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09-09-2020, 11:31 AM | #76 | |
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09-09-2020, 01:15 PM | #77 |
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Nope, big mistake on Acura's part. The Type-S has the same feature set as the A-Spec. You can't get the Advance Package features on it. Maybe in Canada, but not US. Not a good move on Acura's part for a $55,000 car.
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09-09-2020, 01:19 PM | #78 |
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I hate the way Acura does packages. There are way too many and they interact too much with the ability to combine interior and exterior colors.
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09-10-2020, 12:15 AM | #79 |
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The car already seems dead before it's even got here. I can't seem to find any sedans i like under $50k new. They all seem the same and almost all are auto trannys.
Buying used just never seemed viable at that price range (although the largest parts of depreciation have already happened) mostly because I worry about maintenance cost taking up the majority of money you saved. Just at 60k in my 2015 wrx and i need brakes, rotors, rear strut, spark plugs, fluid changes, etc |
09-10-2020, 08:11 AM | #80 | |
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09-10-2020, 08:31 AM | #81 | |
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I'm sure you can pull most of the mod parts off your current WRX and use it on the new. The refresh STI's have some minor changes where I read about cat/axle backs not fitting or something. I would get bored of cars like the TLX/IS after the honeymoon period. I like the new shape of the 2021 IS350 though.. but I'll probably get bored of it so I am going to look at the RC-F. |
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09-14-2020, 08:10 PM | #82 |
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I think the embargo is lifted on the 28th, so will know more then. Seeing some of the vids floating around, the interior looks nice, love the flat bottom wheel in the ASpec.
I just think the interior could have been just a tad simpler. And by that, I mean like the interior of a volvo or alfa giulia. I just love clean simple approaches to designs. Can't wait to hear the driving reviews. --kC |
09-27-2020, 08:44 AM | #83 |
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Performance embargo has been lifted. Starting at 3:55 here for a reason, they're driving the ASpec and not the TypeS yet. Hopefully they get the shifting and spooling a little more synched up, or this could be an issue with sales if thinking 'performance sedan"...
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09-27-2020, 06:34 PM | #84 |
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The transmission shift and throttle response delay is outright baffling. Leave it to Honda to bungle this up. Stop re-inventing the wheel. Source the same ZF8 like BMW. Massive massive fail. Design team delivers but drivetrain team screws it up. What a shame. SIGH!!!
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09-27-2020, 08:03 PM | #85 |
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BMW, Alfa, ChryCo, Supra, Jaguar, etc... it's a very, very superb unit, and it probably the best thing ChryCo ever did putting ZFs in almost everything.
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09-28-2020, 06:04 AM | #86 | |
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09-28-2020, 06:20 AM | #87 |
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First Reviews Of 2021 Acura TLX Are In, Is It As Competitive As It Needs To Be?
The redesigned 2021 Acura TLX will launch in the United States on September 28 and a handful of publications have had the opportunity to test it. In the U.S., the range kicks off with the TLX 2.0T that’s available from $37,500 in front-wheel drive form and $39,500 with the Super Handling All-Wheel Drive system. This meansit is $1,300 more expensive than the base 2020 TLX that came with a V6 engine producing 290 hp. By comparison, the 2021 TLX’s 2.0-liter turbo four-cylinder delivers 272 hp and 280 lb-ft (379 Nm) of torque. The first review comes from TheStraightPipes in Canada and they have mixed things to say about the new TLX with the 2.0-liter turbo-four. The biggest letdown seems to be Acura’s standard 10-speed automatic transmission that is extraordinarily slow to respond when you floor the throttle and expect it to downshift. The reviewers also have some complaints about the handling, claiming that, while it feels capable, it doesn’t inspire confidence. There are also some complaints relating to the interior, such as the confusing trackpad used to operate the infotainment system. A review from Cars.com also says that the second row lacks headroom and legroom. Of course, the real make or break for the TLX could be the flagship Type S model. This variant won’t arrive until next spring, but has a lot of potential thanks to its 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 that produces 355 hp and 354 lb-ft (480 Nm), funneled through a 10-speed auto to the Super Handling All-Wheel Drive system. However, we’ll have to wait a little longer to get the chance to review that model. |
09-28-2020, 11:06 AM | #88 | |
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Type S isn't going to do anything if the revenue generating models just sit on dealer lots like the RL aka RLX. It's not bad enough they priced out of the range. I sense incentives coming in less than 12 months. |
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09-28-2020, 11:41 AM | #89 |
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That’s a good looking car. It’s a shame they spend millions of dollars designing a new release and then drop the ball on something as simple as transmission tuning. The Powertrain people worked on that unit, so it’s not like doing it well is any more expensive than what they did.
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09-28-2020, 01:06 PM | #90 |
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Reminds me of the conversation at the time about the Kizashi. Spending millions or billions to develop a savior sedan when it really didn't matter because there was so much more wrong with it than there was right with it. Acura has 9 lives. And the Honda Accord. Suzuki did not. Such a futile game, creating a do everything for everyone super premium sedan when the Germans are continually pumping out impossible targets to hit and reliability is about the same. |
09-28-2020, 01:24 PM | #91 |
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It's an ordinary looking sports sedan on the exterior besides the splitter which looked good from the top to bottom viewing angle, but it's not anything new I've seen.
I like the splash-outward like front grill design from the emblem (haven't seen anything like that before on a car at least) and the interior looks nice. Besides the front grill, I did not feel anything.. |
09-28-2020, 02:14 PM | #92 |
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SH-AWD turbo four cracks 4,000lbs (3,927-4,028 based on trim); I can only imagine how heavy the TTV6 Type S will be (as this was the only potentially desirable model for me).
-heavy -bad transmission logic and/or performance -questionable handling characteristics -back seat space concerns (varies based on reviewer) As a "sports luxury sedan" it's a swing and a miss in my book, unless the Type S magically loses weight and Acura figures out the transmission and suspension. related/unrelated - peeved that Acura shows the Type S drifting in the ad for it; you can't initiate a drift with an E-parking brake, and SH-AWD certainly won't oversteer, especially not with the amount of theater shown in the ad. |
09-28-2020, 02:49 PM | #93 |
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The Type S will likely weigh in the range of 4200 lbs or more depending on the size of brakes and wheels they use. I'm not sure 350 hp is going to be enough power to make that car anything more than quick. Shame about the transmission though. That Straight Pipes video showing full second delays between shifting is the worst I have seen from any late model automatic. I would hope that the Type S will feature better programming but Honda's track record with automatic transmissions has always been spotty so no surprise.
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09-28-2020, 03:05 PM | #94 | |||
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The ZF9 (9HP48) works for transverse engines and that's the tranny Acura had been using in the TLX since 2015 ... and seems like people didn't like it too much either. Honda/Acura just needs to bite the bullet and improve their in-house 10-speed. Interesting tidbit, the ZF 9HP48 is rated for 480 N.m which translates to exactly 354 ft.lb. Acura max torque for that new TLX is also, exactly, 354 ft.lbs. I don't think it's a coincidence ; I think that new TLX engine was initially supposed to be paired with the ZF9; then plans changed along the way and the in-house 10-speed was shoved in there. |
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09-28-2020, 03:39 PM | #95 |
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Thanks neg_matnik was not aware of that fact about the ZF8. Can't stand the dumb arse transverse design. Honda never steps up to the ball game. At this rate I might have to look at a Certified Gensis G70 in manual trim.
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09-28-2020, 05:45 PM | #96 | |
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Acura needs to sort out that 10-speed fast; also they need to think about increasing its torque capacity, if they can. |
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09-29-2020, 09:54 AM | #97 |
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I sincerely hope you can find one given there were supposedly around 100 sold stateside. That's insane. I own a 3.3 but obviously had to go with an auto, it's my first auto and first sedan ever...and probably last. Hatches, longroofs, liftbacks, etc. are the way to go. Obviously knew this in advance but the trunk holds a single tire, 2 in the back seat, and 1 in the passenger seat. Not exactly a flexible space!
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10-03-2020, 06:18 AM | #98 | ||||
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2021 Acura TLX Track Test Review
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10-03-2020, 09:14 PM | #99 |
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The TLX Type S was really exciting at the launch, but I had a feeling it would be a disappointment when available.
I think the FWD version would be the one to get. AWD version is too heavy. In my opinion the TLX looks the best in the Type S trim. The non Type S design looks generic and the side profile appears out of proportion. They move the front wheels forward like a BMW, but also has an overhang like an Impreza . I wished they just make an appealing FWD sports sedan, then try to make a FWD look like a RWD. The Accord Sport does it better in my opinion as the four door Type R. |
10-04-2020, 12:44 AM | #100 |
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0-60 in 7 seconds? With less than 100 more hp and a couple 100 extra pounds, i cant see the type-s cracking the 6 second mark. Sad.
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