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Old 03-27-2021, 02:26 PM   #601
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Your area doesn't sell a lot of Subarus. Being the volume BRZ dealer in a geography irrelevant for BRZ sales makes your anecdotal information...irrelevant. Your store's sales are below the average Subaru dealer's sales. Combine that with the aforementioned, and it makes the conversation not worth having based on your lens. BRZ doesn't sell equitably all over the country. I'm sure if you took a gander at your sales monitoring tool, that would quickly jump out at you.
Well, then, how about I tell you we sold more BRZs that Heuberger for months? And we were selling as many as dealers in the top 20 for total volume. 3 in our DISTRICT are in that top 20. More from our zone are in the top 20. I just told you I'm not fully basing it on MY location. I CAN see national sales. Right here. Right now. Oh Look!!!! They sold 4 more BRZs since that post.
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Old 03-27-2021, 06:00 PM   #602
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Well, then, how about I tell you we sold more BRZs that Heuberger for months? And we were selling as many as dealers in the top 20 for total volume. 3 in our DISTRICT are in that top 20. More from our zone are in the top 20. I just told you I'm not fully basing it on MY location. I CAN see national sales. Right here. Right now. Oh Look!!!! They sold 4 more BRZs since that post.
Is there a reason you're not pointing out that Heuberger hasn't sold a full hands worth of BRZs between this year and last year? You're comparing to a retailer that vacated the BRZ space at some point, while also comparing some brief moment in the sun for your dealership. How are they going to sell what they don't inventory? The bigger question is why they don't want to inventory BRZ...probably low sales. Once again, your geography isn't relevant to the discussion. Being the best in an area with insignificant output isn't an accomplishment. This isn't a conversation you can manipulate. The facts still stand. Where are BRZ's being sold Nationally and tell me if your geography/district registers as a top market for them...spoiler alert... it doesn't. Also, as you've moved the goalposts from my original comment...it still stands.
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Old 03-27-2021, 06:32 PM   #603
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Is there a reason you're not pointing out that Heuberger hasn't sold a full hands worth of BRZs between this year and last year? You're comparing to a retailer that vacated the BRZ space at some point, while also comparing some brief moment in the sun for your dealership. How are they going to sell what they don't inventory? The bigger question is why they don't want to inventory BRZ...probably low sales. Once again, your geography isn't relevant to the discussion. Being the best in an area with insignificant output isn't an accomplishment. This isn't a conversation you can manipulate. The facts still stand. Where are BRZ's being sold Nationally and tell me if your geography/district registers as a top market for them...spoiler alert... it doesn't. Also, as you've moved the goalposts from my original comment...it still stands.

I was saying that when the BRZ was still selling in good numbers, we(the non-volume seller) were selling more than the #1 volume dealer. Funny you say my geography isn't "Subaru"; so, I show a "Subaru" geography, if not THE geography. showing that doesn't matter for the BRZ and you now say that doesn't matter. MY point is that it is at its core, Subaru. Most likey the reason it has held better sales % than Toyota. Toyota will sell more of the next gen because it will be cheaper, bigger network, and probably because of whatever it is they are wanting to do to make it more different this time.


Why don't you email SOA and ask if our area is "insignificant". Our area is what helped "save" Subaru sales last year. And I'll probably have to inform you of our "area". We are a part of the Dallas Zone. So, I am well aware of where sales are.

Oh look. 7 more BRZ sales since that last post.
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Old 03-27-2021, 06:49 PM   #604
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I was saying that when the BRZ was still selling in good numbers, we(the non-volume seller) were selling more than the #1 volume dealer. Funny you say my geography isn't "Subaru"; so, I show a "Subaru" geography, if not THE geography. showing that doesn't matter for the BRZ and you now say that doesn't matter. MY point is that it is at its core, Subaru. Most likey the reason it has held better sales % than Toyota. Toyota will sell more of the next gen because it will be cheaper, bigger network, and probably because of whatever it is they are wanting to do to make it more different this time.


Why don't you email SOA and ask if our area is "insignificant". Our area is what helped "save" Subaru sales last year. And I'll probably have to inform you of our "area". We are a part of the Dallas Zone. So, I am well aware of where sales are.

Oh look. 7 more BRZ sales since that last post.
How is that relevant if Heuberger got out of the BRZ game? Toyota's bigger network, price, etc. should be keeping it much more out in front of BRZ's sales than it has been regardless of the age of vehicle. I showed that wasn't hasn't been the case for a long time contrary to Pre's blanket statement. All of Subaru's lesser areas are apart of "zones" named for major metros. Your "district" isn't in the actual Dallas metro, is it? Also wondering where your "district" ranks within your "zone". Top half? bottom half? It really doesn't matter anyway, your store is below average in Subaru sales.
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Old 03-27-2021, 07:05 PM   #605
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Old 03-27-2021, 07:13 PM   #606
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How is that relevant if Heuberger got out of the BRZ game? Toyota's bigger network, price, etc. should be keeping it much more out in front of BRZ's sales than it has been regardless of the age of vehicle. I showed that wasn't hasn't been the case for a long time contrary to Pre's blanket statement. All of Subaru's lesser areas are apart of "zones" named for major metros. Your "district" isn't in the actual Dallas metro, is it? Also wondering where your "district" ranks within your "zone". Top half? bottom half? It really doesn't matter anyway, your store is below average in Subaru sales.
Weellll. 2 of our districts dealers are in the top 20 nation wide. We are 2 stores. SOA, in their infinite wisdom, split our stores(giving my principle the option of the other store since he is the 55th oldest of all the current dealers) to better serve the area and increase sales as we have. They actually expect us to essentially double our sales from previous years. Not sure how long that will take; but, we are actually above the national average in sales; but, you know....

Pre's blanket statement is that Toyota sells more than Subaru and that will always be true.


The "relevance" was your geography and volume statements. Ignoring that I was saying it didn't matter. Then you said it did and I gave examples then you said it didn't
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Weellll. 2 of our districts dealers are in the top 20 nation wide. We are 2 stores. SOA, in their infinite wisdom, split our stores(giving my principle the option of the other store since he is the 55th oldest of all the current dealers) to better serve the area and increase sales as we have. They actually expect us to essentially double our sales from previous years. Not sure how long that will take; but, we are actually above the national average in sales; but, you know....

Pre's blanket statement is that Toyota sells more than Subaru and that will always be true.


The "relevance" was your geography and volume statements. Ignoring that I was saying it didn't matter. Then you said it did and I gave examples then you said it didn't
Maybe combined... not individually. BRZ and 86 are a wash. If more than doubling your outlets only nets you a couple hundred more vehicles total, then outlets clearly aren't the driving factor. Your geography isn't relevant as it's not the geography that sells BRZ's. These aren't the Uncle Rico glory days. Since BRZ and 86 volumes have smoothed out to a negligible difference, it should be easy to see where the relevant geographies are. You could probably look right now and see where in the country BRZ's are being sold. Your neck of the woods ain't it.
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This is like two dorks arguing over who gets to stir metamucil into this guy's morning tea

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Old 03-27-2021, 09:49 PM   #610
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Nobody cares about your sales numbers or bickering. I'd rather read BS about speculations that the new BRZ comes with a rotary motor Yes, that's how ridiculous you both sound.
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And the winner is, by a very slim margin, JustyWRC with a 14 word decision

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Performance colons are defined in the sedan segment
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We get it, you are edgy and anti-subaru on the internet.
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We get it, you are edgy and anti-subaru on the internet.
And you'd lick Tom Doll's feat if he asked you too. We ALL get that.
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The grandpa sweater in WRC blue really encapsulates modern Subaru performance cars.

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I just bring the facts. oh... and *feet.
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