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Old 01-31-2016, 12:01 AM   #51
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:17 AM   #52
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:20 AM   #53
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On the other side of the coin, when you have a rare car, and someone tries to throw you the ol' "Well, KBB value for your RS is..." I just kindly show them the door. You know what you're looking at, and I'm not selling it to you under an already low book value.
On flip side, the book price is the best guess at a "fair market value". If you buy something too much over book, you might have a hard time convincing your insurance company that that vehicle is worth that much.
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:23 AM   #54
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On flip side, the book price is the best guess at a "fair market value". If you buy something too much over book, you might have a hard time convincing your insurance company that that vehicle is worth that much.
Or, looking at the vast wonder that is the internet, for prior sales and comparable prices for the car you're looking for.

I'm only interested in selling my car for what it's worth. I don't care about what the buyer needs to do to insure it.
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:47 AM   #55
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Or, looking at the vast wonder that is the internet, for prior sales and comparable prices for the car you're looking for.

I'm only interested in selling my car for what it's worth. I don't care about what the buyer needs to do to insure it.
God DAMMIT you are just ****ING WRONG!

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Old 01-31-2016, 12:50 AM   #56
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Or, looking at the vast wonder that is the internet, for prior sales and comparable prices for the car you're looking for.

I'm only interested in selling my car for what *I think it's worth. I don't care about what the buyer needs to do to insure it.
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Old 01-31-2016, 07:36 AM   #57
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Old 01-31-2016, 08:05 AM   #58
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MD, dude.

Come on, buy my ****ing car!
If serious, send me your phone number in PM.

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Old 01-31-2016, 08:07 AM   #59
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Bump! Bugeye price lowered to 20k. Very reasonable!
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Old 01-31-2016, 09:57 AM   #60
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I ALMOST bought a car off the used car forum a few years ago but changed my mind quick once I found out the guy that was selling it wasnt even listed on the title! . Then the guy bombarded me with texts and phone calls harassing me. What a fun experience.
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:41 AM   #61
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Depends on the RS though.

Most RS are not exactly rare, more uncommon (especially a clean / unmodded one)

Acadia green or Cardinal red with a 5mt? Rare.
Blaze yellow WRX? Rare
Sonic yellow WRX wagon? Rare.
Outback 35th anniversary with H6, cloth and monotone? **** me, rare. I have seen one in my life. Not sure the SUS version of the above even exists.
This sounds like my brother in-law. He had a 72 El Camino tripple black with a 454 4 speed. It was "rare" because they only made 5,000 in this exact combination? I point out to him that total Porsche 911 production that year was under 13,000. On the truly "rare" side, my neighbor restorer bought and restored a 48 Dual Phaeton. His was serial # 45. 48 were ever made. He also restored a 58 Desoto with fuel injection. 4 are known to exist and his is the only one with working fuel injection. (sold for just under half a mil to a guy in Florida). Subarus that are rare? Not even.
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:47 AM   #62
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This is the dumbest argument ever. Finding a clean, rust free RS at a decent price is uncommon at best. My own sales experience bears this out.

I'm not talking about the retards trying to move their 2 year old WRX with a pile of mods for more than MSRP. Even then, who cares? If their prices are bananas, the car won't sell until they embrace reality. Mock them all you want.
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:03 AM   #63
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This is the dumbest argument ever. Finding a clean, rust free RS at a decent price is uncommon at best. My own sales experience bears this out.

I'm not talking about the retards trying to move their 2 year old WRX with a pile of mods for more than MSRP. Even then, who cares? If their prices are bananas, the car won't sell until they embrace reality. Mock them all you want.
I did a recent search for a 2000-2001 RS 5-spd, within 500 miles of my location (which covers pretty much the entire eastern coast). Did this on Cars.com and Autotrader.com

I got one hit, which was a sparaycan painted black 2-door.

These cars aren't 'rare' by the common sense of the word, but they are in terms of finding one for sale.
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:07 AM   #64
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I did a recent search for a 2000-2001 RS 5-spd, within 500 miles of my location (which covers pretty much the entire eastern coast). Did this on Cars.com and Autotrader.com

I got one hit, which was a sparaycan painted black 2-door.

These cars aren't 'rare' by the common sense of the word, but they are in terms of finding one for sale.
Exactly. Getting into pedantic arguments about antique cars with only 20 examples ever made being more rare than a modern Subaru is dumb.
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:43 AM   #65
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These cars aren't 'rare' by the common sense of the word, but they are in terms of finding one for sale.
Bugeyes are becoming the same way. They built a bunch of them, but it's becoming increasingly difficult to find one that hasn't been beaten within an inch of it's life and/or doesn't have a million miles on it.

I'd take one with a bunch of miles on if it was well taken care of, but even those are hard to find.
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:57 AM   #66
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I see lots of clean, old, stock subarus around here, but none for sale and if they are, are expensive or have 300K miles and sell.

Not NASIOC, but

https://medford.craigslist.org/cto/5409696906.html

"2001 Subaru Impreza RS 2.5 AWD - $5500 170K. Timing belt done." Because you only have to do them once.

That might be craigslist barter ready pricing. Oddly, here people actually for the most part put the price things are actually worth on CL ads. I've bought 2 bikes, and couldn't bring myself to even try a lower price. But this one is in CA,

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Old 01-31-2016, 12:12 PM   #67
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"I'm not texting you!"



I've looked at a bunch of cars off CL and no one ever had any issue with texting back and forth with me. I tend not to want to do business with people that sound like they're difficult, unsufferable ********.
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:18 PM   #68
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"Cash for Clunkers took a lot of otherwise good usable cars out of the market so now its driving up the value of the rest of them."

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Old 01-31-2016, 12:21 PM   #69
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"I'm not texting you!"
I've looked at a bunch of cars off CL and no one ever had any issue with texting back and forth with me. I tend not to want to do business with people that sound like they're difficult, unsufferable ********.
You might be the exception to the rule but in my experience a 2 minute phone conversation can be a lot more productive than exchanging fragmented TXTs across minutes and hours. You are already exchanging phone numbers so what's the difficulty ?
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:36 PM   #70
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You might be the exception to the rule but in my experience a 2 minute phone conversation can be a lot more productive than exchanging fragmented TXTs across minutes and hours. You are already exchanging phone numbers so what's the difficulty ?
This. I always call and can usually tell after the first minute whether or not the car is worth looking at.

When sellers start getting fussy about answering too many questions I ask if they'd rather talk with me on the phone for a few minutes or potentially waste both our time with me going to look at the car and ask the same questions.
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You might be the exception to the rule but in my experience a 2 minute phone conversation can be a lot more productive than exchanging fragmented TXTs across minutes and hours. You are already exchanging phone numbers so what's the difficulty ?
I think it needs to be a split of both. Texting for quick, basic information exchange, calls for more detail. If someone refuses to do either or, they're either old (like making their contact number a land line), or probably hard to work with.
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Old 01-31-2016, 12:59 PM   #72
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Bugeyes are becoming the same way. They built a bunch of them, but it's becoming increasingly difficult to find one that hasn't been beaten within an inch of it's life and/or doesn't have a million miles on it.
Try buying any other 14 year old econobox. Same story. Nobody took great care of them because they're cheap, throwaway cars. They will have no future investment value, and at 14 years old there's little to no demand for them other than a handful of nostalgic folks. If they get traded in, they go right to auction and to very low end, trailer office, gravel used car lots that don't have a lot of online presence. As they got older and cheaper their owners were typically young kids 18-25 who beat the piss out of the car that already had 105k miles on it. That's exactly who I sold my two 02 WRXs to.

Same with 98-01 RS unfortunately. They hold little value except to a small niche market.
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I dont understand the rash of buyers that throw out "Interested, PM me".

No, you PM me, I made a for sale thread. If you are interested in buying what I'm selling, you can craft a one sentence PM to ask me a question. Why people think sellers should pander to a bunch of half-interested buyers that are most likely not interested is beyond me.
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Try buying any other 14 year old econobox. Same story. Nobody took great care of them because they're cheap, throwaway cars. They will have no future investment value, and at 14 years old there's little to no demand for them other than a handful of nostalgic folks. If they get traded in, they go right to auction and to very low end, trailer office, gravel used car lots that don't have a lot of online presence. As they got older and cheaper their owners were typically young kids 18-25 who beat the piss out of the car that already had 105k miles on it. That's exactly who I sold my two 02 WRXs to.

Same with 98-01 RS unfortunately. They hold little value except to a small niche market.
That's exactly what it is, I completely agree.

The challenge is to find one that hasn't gotten to that third tier of children owners that have beat the **** out of them.

I had a line on a white bugeye WRX wagon with 150k or so miles on it, one owner, adult owned, and he had a binder of receipts for everything he had ever done to it. No mods either, IIRC. He only wanted $4k for it.

I kick myself every day for not buying that car.
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