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05-21-2021, 12:43 PM | #51 |
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Well put.. when the people who know how to build a car start building EV's the Tesla fanboi with the megaphone in the corner screaming about 0-60 will start to fade away. Most people do not need the most extreme anything. They want solid average and reliable without all the extra baggage. And F150 is the perfect candidate to test the waters in the EV world. They outsell cars in some states by themselves. Ford better pour every penny this thing needs from day one. A mistake on an F150 is brand suicide.
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05-21-2021, 02:35 PM | #52 |
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05-21-2021, 04:24 PM | #53 |
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Surprised they put an IFS rear in it. Also, pretty clever that scales function is. Don't know how useful it is though to anyone but the hardcore worker truck types....and they'd probably want a solid rear axle. Gotta give them credit though for innovating.
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05-22-2021, 08:54 AM | #54 |
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Deflation? We’ve been long into inflation. The feds changed how inflation is measured in the 80’s and is now artificially lower. We’ve been growing well above 2% inflation for a long time in most meaningful metrics.
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05-22-2021, 09:52 PM | #55 |
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AKA an IRS
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05-23-2021, 09:05 AM | #56 |
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05-24-2021, 01:36 AM | #57 |
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05-24-2021, 08:03 AM | #58 |
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05-24-2021, 08:06 AM | #59 |
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TIL towing a camper more than 50 yards is a weird old white man thing.
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05-24-2021, 08:53 AM | #60 |
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Can we talk about how Ford isn't going to make the cheap one available any time soon for regular buyers? THere's no way you will be able to go to a dealership and see one for less than $60k (before tax credit) for years.
They advertise these bargain basement prices and you end up not being able to get one or it's severely de contented. Like if you want radar cruise control on an Explorer you gotta pay $45k. This $40ish thousand EV F150 will be their equivalent $35k Model 3. They will make it unappealing (fleet customers aside). |
05-24-2021, 09:22 AM | #61 |
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05-24-2021, 10:26 AM | #62 |
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05-24-2021, 10:47 AM | #63 | |
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Soon as major battery tech change none will buy that truck used. its like late 70s all over again. Product shortages and rapid price climbs till they have to rein it in with high interest rates. Last edited by Masterauto; 05-24-2021 at 02:56 PM. |
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05-24-2021, 12:37 PM | #64 |
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05-24-2021, 04:18 PM | #65 |
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Decent ride along review. Nothing super in-depth but looks moderately promising so far.
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05-24-2021, 05:39 PM | #66 |
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Also, not only we don't know battery pack size, but we don't know whether or not Ford is using 400V packs or faster charging 800V packs like in GM's Hummer. Based on the 5% to 80% charging times quoted by Ford, the author says Ford is using the less expensive 400V packs to attract commercial customers (lower cost of entry). |
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05-24-2021, 09:11 PM | #68 | |
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05-24-2021, 10:49 PM | #70 |
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That frunk is pretty cool...
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05-25-2021, 01:43 AM | #71 | |
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05-25-2021, 01:45 AM | #72 |
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TIL juanmedinas name is either Jeff or Rob because he’s clearly my BIL.
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05-25-2021, 08:25 AM | #73 |
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The battery has to be way larger to be able to get that can range on a truck that is not very aerodynamic. Also looking at the charging times you can tell that it has to be a fairly big battery. IIRC the Mach-E extended/long range has a 98kWh battery. The electric hummer is supposed to come with a 200 kWh battery pack .
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05-25-2021, 09:03 AM | #74 |
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300mi range & decently equipped (dual zone climate control, "leather" and interior that isn't F***ing gray, heated & ventilated seats) at 55-60k and I'm in; I won't want a first year (nor will I reserve one so wouldn't be able to get one anyways), but second year possibly. I don't want blue-cruize or any of the other "look at me" tech garbage, just bluetooth so I can run my pocket computer through the head unit for google maps & music. If the lower range model is significantly cheaper with my required appointments I can make it work too; I honestly only need the extra range a 1/2 dozen times a year, and if the wife gets an ICE CUV then it won't matter (thought she was in for a Sienna Hybrid AWD, but sadly no, Highlander hybrid AWD is likely in our future).
It pains me that I'm putting roof racks & and a cargo box on my IS simply because nobody makes a fun wagon anymore (you know, that isn't stupid money). |
05-25-2021, 09:23 AM | #75 | |
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Not going to happen at $55-60k. I bet you’re looking closer to $75k. Hell, to get those features on an Ecoboost F150 you’re looking at $60-$65k Lariat. I think sticker on my lariat was a bit over $60k (Fx4, 502a, heated / cooled seats, etc). Hopefully within 5 years we see the cost come down and it can be had for $65k. I’m interested to see what impact running the AC along with cooled seats has on mileage / range. If a Lariat could be had for $70k’ish with heated and cooled seats and extended range, I could be tempted considering the federal and state tax incentives. I’m also interested to see what the residual value looks like in 2 years on a truck with 20k miles. |
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