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06-09-2021, 01:16 PM | #76 | |
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And, luckily for us, we have ways of removing the "driver mod" from the equation. I'm thinking purely from an "all else equal" standpoint regarding twins versus other platforms. Mod for mod, an evo will kill a twin. So will basically every other sport-oriented car on the face of the earth save for a few cars like the WRX. Pretty sure even the turbo 4 brostangs, when equally modded, would do it in.
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06-09-2021, 02:07 PM | #77 |
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Then go buy a 2022 Evo instead of a Twin.
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06-09-2021, 02:13 PM | #78 |
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That's ultimately the point.
Is the BRZ (new or old) an amazing sports car? No. Is it almost unique as an affordably priced, focused, quasi-practical, RWD performance car? Yes. What new car that's similarly priced offers better performance in a similarly sized package? I'd love it to offer 100 more HP, but that car doesn't exist. |
06-09-2021, 02:20 PM | #79 |
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It's an amazing sports car given my low expectations. Is it a great value? That's up to the buyer to decide. A Supra 4 bang is a much quicker car, but it's also more money and weight and doesn't have rear seats. So apples oranges comparison.
I would like something to slot between the twins and the 4 bang Supra. There's a huge price gap there. |
06-09-2021, 02:25 PM | #80 | |
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I'd take a BRZ/86 with the eventual sport package over the Supra-4 after hearing about that. |
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06-09-2021, 02:28 PM | #81 |
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If Mazda would release a Miata Coupe (not the RF.. a lightweight tin top) and drop the price accordingly, it would ruin the Twins' value proposition for a track day car.
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06-09-2021, 02:35 PM | #82 | |
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Where the BRZ shines is in its sporty/practical mix. The rear seats aren't huge but small back seat >> no back seat in a car you actually use for daily stuff. I think the older BRZ (at least) looks a lot better than the Miata as well. |
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06-10-2021, 04:09 PM | #83 | |
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06-11-2021, 01:23 AM | #84 |
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It gets the tingly tingled.
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06-11-2021, 06:25 AM | #85 |
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Look how it keeps up with that Supra!
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06-11-2021, 11:18 AM | #86 |
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Ryan Tuerk was sliding that ass
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06-11-2021, 12:21 PM | #87 |
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Agreed. There's huge scope for a car that's (1) slower, (2) lighter and smaller, and (3) cheaper than a Camaro SS 1LE. The BRZ is a little down market for me, but something in that vacant space would be pretty appealing to me.
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06-11-2021, 12:26 PM | #88 |
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While I'm not surprised it happened, I wasn't quite aware that the 2jz fits pretty perfectly under the hood of the brz/86 and swap kits are readily available...
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06-11-2021, 01:01 PM | #89 |
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06-11-2021, 02:21 PM | #90 |
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06-11-2021, 02:26 PM | #91 | |
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I'm not in a financial position right now to take it to the track either. So I'm kind of stuck in a car that I only get a taste of its potential here and there but cannot truly enjoy it anywhere. But that's an issue with any high performing car these days. For a lot of us they're too fast for the street and too expensive for the track. That's kind of the role I see for the BRZ/86. I wouldn't get rid of my RS for one, but if I was doing it all over again I'd think hard about what I really want. They seem like fantastic little street cars, something you can have fun in every day, and then take to the track and go fast but not break the bank. |
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06-11-2021, 03:47 PM | #92 |
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06-11-2021, 04:43 PM | #93 |
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I prefer the GR 86 taillights over the BRZ taillights.
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06-11-2021, 05:06 PM | #94 |
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Looks so much better than the Supra.
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06-11-2021, 10:21 PM | #95 |
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06-12-2021, 08:38 PM | #96 | |
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They're awesome little cars and I love the concept, but living where I do, where it's flat and everything is on the grid system, there's nowhere I could really enjoy a car like this without driving at least an hour out of town. I'm hoping the first gens crater in value and I can pick up one cheap as a toy. |
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06-12-2021, 10:37 PM | #97 |
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I think a used BRZ Limited for close to $10k would be a great purchase if I were just going to modify it anyway. Crawford Performance engine or such, just get something strong and ready for FI, then build the suspension and body however you want. Tons of body kits and wheel options out there.
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06-13-2021, 02:08 PM | #98 | |
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I think some conjure up images of someone WFO, top speed the vehicle is capable of, carrying so much corner speed you barely make the corner with the wheels chirping. Nah. I’d say on the track I’ll go up to 8 or 9 tenths. Probably 8/10ths. The street I never go past 7/10ths. You have to develop a different way of riding/driving than the track, but it’s a blast. With radar detector, and away from the mass population you can really have some fun. My roads if I make some bonhead mistake it’s me and a ditch. Not another motorist around. If you really can’t enjoy the vehicle anywhere sell it in this market. You’ll get an extra 4, 5, or 10k. |
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Not really worth arguing about
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