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Old 09-09-2003, 09:45 PM   #76
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Here are the pics of the install as promised:





I sent another email to Nathan at TurboXS but have had no response as of yet
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Old 09-09-2003, 10:18 PM   #77
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From what I've seen, and the looks of these pics. of mufflers, you can only install it at an angle where it leads the tip to be very close to the bumper. It looks like a faulty design to me...
Anyone have similar pics for the stock muffler?

Just curious. From looking at these photos, it seems that this muffler hangs a little lower & reduces the ground clearance a little, especially around the front seam.
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Old 09-09-2003, 10:39 PM   #78
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Perhaps it would have been a better design if it did indeed hang lower and stick out about an inch or so, like this HKS Muffler:

http://www.worldoneperformance.com/p...s_carbonti.JPG

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But, that practically robs the car of any useful ground clearance, it seems...! (Or is the car lowered, too?? )

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Old 09-10-2003, 12:11 AM   #79
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Even if it does "rob" the car of useful ground clearance, lowered or not, by all accounts, canister-style mufflers like the RFL usually will entail one to sacrifice ground clearance. You gotta sacrifice a little, and that should be known WELL BEFORE the purchase is made. Also, what is considered "useful" ground clearance to you may/probably will not apply to everyone. If ground clearance is a big concern, there are a plethora of other aftermarket non-canister style mufflers that will suit your needs, but you may also have to sacrifice a little power in reference to a canister style muffler, generally(not saying ALL!).

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Old 09-10-2003, 06:20 AM   #80
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NICE pictures, awesome car. In reference to your JIC 505Ti pics, I agree, TXS RFL sits waay too deep, as I've stated before. Seeing that your JIC canister sits at about the same height as the RFL's, it looks to me that all TXS needs to do is either make the tip or piping longer to significantly clear the rear bumper, like many of you have already brought up. But then again, you can always make the rear half switch to the JIC unit as a full cat back set up instead...which is lookin' really nice to me.

ellis, judging from the pipe design, that JIC looks like a screamer...is it loud? Where will I be able to get a deal on one?

Thanks for the pics,

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My exhaust is the JDM version with no resonators or anything... just Ti piping all the way back and a Ti can and burned tip. I can hold the whole thing up over my head with one hand. The weight was the reason I bought it. Adam at Z1 got it for me... I'm sure he can get you one if you want. I've heard the US market one is a lot quieter. But just give him a call and tell him Nate said to call him for a JDM JIC exhaust. He'll probably laugh. You could probably just use a Cusco downpipe or whatever you like.

I'll PM you a link to a video. It's 5 meg so I don't want half NASIOC downloading from my PC. It's from outside the car on the front straight at Mid Ohio. Usually at that point on the track the car lets out a hugh gunshot like pop on upshifts but it didn't do it this time unfortunately...

To answer your question... it's very loud!
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Old 09-10-2003, 08:38 AM   #81
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Do i understand it right? If i go with turbo back, with high flow cat (stealth back) keep the stock STi muffler, I wont have any melting bumper problems?

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Old 09-10-2003, 12:44 PM   #82
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Do i understand it right? If i go with turbo back, with high flow cat (stealth back) keep the stock STi muffler, I wont have any melting bumper problems?

Richard
Miami, FL
I doubt you'll have any problems since you'll be sticking with the Sti Muffler. From what I've read your exhaust temp's should actually be cooler since you'll be eliminating one cat and replacing the third cat with a high flow unit.

I've had my RFL for 3 days now and no discoloration or melting yet though I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'm wondering if this is mainly an Sti problem? A guy that lives near me has had his for a month or two and hasn't had any melting on his 04 WRX. He did note some discoloration, but no melting yet.
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Old 09-10-2003, 04:29 PM   #83
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I sent another email to Nathan at TurboXS but have had no response as of yet
As a last step before involving any legal efforts, you may want to supply photos and a letter and send it via registered mail. If you chose, at that time you could CC the letter to a few places too:
- advertisers / mags / shops that carry the product
- local BBB
- provincial consumer affairs office
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Old 09-10-2003, 07:12 PM   #84
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Old 09-11-2003, 02:36 PM   #85
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Old 09-11-2003, 05:24 PM   #86
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I have been advised that this issue has been escalated to the owner of TurboXS, so I will let you know what comes of it.

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Old 09-12-2003, 01:08 AM   #87
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There is absolutely no reason to scream bloody murder or stupid stuff about involving the legal authorites (from Kanada at that A Id be concerned with those faulty bearings in that uber expensive bling) TXS takes care of their own work with your vendor and TXS no need to slander and threaten
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Old 09-13-2003, 06:00 PM   #88
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I just put the high temp. tape on the underside of my bumper, and it looks okay, and seems to be working.

I did a complete write-up with pics included on Club WRX. Scroll towards the bottom and you'll see my pics. I know this might not be the best fix for a car that's not silver, but you can't really see it unless you get under the bumper. I think it will protect from most of the heat. I'll post in this thread again with an update soon.

p.s. I still love my RFL!


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Old 09-13-2003, 06:59 PM   #89
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I just put the high temp. tape on the underside of my bumper, and it looks okay, and seems to be working.
Part number, name and URL please!


Another alternative.
http://www.designengineering.com/flo...el_shield.html

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Old 09-13-2003, 11:18 PM   #90
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Here's the link. I got it from Summit Racing

http://store.summitracing.com/defau...+Tape+&x=9&y=10

That other stuff looks really similar, I wonder how it compares in price?
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Old 09-14-2003, 08:56 PM   #91
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I simply used 1" spacers in the two rear hangers. I cut two 1" cross sections of 1" diameter metal tubing. As I stretched the hangers down I inserted the spacers in each hole. Was very simple and effective. It did take a lot of force to stretch the hanger that much. Would probably be easier if I had it on my lift....or with two peeps! I have full catless Turbo XS TB and no melting yet. Only a little discoloration on my white car.

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Old 09-14-2003, 09:33 PM   #92
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Got any pics of what you did?

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Old 09-14-2003, 10:09 PM   #93
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I will try to get them up Monday!
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Old 09-15-2003, 12:02 PM   #94
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Just an update, TurboXS has still not contacted me.
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Old 09-15-2003, 12:46 PM   #95
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I spoke with Nathan from turboxs this morning regarding this issue and he doesnt feel as though they will be able to replace any damaged bumpers due to their exhausts. I asked for the owner to please call me back and will update when I hear from him. I feel as though I have somewhat of a special case as I had their mechanic do my install. After the 3 hour ride home the bumper was already crispy and completely ruined. I called turboxs at this time and this is when they recommended the cusco heat shield however the damage was already done. We shall see where we stand when I hear back from the owner of turboxs but needless to say Im not a happy camper.

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Old 09-15-2003, 01:59 PM   #96
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TERMINAL keep me posted!!

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Old 09-15-2003, 05:16 PM   #97
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Is there a link so I can see what the Cusco heat shield looks like?
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Old 09-15-2003, 06:38 PM   #98
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I will try to get them up Monday!
I'd like to see your pics as well. Can't quite visualize it in my mind.
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:00 PM   #99
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Sorry guys, no pics! I will have them up Tuesday....I promise!
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:22 PM   #100
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I've been reading all these posts and I'm really concern with the childish writings of a lot of guys. Please we are making mods to our cars that doesn't come from factory. Turbo xs is one of the better fitment parts that I have work with. Here on the island what we've done it's put a little aluminium tape and thats all. It looks like you've never been on the aftermarket parts because let me tell you that HKS, Greedy, Top Speed, MRT, M2 and others, all hit with the frames or the body or get stuck to your rear bumper for a really melted bumper. Here on the island we really hit the track almost every 2 to 3 weeks and yes there's a little melt but forgetted is running as hell. If you don't want any melting put the stock muffler I believe this one wouldn't melt the bumper. I don't know if I'm right but the white STI seems it doesn't have any cat, what you expected, that it wouldn't throw any fumes out. Please all that talking about legal stuff really upsets me about subaru owners. This is my car and I don't care!

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