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03-25-2021, 12:43 PM | #26 |
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But the badge on the new BRZ is less oval shaped and is more rounded. Also the silver bezel around the badge looks thicker on the new BRZ badge.
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03-25-2021, 12:54 PM | #27 |
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I say its about a 60% chance of being the 86 announcement, 20% chance of being some sort of WRC hatch/thing, and 20% of being something we have no idea about...
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03-25-2021, 01:00 PM | #28 |
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The only Subaru with a badge on front bodywork like that is the BRZ
The only Toyotas with a badge on front bodywork like that is the 86 Toyotas with a front badge on bodywork that don't look similar are the Supra & Mirai, the Supra is a BMW and the Mirai won't be associated with GR, and looks completely different. I feel like if they were teasing a completely new vehicle collaboration, they would use images from that vehicle collaboration. "GR"/"STi" version of the 86/BRZ which amounts to appearance/suspension tuning and no increase in power output is my guess. |
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But I hope that I'm wrong. I would love to see an STI/GR WRC-inspired hot hatch that comes to the US. I'd give them my money even if it sits below the STI in terms of performance. Quote:
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03-25-2021, 01:03 PM | #30 | ||
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Also from the other Hot Hatch WRC thread here in N&R
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Toyota Gazoo WRT has yet to test next years' WRC chassis. https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/n...ummer/5581017/ Last year, they stated that the development of the WRC car based off the Yaris GR was going to be called off. The 2022 regs allow for tube chassis, sillhoutte style cars. The body can be scaled to fit the wheelbase. Maybe they're going to use something else. Maybe even their version of the twin? But there are the rumors of a codeveloped hatch as well... https://bestcarweb.jp/news/245781 |
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03-25-2021, 01:12 PM | #31 |
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Looks like a Celica type sibling thingy. There's no grill for teh coolings of turbos.
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03-25-2021, 01:22 PM | #32 |
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Bestcar Japan is saying it is the 86. But they aren't 100% sure either lol. https://bestcarweb.jp/news/264327
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03-25-2021, 01:45 PM | #33 | |
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Remember, GR86 hasn't been revealed yet, or even officially announced by Toyota as GR86 at this point. So while a little wonky, definitely most likely. |
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03-25-2021, 01:54 PM | #34 |
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Yeah... |
03-25-2021, 01:58 PM | #35 | |
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03-25-2021, 01:59 PM | #36 | |
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Not getting hyped up at all because this could just be the 86 reveal. Japanese mfr's (bikes more than cars) are water tight like a frog's ass so the recent 86 leaks about infighting, this could just be stomping that out for PR reasons. If it's my hatch I'll be pleasantly surprised but given Toyo's teasing of bringing the GR4 here, and Subaru's 5 door f up since the VA, well no reason to get amped up about anything until it's 100% real in the face. Until then, f it. Show me something or ST F U. All I can do is cross my fingers and hope it's the return to WRC, for Subaru to quit showing clips of yesteryear, and bring an actual hatch back to the US with a turbo and diffs. I'm more excited about GP starting up tomorrow at Qatar than this. WE can circle jerk on 4/5 if it's the droid many of us have been looking for. I'm not a betting guy, detest gambling, but if I were to bet, like the others above, just the 86 reveal. Both companies are too much of pu$$ies to bring an AWD Turbo diff equipped hatch stomping everyone's a$$. They're too conservative, at least for the USDM. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's just the 86 or some bs CUV turbo bs. |
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03-25-2021, 02:08 PM | #37 |
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Let's be glad the press conference is on April 5th and not April 1st
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03-25-2021, 02:11 PM | #38 |
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Hope is the Toyota GR is the hatchback for North America that Toyota USA mentioned on their website
https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/gr-hot-hatch/ It would be nice for Subaru to get the hatchback version too. |
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03-25-2021, 02:55 PM | #40 |
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https://www.carthrottle.com/post/6-t...yota-gr-yaris/
This GR-4 JDM Haldex sounds great... The clutch unit is supplied by Toyota Group's own company JTEKT and is described as being "lighter and smaller" than a Haldex-style clutch. Speaking of, a Haldex clutch-type all-wheel drive system will run as front-wheel drive most of the time, sending power rearwards only when necessary. This isn't the case with the GR Yaris' setup, which is not an on-demand system. Further separating it from Haldex, it's capable of a rear-bias with a 30/70 default split given in Sport mode. It's 60/40 in Normal, while in Track, it's 50/50. The rear differential is geared one per cent faster than the front, allowing for the power transfer from front to rear which occurs via JTEKT's clutch pack slipping. The differentials, meanwhile, are open as standard but swapped for Torsen limited-slip diffs if the Circuit Pack is specced. Last edited by Snow Drift; 03-25-2021 at 03:02 PM. |
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03-25-2021, 03:06 PM | #42 | |
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They partner to sell cars to the masses, not to compete against each other in motorsports. manufactures join motorsports to show off their own talent, not to borrow it from others. People on here think that subaru is going to somehow take Toyota's yaris gr, slab a subaru badge on it, and then compete in wrc with it... my point is, that's not going to happen. |
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03-25-2021, 03:43 PM | #44 |
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That car has grill. And WRX headlights. Teased image is a BRZ with mess on bumper.
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03-25-2021, 04:07 PM | #45 | |
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We already know about the new BRZ, why would Toyota include Subaru in a GR86 unveiling? |
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we don't have long to wait, we shall see what they will show us. we still have the wrx and STI reveal to wait for. but hope for a car that represents our rally days again is the hope they show us as the current wrx has grown up
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Question then. What about Peugeot and Citroen? Weren't/aren't they sister companies that competed against each other? Would being "sister" companies make that different than "partner" companies? Cause, yeah, I don't think I ever saw a "race" version of an 86 like they did the BRZ for GT300. |
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I just noticed that the badge in the image is filled in and recessed, and the 86 isn't. So that is a new badge and a bumper like the BRZ...
If this is just some weird joint GR86 presser that will be really lame. |
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