Fighter Jets

[07Wagon]

Hopefully the ejection didn't **** up the pilot's back.

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[Thumper23]

Hmm, FCS malfunction probably

[FaastLegacy]

Glad the pilot made it out.

[haa-yup!]

Originally Posted by Andy Bernard

F-35 crash at Eielson Alaska. Total loss.
Pilot got out ok.
According to a few comments it happened during an attempted landing after a declared IFE. The plane was rolling and the pilot ejected while partially inverted.
There's video on Reddit of the plane tumbling to the ground with gear down.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/co...ng_crashed_at/

looks like it pancaked on the field...overhead pattern with an IFE? or stall at high key?

[Ken-Ohki]

Originally Posted by Thumper23

Hmm, FCS malfunction probably

Double and triple redundant systems fail often?

Looking at how the plane fell, probably some engine trouble.

[Thumper23]

Originally Posted by Ken-Ohki

Double and triple redundant systems fail often?

Looking at how the plane fell, probably some engine trouble.

Remember the B-2 crash in Guam in 2009? That was simple moisture in one sensor of one of the FCS channels.

When the FCS starts to get conflicting inputs, it can cause the aircraft to be uncontrollable.

The plane was exhibiting a "falling leaf" profile which is what leads me to believe in an FCS malfunction. Engine failures tend to lawn dart.

[Ken-Ohki]

You'll lawn dart as long as you still have airspeed. When speed gets too low, your broadside turns to face the wind.

[Charlie-III]

I read yesterday that a military spokesperson stated, "There was an accident, there was substantial damage to the aircraft".
Ya think?

Maybe just a boilerplate statement.

[Thumper23]

Originally Posted by Ken-Ohki

You'll lawn dart as long as you still have airspeed. When speed gets too low, your broadside turns to face the wind.

In any modern FBW aircraft, the FCS is going to command flight controls to put the nose back into a vector to get airspeed back.

I've done tail slides at 0 airspeed NADIR nose high, we fall backwards, then the nose swings through nose low a couple times as we get airspeed back.

It doesn't do a falling leaf anymore (that used to happen with flight control software from 20 years ago).

[FaastLegacy]

From another website I'm on written by a guy who flies pointy nosed things:

Word I heard is the thing did an uncommanded pitch up to 90 ish degrees nose high, as they tried to get a failed landing gear to retract. Too slow, especially for that kind of attitude. Which might explain the "he was below the airplane in his chute" confusion

[haa-yup!]

that...doesn't make sense

[obyone]

Originally Posted by haa-yup!

that...doesn't make sense

The "uncommanded pitch up" or the why it fell out of the sky?

[Ken-Ohki]

Originally Posted by FaastLegacy

From another website I'm on written by a guy who flies pointy nosed things:

Word I heard is the thing did an uncommanded pitch up to 90 ish degrees nose high, as they tried to get a failed landing gear to retract. Too slow, especially for that kind of attitude. Which might explain the "he was below the airplane in his chute" confusion

In the video, all the landing gear is extended.

[Andy Bernard]

This video starts earlier than the previous one. It sounds to me like the engine is engining.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane...ut_of_the_sky/

[haa-yup!]

Originally Posted by obyone

The "uncommanded pitch up" or the why it fell out of the sky?

the fact that they were low altitude over the airfield with bad gear (you can see his wingman in the video so no need for tower verification)

[FaastLegacy]

Originally Posted by Ken-Ohki

In the video, all the landing gear is extended.

Right, it sounds like they were having problems getting it to retract, so it stands to reason you'd still see it extended in the video.

[Ken-Ohki]

Originally Posted by Andy Bernard

This video starts earlier than the previous one. It sounds to me like the engine is engining.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane...ut_of_the_sky/

There's another jet in the video to the upper left at the beginning. Could be hearing that. But yeah, I've never heard a flyby doppler like the one recorded.

[Furiousd1983]

EA-18G Growler down off the coast of a Whale's Vagina.

Both pilots ejected and are accounted for.

[torquemada]

https://imgur.com/gallery/moment-us-navy-jet-crashes-into-san-diego-bay-nobody-injured-0cTcUhA

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cy8p3qg4911o

[Furiousd1983]

"Perfect form, minimal water disruption... and there it is!... the Russian judge with a 10!"

[lag]

Someone cited "the last time this happened the plane ran into a home and killed a family. Do you think they changed their training to not hit homes?".

I mean. I'm not a pilot much to everyone's confusion when they learn I'm an AF vet. But I got to believe it was never not in training to try to avoid whatever you can avoid once **** has hit the fan. "Let's take out this part that says 'aim for a family home just for ****s and giggles' when a crash is inevitable". -Navy after 70+ years of flight.

"They" didn't say which 'last time' they meant. People at the end of the day are interesting if nothing else.

[samb]

Damn that thing went right under.

[lefty o]

Originally Posted by samb

Damn that thing went right under.

it went in at probably 200mph, did you expect it might gently set down, and then float for a bit??

[Furiousd1983]

As close as that thing was to shore, it probably didn't stop when it reached the bottom

[shiplemw]

A new offshore drilling method proposed by Elon to get rid of old hardware and make a big impact.