out what it is. It came in conjunction with a P0122. The guy at autozone said it was a Manufactorer Control Auxilliary Emission or something like that.
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:37 PM   #166
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interesting...perhaps it's the weather!
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:42 PM   #167
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interesting...perhaps it's the weather!
Ive had 2 of these before but they cleared themselves before I could get the code pulled. It has not been as cold lately as it was when I threw the codes before, Im hoping it is the weather though, if not I have no idea what to do.
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:43 PM   #168
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Code: Defintion: P0122 & P1442
Year/Make/Model: 00 RS
Mileage: 55000
Fix for problem:I Have no idea.

Could this possibly be due to the weather? I have searched and have not been able to find anything on either of these codes.
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Old 02-24-2004, 06:48 PM   #169
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I think that is the code for your vent solonoid valve. You will most likely need one. I only have the book for the STI at home. There is no P1442 for the 04, however there is a P1443 that is for the solonoid valve. I would have to double check the proper year service manual for your car.

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From my thread here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...postid=5791826
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Old 02-25-2004, 05:53 PM   #170
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Here is a webapge with all of the OBD 2 codes for any Subaru.

http://home.earthlink.net/~opiewho1/...obd2_codes.htm
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Old 02-25-2004, 07:47 PM   #171
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It looks like I might have found to solution: P1442: Fuel Level Sender/Sub Sender problem, you may have to replace those parts

Im gonna take it in to a shop when I get the chance.
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well, I've been only running the car on 3-5gal of fuel at a time...that may have tripped it...perhaps I'll start filling it up to the top again.
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well, I've been only running the car on 3-5gal of fuel at a time...that may have tripped it...perhaps I'll start filling it up to the top again.
Same here. I just dont have the money, nor do I drive enough to keep it full all the time.
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Old 02-27-2004, 02:38 AM   #174
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Car: 1999 Impreza Outback Sport Wagon
Engine: EJ22 MAF, Single-port, SOHC
Mods: Throttle-body Mod, Removed Snorkus
Miles: 109,300mi
Code: P0170-Fuel trim malfuncion & P1325-Knock Sensor Circuit Low Input

Umm... What do these mean? I've been throwing them for a good week and a half and my car has been very very sluggish...

Thanks
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Okay... I've done a few things which have helped the cause... My car is now running at around 85-90%.
-Flushed coolant
-Changed oil/filter
-New Spark Plugs
-New Wires
-Reset ECU
-Went back to stock exhaust (not really related)

The car drove for 4 days without interferance but the CEL came back. It's been on for another 10-14days again I need to go get it read again to see if it is the same thing... Any suggestions? Advice? Very sparatically, my car feels very quick - I actually ran a 0-60 of under 9.0s which I have never done w/ the good ol OBS (record to date was 9.3 )... But 90% of the time, my car is driving more like 9.8-10s 0-60 ...

Oh, I'm also at around 110,700mi. now.

I NEED SOME HELP!

Thanks
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Old 03-01-2004, 05:36 PM   #175
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Code: P1443
mods: underdrive pulley, ganzflow intake, prodrive axle back.

-CEL appeared while I was driving on highway w/ CC on (that's when I noticed it anyway). I had filled the tank the day before w/ 89 octane. Gas cap was tightened but not "clicked" tight. I live 1.5 hrs away from dealership, so I just cleared code & I'll wait to see if it comes back.
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