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Old 11-30-2001, 09:26 AM   #1
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OK. We need some type of shield made for the new AEM CAI for the WRX. It needs to cover the filter, or line the area the filter sits in, so that NO water can get to the filter NO MATTER WHAT, and so that it doesn't reduce airflow to the filter. The first part there, the no water part would be easy...But designing it so that airflow still comes freely is going to be the hard part.

Anyways, if anyone out there can create and produce something like this, you could easily sell it for $40 (same price as the ultra shady AEM bypass valve) and I think almost every single AEM CAI owner would buy it...

Let me know what you guys think.

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Old 11-30-2001, 11:36 AM   #2
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Old 11-30-2001, 12:16 PM   #3
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Injen makes a splash shield that perhaps would work somewhat... But NOTHING will protect from submerging it in water.


Like I put in another post... I believe by you, I drove through snow with my Injen and had NO problems whatsoever. Now your being more cautious than I am, but I have seen how 'covered" the filter is and it's pretty safe unless you go plowing through a puddle that happens to go through the fog light area. That is the most suseptible(sp?) area to soak your filter.
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Old 11-30-2001, 12:32 PM   #4
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Somebody get a bucket and put it in
the fender well.

My $.02 that could be worth a lot more.


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Make sure that you call it a CAI air box and not a bucket.
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Old 11-30-2001, 02:51 PM   #5
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ya, submerging the filter would be the worst...but you'd have to be in tall water for a considerable amount of time for the filter to be completely submerged....but when ripping through a huge puddle at 50mph....i'm just worried about water getting in the intake, not so much submerging it.
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Old 11-30-2001, 04:19 PM   #6
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I have a hard time believing that you could ingest enough water in a situation like that to possibly flood the engine.
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I have a hard time believing that you could ingest enough water in a situation like that to possibly flood the engine.
No kidding. Call it paranoia. I've been with a CAI on two cars for now and NEVER had a problem.....

You think of all the CAI units sold in the US(iceman, AEM, and more) and there are only a few horror stories if any. I mean with the amount of intakes being sold the damages should be proportionate to the units out on the road... don't you think?

But being careful if a good thing too. If I didn't have a lot of money to spend on repairs, I would be cautious
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Old 11-30-2001, 04:29 PM   #8
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I have a hard time believing that you could ingest enough water in a situation like that to possibly flood the engine.
start believing it, it happens. You don't have to 'flood' the motor, you just have to injest enough to get into the CC. Water doesn't compress, so things break as a result. Puddles can and have done it.

I used to $hit in my pants every rainy day in my Integras with CAI. It's one of the prices you pay. I just learned to drive very cautiuously.

on another note, did anyone bother dynoing the CAI yet (either one)? I know the resonator mod loss power, so I'm curious to see what the CAI will do.

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XS Engineering dynoed 15hp with theirs. It's very similar to the Injen and AEM. The stock airbox/maf/neck assembly exhibits a 6.3psi pressure drop. This is crappy. Not as bad as some Audis I've seen, but bad nonetheless.

Please don't tell me about horror stories, I lived a horror story with a CAI. I am merely saying that flying through a puddle at 50mph is not going to cause enough water to make it through the fender, into the filter, through the trap bends and into the engine through the turbo and intercooler.

I'd like a shield, perhaps, but if you want to seal up the CAI, you may as well just cut the pipe right after it enters the fender and put the filter there instead.

I know what I had to remove to put the CAI in, so I just wonder why the existing shielding isn't "good enough"
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I know what I had to remove to put the CAI in, so I just wonder why the existing shielding isn't "good enough"
If that question is directed towards me, it's because when I was installing the CAI, every single thing where the filter sits was covered with dried, muddy water....So that's how I deducted it not being good enough.

What does everyone think about cutting the pipe after it enters the fender wall? Sounds like a fairly good idea to me...And we could reinstall that ram air thing so that it would also blow more air right to the filter from the front of the car....I'll take a look at it this weekend, but cutting it so that it sits higher in the fender wall sounds like an excellent idea to me...
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