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04-30-2014, 05:15 PM | #51 |
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If the buttons looks the right shape for your steering wheel and the white plug is the correct shape (I think they can be 8, 10 or 12 wires) you should be good to go. My buttons were from another year and model and work fine. Colour matches too, even the lights.
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04-30-2014, 05:18 PM | #52 |
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Has anyone managed merging the pins of the harness from the cruise-control only panel with the factory installed satellite control harness? I'd love to save the waste of tossing the original satellite pad, but I don't want to end up with flaky connections in the harness. It looks like the wires slide in and secure with a spring action, but unless there's exposure to release the pin by pressing the springed section, it can be a real mess to extricate them from the harness.
If anyone has replaced the factory satellite control and is willing to experiment with it to see if you can get the wires out intact with the metal connector, I'd appreciate hearing about it. It would be great info for the thread I think since it saves about $50 and eliminates wasting the original pad. |
05-01-2014, 02:45 AM | #53 | |
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05-05-2014, 02:27 PM | #54 | |
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So I'm guessing the connector that's used for the satellite control inspection/testing also has some connections that supply power for the backlight or something like that on the cruise control keypad. In any case, it seems like you should be able to get the same functionality using the existing satellite keypad and the cruise only keypad if you just join the common wires in the 12-pin connectors with something like these. Anyone have thoughts? My impreza isn't due in till June, but if this hasn't been figured out by then I'll try to experiment to add to this awesome thread. Ha, unless there's been a firmware change or something to thwart this since mine was made...yikes, that's my only worry! |
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05-05-2014, 02:46 PM | #55 |
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I was also confused - if the base impreza has the satellite keypad and NOT the cruise control keypad, why doesn't there seem to be a part available in that configuration? The diagram seems to show satellite+cruise, and cruise only, but not satellite only. The blanks are available for both sides of the steering wheel. Hmm...
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05-07-2014, 07:25 PM | #56 |
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I think the common wires will be red and black which power the lights in the buttons. I think it would be easier to cut those and splice rather than mess with the plug (I tried and it is very tricky to get the wires out). Alternatively just go without lights in the CC switch.
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05-12-2014, 11:24 AM | #57 | |
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05-13-2014, 01:32 PM | #58 |
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Can someone confirm the part number for just the right side steering wheel cruise control pad. I do not want the dual pad.
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05-17-2014, 03:47 PM | #59 |
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06-16-2014, 10:34 AM | #61 |
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what if you just buy a premium steering wheel and replace your base model one. Will the cruise control work?
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06-20-2014, 01:23 PM | #62 |
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I have a 2014 Base Impreza CVT 5 Door that I'm trying to add cruise control to, I need to retain the Volume and handsfree controls on the left side. Can I just buy the Cruise Keyboard or do I need to get the Cruise and Handsfree keyboard?
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06-21-2014, 11:01 PM | #63 | |
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On another note, I'd like to share my experience and bring up a problem I've encountered with my ECM after installation: I have a manual 2014 2.0i Impreza. I installed the part and it looked like everything was working fine, the button was responding just normally. Only now it seems that my ECM is malfunctioning. The traction control light is on, the hill-lock light is on, and the ABS light is on. The car is running fine and the audio/satellite controls work just fine, but the cruise control buttons don't work at all. I cannot get the lights to go off either. I tried to do a "reset" of the ECM by disabling the negative battery lead and pumping the breaks a few times but that didn't help. It seems the car didn't "learn" itself back either, because after driving about 10 miles it was still lit up. Anyone have this problem or have any suggestions on how to fix it? I don't know why it would have worked when I first installed it but then had problems a few hours later. I don't want to have to take the airbag off again for the 5th time (I did it a lot because my steering wheel became misaligned twice). I'm afraid that if I have to take it back to the dealership to get checked out that they'll charge me for it since the problem came from me doing work on it. I don't want to have to install the old unit again (I also did that to see if it fixed the ECM issues, but it didn't). It seems that I'm the only person who hasn't gotten this to work for them on this forum. Also, I found it was much easier to remove the airbag by NOT using the side holes, but to instead to remove the bottom one, which is the easiest, then get real low under the steering column, shine a light up, and find the perfect angle to find the wire to release the airbag. Using the holes was pretty much impossible and like stringing a needle blinded. |
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06-23-2014, 06:34 AM | #64 | |
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06-23-2014, 01:01 PM | #65 |
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This thread is full of win!!! Can't wait to do this!
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06-27-2014, 04:20 PM | #66 |
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Bender did you ever get this figured out? Finally got delivery on my impreza so I'm getting ready to try this, but your experience makes me a little nervous...
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06-30-2014, 02:16 PM | #67 |
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I'm concerned with Bender's problem too. I have bought the audio and cruise controls, but never heard of this issue before. It is amazing how every dealer I've contacted, maybe a dozen, says it isn't possible to do. Can they all be that ignorant, or is that what they're told to say?
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06-30-2014, 02:29 PM | #68 |
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I'm wondering if it is what they are told to say, because its a good bump in sales price to the next trim level. I am very interested to find out though as well. Haven't purchased anything yet, but this is high on my to do list for my base model.
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06-30-2014, 06:02 PM | #69 |
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I had noticed something in the service manual about resetting a wheel angle sensor but didn't pay much attention, but then I noticed this thread discussing doing this type of mod on older wrx: http://www.wrxforums.com/forums/17-3...ontrols-4.html
Toward the end of that thread they talk about possibly damaging the angle sensor, and someone talks about it affecting the hill assist light, etc. I think benderhune's problems could be something to do with the angle sensor. Still trying to figure out exactly where it is and how the problems might be happening, but the thread talks about trying to do this without disconnecting the airbags to avoid the issue....hmm... |
06-30-2014, 06:25 PM | #70 |
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The "midpoint setting" procedure that's mentioned in the service manual when taking off the steering wheel involves connecting "subaru select monitor to data link connector" and running through some menus. Seems to basically set a baseline for the sensor reading to correspond to neutral steering position.
benderhune talks about taking off the wheel a couple of times because of misalignment, so wonder if that's what triggers this - maybe powering up when it's misaligned makes the system think the sensor is bad because it's not reading an angle that agrees with what's expected based on other steering position sensors?? Just mad guesses... |
07-01-2014, 10:07 AM | #71 |
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I'm all for DIY, but does this void any current warranty? For $275, you can get it installed at a dealer. I know the parts are roughly $170 new...
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07-01-2014, 10:34 AM | #72 |
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The thing is the dealer will tell you that the ECU is not wired for cruise control on the base Impreza so installing cruise is not possible (as previously mentioned in the thread). However, many have found this to be false and installing the proper control board and switches in the steering wheel is all that is required. Plus you can get the right parts for $130 with around an hour for the install. Sounds like money and time well spent to me.
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07-01-2014, 10:49 AM | #73 |
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I would guess as a dealer service center, they basically have a menu of install options available from the manufacturer that they offer. Individual service departments can't reasonably keep track of all the permutations of upgrades available for all trim levels and model years, so I would think they'd have to rely on Subaru to tell them what's possible. In this case, I think Subaru is the real culprit. There was a marketing choice that "you can't put cruise control in the base model" to push sales to the premium trim model, and since the dealer benefits from that arrangement they have no reason to explore beyond that edict. At the same time, there seems to have been a manufacturing choice that it's cheaper to just provide the same ECM system across trim models and simply not plug in a part that costs the manufacturer $25 or so in order to meet the marketing requirements.
When I wanted a base model with manual transmission, there were none available at the dealers in a multi-state region around me. I think there is enough demand on sales, that dealers won't put a base model with manual on the lot when higher cost models sell through immediately anyway. But for those of us that don't mind waiting and don't drink the kool-aid, there may be rewards. |
07-03-2014, 12:26 AM | #74 | |
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07-03-2014, 11:32 AM | #75 |
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I'm having the same issue with the traction and ABS lights popping up while driving which disables the cruise control functions. I am constantly turning the car off and back on while driving to reset and allow me to use it.
What I am noticing is it works fine with cruise and all until I press the brakes. It doesn't always enable the lights when pressing the brakes, but after 2-3 times they will emit and disable the cruise control function. I plan to unplug the battery to reset the ecu. If that doesn't work, I'll remove the steering wheel and check the wheel angle sensor. |
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