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06-08-2021, 01:21 PM | #52 |
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dont rotate your tires! you dont want to, so its that simple. lol
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06-08-2021, 02:07 PM | #53 |
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If the tires are wearing evenly all around, then you are right. There wouldn't be anything gained by rotating tires. But this thread doesn't assume that. The question is whether it is better to rotate your tires every 5k miles as recommended by the manufacturer or to rotate them on a schedule so each tire is on each corner of the car 1/4 of the life of the tires.
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06-08-2021, 06:07 PM | #54 |
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The easiest way to prevent the tires from rotating is to set the handbrake and place the car in 'P'.
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06-09-2021, 12:24 PM | #56 |
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Not true. What this thread tells me is that no one in here can come up with a good reason to rotate tires which will last 30,000 miles every 5,000 miles instead of every 7,500 miles.
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06-09-2021, 11:33 PM | #57 |
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Or every 10,000 miles. You are correct. With good alignment and moderate driving you definitely don't need to rotate tires every 5K. On my truck it's probably more like every 11K, and I've had no uneven wear on the tires.
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06-10-2021, 09:38 AM | #58 |
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yup, you have proven you know everything, so just do what you feel like. there has been plenty of reasons/evidence provided you, you just dont want to hear it.
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06-10-2021, 01:05 PM | #59 | |
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The rotation schedule is recommended because, on average, it covers the bases for the majority of people who drive like the majority of people do (the majority of people being those who don't check tread depth or wear patterns). Much like an oil change schedule, it's a general recommendation. Technically, you only "need" to change your oil when it breaks down and the speed of that breakdown is heavily dependent on how much strain is on the engine (you have different loads on a track vs a commuter, for example). Could you get away with longer? possibly. Do some people need to do it more frequently? probably. In fact, if you look around in other areas on this forum, you'll also find people who do oil changes much more frequently than the recommended time because they prefer the peace of mind that it provides to do an, ultimately, low cost bit of maintenance. For most of the other people on this thread, it costs very little in time and effort to rotate them and gives us a measure of peace of mind. It sounds like you have a lot more difficulty with the tire rotation and that's not something anyone on this thread can address but yourself. It can be argued how much benefit it gives until the cows come home, but if you go beyond the recommendations and encounter an issue, then you have nobody to blame but yourself. If you don't have issues, then there's nothing to complain about and you can feel proud of your gains, however much or little they are. In the end, there's no 100% evidence that you HAVE to rotate at 5,000 miles in EVERY situation, which seems to be what you are looking for. |
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06-10-2021, 01:36 PM | #60 | |
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I have summer and winter setups. I used to mark which were up front so I know to put them in the rear the next season but I stopped doing that. When it was time for the swap, I just measure the tread depth and throw the ones with more up front. Once they are beyond the minimum tread depth, I buy new. To me, the concern should be more about tread depth difference than actual mileage before rotation or targeting a certain "mileage life" of your tires. For the latter, you just don't know the actual mileage before you have to buy new. So why not just make sure tread depth differences is within tolerance? And hence why most in this thread is recommending closer to 5K than 7.5K. If rotating based on mileage, then doing it at 5K would be more on target in maintaining small tread depth differences than at 7.5K. |
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06-11-2021, 01:37 AM | #61 |
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I don't know everything. I am open to being shown I am wrong. But no one in here has come up with a good reason for tires which will last 25,000 or 30,000 miles, they should be rotated every 5,000 miles. True, if the delta between front and rear approaches 2/32", then perhaps the tires should be rotated more often. But we already did the math and with tires which go from 10/32" to 4/32", the front would have to wear at greater than 2 times the rear. And someone in here who is far more knowledgeable about cars than I am said if there were such a wear difference, that would be a sign of worse problems.
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06-11-2021, 10:50 AM | #64 | |
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Your point is about tire life. My point is about tread depth difference. You'll rotate your tires to a hypothetical goal of 30K miles while I'll rotate my tires based on actual, measurable tread depth differences. To each his own. Best way to make your case is with data. Keep us updated as you rotate every 7500 miles. |
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The bill is 30 bucks Each guy gives the bartender 10 bucks A few minutes later the bartender comes back and said she screwed up and the bill is only 25 bucks She has 5 one dollar bills in her hand The three guys say to the bartender give us each one dollar back and you keep the other two This means they originally gave ten each and got one back so they spent nine each Nine times three is 27 Plus the two bucks the bartender kept is 29 How did we start with 30 bucks ? |
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In 18 years on this forum I can't remember a screwed up diff from uneven tires. Some towing issues, but not from tire wear. Does not mean it never happened. I imagine most people do some measure of rotation which is good enough. And maybe they get rid of the car before issues arise, but still don't hear about people buying used subies and having to fix diffs. Therefore, do whatever rotation you feel comfortable with.
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3 x 9 = 27 = 25 (the bill) + 2 (the tip) Very clever way of confusing what is where. Krzy***347; |
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