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08-20-2016, 10:27 PM | #26 | |
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Vehicle:2016 WRX PRemium White |
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Putting your condesencion to one side (I am 40 yrs old and have modified many a car) you don't have to install super stiff suspension or an overly loud exhaust to enhance an already excellent car. Q300 and RCE yellows on a VA WRX = great improvement over stock with very little downside. The Q300 exhaust is not loud and the yellows are comfortable. There is also minimal chance of warranty issues from a safe tune and reasonable driver. In fact the stock tune is considered by many to be risky on this model anyway. Number chasing and BS dyno figures creating unrealistic expectations coupled with bad or overly agressive driving are the real issues.
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08-21-2016, 02:10 AM | #27 | |
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Join Date: Apr 2014
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TXIC
Location: DFW
Vehicle:2017 STI WRB, '15 DGM WRX RIP. |
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A better performing suspension or tuned FA20 are extremely worthwhile for enthusiasts IMO. Lots of power was left on the table for the '15+ WRX apparently (couldn't make it too close to the STI), and the 16+ premium models got cushier suspensions for no apparent reasons. Grown ups understand that companies have to market a product to the masses, sometimes we're willing to make sacrifices (comfort, cost) to get what we want. |
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08-21-2016, 02:16 AM | #28 |
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Vehicle:2017 STI WRB, '15 DGM WRX RIP. |
I'm very curious to know how much data they're collecting and how it's going to be used. Warranty fraud is one thing, but what about denying a warranty claim because you drove too fast (reckless driving). The system can pinpoint you with GPS and gathers all kinds of data.
The example about the airbag was pointless, there's a light on the dash for that. If you need an email to tell you that the Airbag isn't working, then you're an idiot. I'd like to know how much data it's dumping, who has access to it (can I request full access to my own data for example). etc. etc. What if my insurance company requests it if there's a claim, do they get access? I can't see any way that this benefits me. Probably going to pull out the antennas next time i'm behind the dash. |
08-21-2016, 02:27 AM | #29 |
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Join Date: May 2015
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BAIC
Location: Nor Cal
Vehicle:2016 STI Limited ISM |
I never knowingly consented to Subaru retrieving my personal data. If they are in fact downloading information regarding my vehicle, then that's their bad.
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08-21-2016, 11:43 AM | #30 |
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Member#: 424895
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Vehicle:2016 WRX - (SOLD!) |
Was wondering why the system was called "StarLink" when it provided no useful features at all and now I know. In Canada I guess we are lucky (or unlucky if you like the features) to not get the Big Brother portion of the system.
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08-21-2016, 12:18 PM | #31 |
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08-21-2016, 05:24 PM | #32 |
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08-22-2016, 03:03 AM | #33 |
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Australia
Vehicle:2016 WRX PRemium White |
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08-22-2016, 08:40 AM | #34 |
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Member#: 452408
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Clarksville, TN
Vehicle:2017 WRX LTD WRB |
Yep, I recently got my 17 and signed up as well. Health report showed that my TPMS was on. Yep had an irepairable tire 6 days into ownership. It was the longest 3 days to get a tire in to the dealership since i didn't want to drive on the donut. But yea, computer systems = ability to monitor changes that they can use against you if you had an unfortunate event. Happy modding all.
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08-22-2016, 10:48 AM | #35 |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Location: Canada
Vehicle:17 STI Sport-Tech 20 Corolla Hybrid Premium |
Really glad that up here in Canada we don't get that Starlink connected stuff so nothing is sent to Subaru. Is it still collected and checked when you bring it in? Maybe, but I doubt it since I bet it's all within the starlink module. No TPMS up here too which makes swapping wheels/tires even easier especially between summer and winter.
I never really understood those types of services like onstar. Seems like a whole lot of useless additions. |
08-22-2016, 12:06 PM | #36 |
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Location: Missouri
Vehicle:2018 WRX Premium CWP |
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08-22-2016, 12:08 PM | #37 |
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Member#: 446364
Join Date: May 2016
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: Nor Cal
Vehicle:'17 STI LMT '08 LGT DGM / QSM |
Watching for sure. Notice I can update the mileage (non-StarLink on my LGT)
But not on my STI. They know anything and everything they want to. Car is phoning home. |
08-22-2016, 12:24 PM | #38 |
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Vehicle:2017 STI CWP |
Swapped to new wheels this past weekend with no TPSM sensors, got an automated email from Subaru warning me about my tire pressure.
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08-22-2016, 12:43 PM | #39 | |
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Member#: 21356
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Can't catch me!
Vehicle:2017 Subaru Corolla STI Limited SE-R Type (R) |
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http://www.subaru.com/company/starlink-terms.html If your insurance company goes to get a court order, Subaru can share all with them. For new car, since you are signed up automatically, you are screwed for the signup term (was it 3 months or 3 years?) |
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08-22-2016, 12:51 PM | #40 |
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Join Date: May 2016
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Location: Nor Cal
Vehicle:'17 STI LMT '08 LGT DGM / QSM |
You get one year for free.
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08-22-2016, 12:55 PM | #41 | ||
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Location: Arlington, TN
Vehicle:2005 Baja Turbo 95&96 Sambar 06 Forester |
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Said the right things. Just didn't connect them correctly. Quote:
And I doubt Subaru will release info to anyone else but relevant companies without a court order. YOU? Dunno. |
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08-22-2016, 12:58 PM | #42 | |
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Location: Arlington, TN
Vehicle:2005 Baja Turbo 95&96 Sambar 06 Forester |
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You can refuse. Question is, does the car still send data? I wanna say I was told it does not. Don't hold me to that though. |
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08-22-2016, 01:07 PM | #43 |
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Member#: 446364
Join Date: May 2016
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BAIC
Location: Nor Cal
Vehicle:'17 STI LMT '08 LGT DGM / QSM |
If you subscribe or "use" the service you agree. Stated clearly. So folks, if you want to kill somebody, you better leave your phone and your StarLink connected vehicle at home when committing the crime.
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08-22-2016, 01:17 PM | #44 | |
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Location: Pacific Northwest
Vehicle:2017 WRX / HUQ-22 Lapis Blue Pearl |
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I plan to disconnect it. |
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08-22-2016, 05:46 PM | #45 |
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Vehicle:2017 STI Red. Duh |
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08-23-2016, 07:27 AM | #46 |
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It's 'cause the NSA is probably watching them, eh? Just keepin' tabs.
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08-23-2016, 08:16 AM | #47 |
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is this only on the 17's with starlink? I have a 16 sti with starlink
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08-23-2016, 08:29 AM | #48 |
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Location: Danville, Kentucky
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08-23-2016, 02:25 PM | #49 | ||
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Location: Queen Creek, AZ
Vehicle:2020 WRX Limited Crystal Black Silica |
Partially agree. Not everyone realises that as they age. Ageing and growing up are two very different entities. I bought my STi at 32 and never believed in modding it then. Today at 45, I still hold the same belief.
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08-23-2016, 03:34 PM | #50 |
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