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10-07-2020, 03:41 PM | #51 | |
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whether that was an excuse from a marketing team so they didn't have to give a real answer, who knows, but that's what they said.
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10-07-2020, 03:55 PM | #52 |
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Except the engine is not the cost. Toyota's 'premium RWD' transmission choices provide the overwhelming cost.
Packaging killed the FA20DIT, and rather than upset the design, they decided to do the same for round 2. |
10-07-2020, 04:00 PM | #53 | |
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Plus Toyota apparently didn't want turbo on the 86 (?) so why not just keep it all the same for the BRZ. |
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10-07-2020, 04:02 PM | #54 |
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If one's looking for a >300hp/300lb-ft car, stick with the 400Z thread. This thread is for BRZ folks and no need to ruin their excitement.
I'm actually pretty excited myself to drive the next BRZ to see what it is all about. So far the car looks 100x better than the Z. |
10-07-2020, 04:38 PM | #55 |
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So ruining the excitement for the Z in the Z thread by saying it's ugly over and over again is ok but discussing the BRZ isn't ok here? You brought up the Z in this thread and had to call it ugly to prove what exactly?
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10-07-2020, 05:10 PM | #56 |
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I didn't even consider the cost of the manual and auto Aisin trannies; thanks for calling it out.
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10-07-2020, 06:07 PM | #57 | |
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BRZ will never reach 300hp/300lb-ft in stock form so why bother complaining about power here. I have more interest in the BRZ (buy or not is another story) to see what this new engine and car can do as far as perceived speed, and the better appearance is a plus. |
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10-07-2020, 07:18 PM | #59 | |
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10-07-2020, 08:22 PM | #60 |
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Disagree. I'd rather work with 5k rpms than 3k rpms. And I can't stand the minivan moaning fro another decade.
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10-07-2020, 08:35 PM | #61 |
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Looks like it needs a turbo.
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It needs a Yamaha-tuned Toyota I4 mounted at 30deg to the passenger side (a la old BMWs) and some longer (bespoke) front control arms. That would be super easy to boost and relatively cheap to upgrade the internals for reliability under boost, but also provide an excellent tuner platform.
Subaru's junky engine is just going to be the same old Achilles heel in a new wrapper. Or hell, just throw a fancy electronic rear diff and some over-active yaw control on it.. that's all the kids really want these days... a drift mode they can use on the street with no talent. |
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Ah, CJ. Sounding grumpier each day. Don't ever change, homie. Don't ever change.
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hell, if we're making bespoke engines for this thing, why not a small displacement (something in the 2.4 liter range) i6 with a closed deck, D4S injection, and a 48v mild hybrid?
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10-17-2020, 11:43 PM | #67 | |
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10-26-2020, 05:27 PM | #68 |
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mot...ine-japan/amp/
wait a minute, did someone give away the reveal date by mistake or is it for something else even bigger "When contacted for this story, a spokesperson said the American arm of the company had "no comment on future product" and that its "next big news will be on November 17." So, watch this space." Last edited by bugatti0628; 10-26-2020 at 05:36 PM. |
10-27-2020, 08:11 AM | #69 | |
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Hard to tell based on a tiny picture, but it looks good to me. Of course, the old one looks good too, so for me it's going to come down to the weight, interior, and engine.
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It will likely weigh too much for its engine (according to most here) and have a dated interior, although I thought the interior and instrument cluster was neat when the 1st gen first came out.
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11-04-2020, 02:14 PM | #73 |
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I don't get anyone saying that it has a dated interior. it's a functional interior, offering everything I need very close at hand, and the seats are amazingly snug.
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The interior looks like it was designed two generations ago. Same as the STI. That's to be expected when your interiors are average at best and you go so long between generations.
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11-04-2020, 03:35 PM | #75 |
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That photo looks great. Combined with those rear quarter shots we've seen previously, it's gonna be a good looking car. Would be nice if they could give it some more power for additional appeal.
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