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Old 04-30-2018, 05:54 PM   #1
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Default Dented Oil Pan, Oil Pick up Tube?

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I don't post here often. I was working under my car today, and when jacking it up the jack slipped and put a solid sized dent in my 15 wrx oil pan. It's not leaking, but the dent is pretty bad and right in the center next to the drain plug.

I searched and searched and cannot find any pictures or videos with the oil pan removed.

My question is: how low does the oil pickup tube sit in this engine? The car isn't throwing any codes, but I'm concerned to say the least.

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Old 05-01-2018, 09:07 AM   #2
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Sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I don't post here often. I was working under my car today, and when jacking it up the jack slipped and put a solid sized dent in my 15 wrx oil pan. It's not leaking, but the dent is pretty bad and right in the center next to the drain plug.

I searched and searched and cannot find any pictures or videos with the oil pan removed.

My question is: how low does the oil pickup tube sit in this engine? The car isn't throwing any codes, but I'm concerned to say the least.

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Mine was dented by the dealership when they were extracting a plug they rounded themselves... I had a thread with pics, but I haven't had any issues yet.

https://i.imgur.com/HLx606R.jpg
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:18 AM   #3
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Oil pick-up tubes sit fairly close to the bottom of the pan. Not on the bottom, but fairly close.

You can do one of two things:
1. Pull the pan and bang out the dent
2. Pull the pan and replace.

How much you damaged the oil pick-up, if any, you can't tell until you pull the pan.

If the car slipped of the jacking plate onto the pan, I have to presume it's a good sized dent
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Old 05-01-2018, 01:19 PM   #4
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pans are cheap, just replace it.
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Old 05-01-2018, 02:31 PM   #5
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You haven't started it yet right? Also I'm not familiar with any jacking points other than the side rails under the rockers.
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Old 05-01-2018, 02:42 PM   #6
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It's called a jacking plate for a reason.
Attaches to the cross-member right behind the oil pan
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Old 05-01-2018, 06:49 PM   #7
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Mine was dented by the dealership when they were extracting a plug they rounded themselves... I had a thread with pics, but I haven't had any issues yet.

https://i.imgur.com/HLx606R.jpg
unfortunately mine is a lot bigger
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Oil pick-up tubes sit fairly close to the bottom of the pan. Not on the bottom, but fairly close.

You can do one of two things:
1. Pull the pan and bang out the dent
2. Pull the pan and replace.

How much you damaged the oil pick-up, if any, you can't tell until you pull the pan.

If the car slipped of the jacking plate onto the pan, I have to presume it's a good sized dent
yeah it's like baseball sized maybe 1/4 inch in
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pans are cheap, just replace it.
i know its just a lot of effort to replace, might even be beyond my skills and the local subaru garage quoted me 500
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You haven't started it yet right? Also I'm not familiar with any jacking points other than the side rails under the rockers.
I have it runs fine
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:40 PM   #8
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unfortunately mine is a lot bigger

yeah it's like baseball sized maybe 1/4 inch in

i know its just a lot of effort to replace, might even be beyond my skills and the local subaru garage quoted me 500


I have it runs fine
$500 is cheap compared to the oil pick up breaking off and smoking the entire engine. could it be ok as is? sure. it could also break off tomorrow and you would be in for a $10k bill on thursday.
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:46 PM   #9
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yeah it's like baseball sized
Oh man... with a dent that size I suspect you've bent/damaged/cracked the oil pickup. I think you're definitely asking for trouble not replacing that oil pan and pickup.
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:18 AM   #10
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yeah it's like baseball sized maybe 1/4 inch in

i know its just a lot of effort to replace, might even be beyond my skills and the local subaru garage quoted me 500
If it's really as big as a baseball, you have serious issues.

It's not that hard to change an oil pan. It's time consuming and a PITA if you don't have a lift. While it's true $500 is a lot cheaper than a lost engine, it's money well spent.

Plenty of directions & videos around on how to change an oil pan but you will need a few tools like:
- hydraulic floor jack
- jack stands
- wrench and sockets
- new pan gasket
- RTV sealant - Permatex Gray
- patience
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Old 05-02-2018, 08:46 AM   #11
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$500 is cheap compared to the oil pick up breaking off and smoking the entire engine. could it be ok as is? sure. it could also break off tomorrow and you would be in for a $10k bill on thursday.
I'd like to echo this.
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Old 05-02-2018, 08:57 AM   #12
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while you're in there, grab the KillerB oil pick up
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:51 PM   #13
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From what I've read in the past, changing the oil pan on the FA20 WRX is not a small task.

The engine has to be lifted from the car to access all the bolts and have enough clearance to pull the pan, and because of this ECM has to be disconnected/pulled, intercooler and pitch stop removed, intake/exhaust has to be disconnected, etc.

$500 isn't that much to ensure the health of the engine, and while the engine is lifted and pan is out, might as well put in the KillerB FA20 oil pickup and upgrade the engine mounts if you want to go that route too.
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:25 PM   #14
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Just to reiterate what's already been said, you want to take care of this sooner than later. Even if you're still showing oil pressure (assuming you've verified good pressure with a gauge), your oil flow may be restricted at higher RPMs, which could be problematic to a very damaging level. Pulling the pan and hammering it back to shape is cheap and pretty common (especially in off-roading circles). Even buying a new pan is F-A-R less expensive than having to replace the entire longblock assembly.

Care and caution go a very long way in this situation.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:17 PM   #15
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You haven't started it yet right? Also I'm not familiar with any jacking points other than the side rails under the rockers.
which are these side rails exactly ?


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Just to reiterate what's already been said, you want to take care of this sooner than later. Even if you're still showing oil pressure (assuming you've verified good pressure with a gauge), your oil flow may be restricted at higher RPMs, which could be problematic to a very damaging level. Pulling the pan and hammering it back to shape is cheap and pretty common (especially in off-roading circles). Even buying a new pan is F-A-R less expensive than having to replace the entire longblock assembly.

Care and caution go a very long way in this situation.
so even when the oil pickup is not damaged, the deformed shape of the oil pan contributes to poor oil delivery at higher RPMs ?
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Old 04-09-2021, 09:54 PM   #16
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so even when the oil pickup is not damaged, the deformed shape of the oil pan contributes to poor oil delivery at higher RPMs ?
It absolutely could. Depending on MY and factory tolerances, the pickup may come from the factory with .06" clearance to .75". Depending on your clearance and dent size, it will determine if you do or don't have a flow restriction.

If you have a pressure gauge installed, you may observe a different pre & post dent pressure difference. If not, the only way to know if there's a restriction, is to pull the pan.
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Old 04-12-2021, 12:04 PM   #17
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Grab a killer-b oil pick up and have the shop install it with a new pan. Play it safe on this one before a stupid dent turns into a gaping hole in your wallet unnecessarily. The situation sucks, but it will suck a whole lot more if unattended.

rather spend 500 - 700 plus a day or 2 of down time vs thousands and several days/weeks of down time.
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