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Old 08-02-2020, 01:07 PM   #376
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Old 08-02-2020, 02:36 PM   #377
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how is Grosjean still driving in F1? lmao
Haha! That's a good question.
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It would've been a yawner if it wasn't for the Mercedes tire blowout.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Hamilton Mercedes 52 1h 28:01.283
2 Verstappen Red Bull 52 + 0:05.856
3 Leclerc Ferrari 52 + 0:18.474
4 Ricciardo Renault 52 + 0:19.650
5 Norris McLaren 52 + 0:22.277
6 Ocon Renault 52 + 0:26.937
7 Gasly AlphaTauri 52 + 0:31.188
8 Albon Red Bull 52 + 0:32.670
9 Stroll Racing Point 52 + 0:37.311
10 Vettel Ferrari 52 + 0:41.857
11 Bottas Mercedes 52 + 0:42.167
12 Russell Williams 52 + 0:52.004
13 Sainz McLaren 52 + 0:53.370
14 Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo 52 + 0:54.205
15 Latifi Williams 52 + 0:54.549
16 Grosjean Haas 52 + 0:55.050
17 Raikkonen Alfa Romeo 51 + 1 Lap
Kvyat AlphaTauri 11 Accident
Magnussen Haas 1 Accident
The Hulk Racing Point - Did Not Start

Poor Hulk. I've never seen these hybird cars not start up before.
Vettle gets 10th despite not having basically no practice time. Intercooler & loose pedals?
Leclerc backs in another podium.
What happen to Kimi?
Another poor race by Albon.
Lack luster race by last years Mercedes car (Race Point, Stroll)
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Old 08-02-2020, 10:39 PM   #379
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Debris may have been the cause of the tyre failures. Kimi had left pieces of his front wing on the curbs and left hand side of the track.

https://www.motorsportweek.com/2020/...0-little-cuts/

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It led to suggestions that Red Bull had squandered a potential victory by bringing Verstappen into the pits but that viewpoint was countered by team boss Horner.

"The tyre that came off the car had about 50 little cuts in it," he said.

"It had been through debris and if we'd have stayed out we could have lost a second position with the same failure as Lewis, Carlos Sainz and Bottas. So it was right on the limit.
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Old 08-04-2020, 11:09 AM   #381
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hoping to see good things from Mclaren this year
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Old 08-05-2020, 11:47 AM   #382
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Some of the curbs are being replaced at the exit of Becketts after fears over damage being caused to tyres.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...aign=widget-22

Throughout the British Grand Prix weekend, drivers were seen running close to the edge of the track while exiting Becketts and going into Chapel corner, with many dipping a wheel into the grass.

The drivers would then go from the grass onto the kerb at Chapel, putting added forces on the tyres before going onto the Hangar Straight.

The closing stages of the Silverstone race saw three drivers suffer tyre failures, including race winner Lewis Hamilton, while others reported heavily-cut tyres after late pit stops.

Following the race, the FIA requested the installation of a new kerb at the exit of Becketts ahead of this weekend’s second event at Silverstone.

“To help the drivers adhere to track limits this weekend, at the request of the FIA, a 23 metre section of kerb with taper has been installed at the exit of turn 13 ahead of this weekend’s 70th Anniversary Grand Prix,” a Silverstone spokeswoman confirmed.

A number of drivers also reported cuts in their tyres following Friday’s practice running, which Pirelli F1 boss Mario Isola said could have been caused by debris getting caught at the Chapel kerb.

“Probably some of the cuts we found on Friday were caused by the fact that some debris was trapped in the kerb, causing some cuts in the tyres,” Isola said.

“They are working around that and it's a good action, it's a good idea to have this small modification that is helping this situation.”

Pirelli: Softer tyres not a risk at second Silverstone race
Renault driver Esteban Ocon said the lack of a kerb exiting Becketts meant it was easier to run wide and dip a wheel onto the grass. “We have seen a lot of cuts and stuff that we don’t normally see in practice. It is true Silverstone is probably the toughest circuit for tyres with the high speed and the kerbs,” Ocon said.

“There is a new thing as well out of Turn 13, there is now no kerb anymore which there was before, so now you run in the dirt and then you go on to the kerb and that could also damage the tyres.

“I don’t know if it came from the carbon debris or just the track being very hard with the tyres or the new cars running wider than I was used to in 2018.

“But we’ve seen more damage and more cut to the tyres than we have ever seen.”
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Some of the curbs are being replaced at the exit of Becketts after fears over damage being caused to tyres.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...aign=widget-22

Throughout the British Grand Prix weekend, drivers were seen running close to the edge of the track while exiting Becketts and going into Chapel corner, with many dipping a wheel into the grass.

The drivers would then go from the grass onto the kerb at Chapel, putting added forces on the tyres before going onto the Hangar Straight.

The closing stages of the Silverstone race saw three drivers suffer tyre failures, including race winner Lewis Hamilton, while others reported heavily-cut tyres after late pit stops.

Following the race, the FIA requested the installation of a new kerb at the exit of Becketts ahead of this weekend’s second event at Silverstone.

“To help the drivers adhere to track limits this weekend, at the request of the FIA, a 23 metre section of kerb with taper has been installed at the exit of turn 13 ahead of this weekend’s 70th Anniversary Grand Prix,” a Silverstone spokeswoman confirmed.

A number of drivers also reported cuts in their tyres following Friday’s practice running, which Pirelli F1 boss Mario Isola said could have been caused by debris getting caught at the Chapel kerb.

“Probably some of the cuts we found on Friday were caused by the fact that some debris was trapped in the kerb, causing some cuts in the tyres,” Isola said.

“They are working around that and it's a good action, it's a good idea to have this small modification that is helping this situation.”

Pirelli: Softer tyres not a risk at second Silverstone race
Renault driver Esteban Ocon said the lack of a kerb exiting Becketts meant it was easier to run wide and dip a wheel onto the grass. “We have seen a lot of cuts and stuff that we don’t normally see in practice. It is true Silverstone is probably the toughest circuit for tyres with the high speed and the kerbs,” Ocon said.

“There is a new thing as well out of Turn 13, there is now no kerb anymore which there was before, so now you run in the dirt and then you go on to the kerb and that could also damage the tyres.

“I don’t know if it came from the carbon debris or just the track being very hard with the tyres or the new cars running wider than I was used to in 2018.

“But we’ve seen more damage and more cut to the tyres than we have ever seen.”
Sounds to me like they just need to make it so all the curbs have a tendency to cut the tires and then it will make it so if you want them to last you will stay the hell off them. LOL

I have never liked the whole "just the inside tire needs to be on the actual track surface" junk.
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:20 PM   #384
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It seems that Vettel to Aston Martin- Race Point is a done deal:

https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1...oon-heres-why/

Apparently, Vettel and Racing Point (soon to be Aston Martin) have had an agreement for some time now. The reason behind Racing Point and Vettel keeping things under wraps is due to Perez’s current condition.

Formula 1 can be ruthless at times, but announcing a new driver when the to-be replaced driver is recovering from a lethal sickness doesn’t scream professionalism.

Racing Point may have avoided an absolute PR disaster by keeping things on the down-low for now.

Sebastian Vettel: The new face of Aston Martin?
Another interesting reason behind the delay in announcing Vettel allegedly has to do with finalizing the German’s contract. Apparently, Racing Point and Vettel were tied up in discussing finances and Vettel’s role within the team.



“The basis of the agreement has been substantially decided for some time. But Vettel’s role had to be established. (and monetized)

“He would have had as Formula 1 ambassador of the new Aston Martin brand, which from 2021 will give the team its name. Well, the commercial details of the contract should now be in place too.

“Sergio Perez, the driver destined to be replaced by Vettel, contracted the coronavirus and was forced to miss a GP. So the team, for reasons of delicacy, could postpone the announcement of Vettel’s engagement.

“And separation from the Mexican,” reads a report from La Gazzetta dello Sport.

So far, Racing Point hasn’t given any meaningful updates on its driver situation for 2021. Crucially, the team hasn’t shot down any rumors suggesting Vettel could join the Silverstone outfit.

However, Team Principal Otmar Szafnauer revealed that reports of Perez’s exit clause expiring on July 31 were false. A few weeks ago, reports emerged claiming Perez had an exit clause within his contract which would expire on July 31, paving a potential path for Vettel to replace him.


Sebastian Vettel has also remained coy about his future in the sport. However, he asserted that he didn’t have any updates regarding his plans for 2021.
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Vettel's best day are long behind him.
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Old 08-07-2020, 05:58 AM   #386
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Racing Point lose points, fined for illegal brake ducts.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/racing...l-brake-ducts/

Racing Point has been deducted 15 points, fined 400,000 Euros, and reprimanded for two races after their brake ducts were deemed illegal by the FIA.


The FIA delivered its verdict on Friday morning, one hour before FP1 was due to get underway at Silverstone for the 70th Anniversary Grand Prix, after weeks of investigation following an initial protest from Renault.

The Enstone team targeted the front and rear brake ducts of the RP20 – which has been dubbed the ‘pink Mercedes’ due to its likeness to the W10 – as part of its protest and claimed that Racing Point received drawings from Mercedes in order to copy them.

Racing Point strongly denied this claim and said that both the front and rear brakes were created within the boundaries of what the FIA regulations allow.

However, while the FIA declared that Racing Point’s Racing Point were allowed to copy the Mercedes front ducts as they used them in 2019, they did not use Mercedes’ rear brake ducts last year and therefore copying them to place on the 2020 car was deemed illegal.

The verdict was that Racing Point would lose 7.5 points in Constructors’ for each car, 200,000 Euros for each car, and reprimanded for using the illegal rear brake ducts at the Hungarian and British Grands Prix. The initial protest by Renault was launched at the Styrian Grand Prix, round two of the revised 2020 calendar.

The penalty is ‘proportionate for the violation of the design process which led to the breach of regulations and a further penalty of reprimand is sufficient for the Hungarian and the British Grands Prix’.

Racing Point go from having 27 points in the Constructors’ to 12 points, moving them from P6 to P7.

However, they are expected to appeal the decision from the FIA and it also appears that Racing Point will not have to redesign the brake ducts for future races.
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First win for Renault since 2008
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However, they are expected to appeal the decision from the FIA and it also appears that Racing Point will not have to redesign the brake ducts for future races.
Now the other teams are considering appealing the part of the ruling that says Racing Point can continue to use those ducts.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...9b9JEmBcR.html
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The HULK!
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Good show for him.

Now maybe he can parlay that into his first podium.
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The Grid:

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Bottas Mercedes 1:25.154 154.756 mph
2 Hamilton Mercedes 1:25.217 0.063
3 Hulkenberg Racing Point 1:26.082 0.928
4 Verstappen Red Bull 1:26.176 1.022
5 Ricciardo Renault 1:26.297 1.143
6 Stroll Racing Point 1:26.428 1.274
7 Gasly AlphaTauri 1:26.534 1.380
8 Leclerc Ferrari 1:26.614 1.460
9 Albon Red Bull 1:26.669 1.515
10 Norris McLaren 1:26.778 1.624
11 Ocon Renault 1:27.011
12 Vettel Ferrari 1:27.078
13 Sainz McLaren 1:27.083
14 Grosjean Haas 1:27.254
15 Russell Williams 1:27.455
16 Kvyat AlphaTauri 1:27.882
17 Magnussen Haas 1:28.236
18 Latifi Williams 1:28.430
19 Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo 1:28.433
20 Raikkonen Alfa Romeo 1:28.493
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I doubt Hulk will parlay this into a podium - likely a 5th or 6th place finish.

It also goes to show how mediocre Stroll is.

I'm really surprised at Ocon and his mediocre showing.

Russell, looks good - that Williams did not look like fringe Q2 car.
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Max will get past Hulk sooner or later but he could still get 4th. 3rd is possible if someone ahead drops out. But with Hulks luck it will be Riccardo instead.
Riccardo is a damm good driver. He's beaten everyone except Max. It will be interesting to see what he'll do in the Mclaren-Mercedes next year. Mclaren really turned thing around. (Why can't Williams do it ?)
Stroll and Latifi are only there because their dads got tons of money.
RP are way better off having Perez and Vettel but thats not happening.
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Hulk is fast! Always has been, the problem I see is that he has the worst luck of any driver by far. Problem is that his bad luck is fairly consistent, so what do you do about that? I'm not surprised that he doesn't have a ride, but it's a shame because he is fast and he can keep it together for a race. He never had a shot in F1 in a front funning car, so we'll see what he can do with a 'best-of-the-rest' car in the Racing Point.
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Nice win by Max!
Mercedes just don't like heat.
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Not the outcome I wanted - would have liked to see Bottas close the gap to Hamilton - but now it seems as if this is another lost season for the WDC.
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Oh look, Albon CAN actually pass on the outside without getting punted off track...
Also wished Bottas took 2nd and Leclerc 3rd. Felt bad for Hulk, he did pretty well though.
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Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 52 1h 19:41.993
2 Hamilton Mercedes 52 + 0:11.326
3 Bottas Mercedes 52 + 0:19.231
4 Leclerc Ferrari 52 + 0:29.289
5 Albon Red Bull 52 + 0:39.146
6 Stroll Racing Point 52 + 0:42.538
7 Hulkenberg Racing Point 52 + 0:55.951
8 Ocon Renault 52 + 1:04.773
9 Norris McLaren 52 + 1:05.544
10 Kvyat AlphaTauri 52 + 1:09.669
11 Gasly AlphaTauri 52 + 1:10.642
12 Vettel Ferrari 52 + 1:13.370
13 Sainz McLaren 52 + 1:14.070
14 Ricciardo Renault 51
15 Raikkonen Alfa Romeo 51
16 Grosjean Haas 51
17 Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo 51
18 Russell Williams 51
19 Latifi Williams 51
20 Magnussen Haas 43 Vibration

Nice win by Max
Good drive by Leclerc on a 1 stopper.
WTF why did they pit Hulk? To let Stroll finish ahead of him? (ok , Hulk said he had a wheel vibration)
Lewis crying about RedBull using illegal tire pressure.
Vettel calling out the team on a crap pit strategy.
Williams being Willams.

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