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11-12-2020, 03:40 PM | #101 |
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You yankees l just make no sense when it comes to COVID whatsoever. It's basically business as usual in Japan because no one takes mask wearing as an attack on freedom. Hell I was in the club last weekend. The worst it got in my area was at my job site. I work outdoors but we have a few common areas. 2week government paid vacation (quarantine). 2freentests both swab, and blood right before going back to work. My wife was off like a month, government gave us another check. My daughters are in school. The oldest there's a mask requirement (year 1 elementary) the 1 year old the staff at the preschool test and masks. There was a short time bars and clubs were closed because a cluster was traced there..again, all owners/employees got paid. Watching your ****ary from afar is mind blowing. SQout
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11-12-2020, 03:52 PM | #102 |
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Wat... it's almost like you're suggesting that governments exist precisely to deal with scenarios that require collective action to address.
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11-12-2020, 03:52 PM | #103 |
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the small glimmer of hope for me lately has been come the Jan 20th, we'll get a more consistent messaging from the top, and leadership by example. This plus the addition of <cross fingers> effective, vetted, fda approve vaccine.
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11-12-2020, 03:55 PM | #104 |
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11-12-2020, 05:52 PM | #105 |
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This is exactly what governments are here to do. To coordinate all our tiny little inputs and outputs toward a greater good sometimes.
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11-12-2020, 06:20 PM | #106 |
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"I understood that the world was nothing: a mechanical chaos of casual, brute enmity on which we stupidly impose our hopes and fears. I understood that, finally and absolutely, I alone exist. All the rest, I saw, is merely what pushes me, or what I push against, blindly—as blindly as all that is not myself pushes back."
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11-12-2020, 06:41 PM | #107 |
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11-12-2020, 06:56 PM | #108 | ||
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2) Yea, we suck right now, if I were a country that wanted to attack the US, now would be the time, let's hope we still pose enough of a threat just thrashing about that we lest we attract the wrong attention. The salt...in the gubbermint wound...is unbearable... |
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11-12-2020, 06:57 PM | #109 | |
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As if we need any more examples of why letting "the rest of us" get back to normal doesn't work:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/healt...vid/index.html Quote:
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11-12-2020, 07:01 PM | #110 |
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Here is some information for anti-maskers to misconstrue, and for the rest of us to read and most of us probably know because it makes sense.
https://reut.rs/3njAk0u That being said, stay vigilant. 30% mortality rate is not 100% less mortality rate, and with cases spiking, the reduced rate is offset by attrition, if you will. |
11-12-2020, 07:36 PM | #111 | |
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11-12-2020, 07:49 PM | #112 |
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11-12-2020, 07:56 PM | #113 | |
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some more winning from the land of cow isht and beer farts.
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11-12-2020, 08:15 PM | #114 |
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Dammit squirrel, hairs lookin’ good.
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11-12-2020, 08:43 PM | #115 | |
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11-13-2020, 05:58 AM | #116 |
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I was putzing around in the corners of http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/ and set it for the Oxford world dataset and looked at case positivity and our levels as a country is moving back towards the worst parts of spring after months of it staying much lower.
And the middle of the country is hot AF, SD if finally reaping the covid of Sturgis, the # of cases, and the Test Positivity Rates has been rising ever since and now it is blowing up at 54%, with those kind of numbers the CFR may bounce up as they run out of hospital beds within range of the state. And all the states around it have freakishly high Test Positivity Rates. |
11-13-2020, 06:04 AM | #117 | |
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I just don't believe we don't have the capacity (or money) in the US military to test EVERY LAST MF'ER that comes into theater. The manhours (and money) we have wasted just shoving people into a 2-week quarantine with no real testing... It just blows my mind. |
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11-13-2020, 06:08 AM | #118 |
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11-13-2020, 06:16 AM | #119 | |
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I don't think the military is all that concerned with whether or not their troops catch Covid. After all, it is currently being tracked in all Risk Assessments and 'mitigated' with mask wearing and social distancing and anyone who gets sick or dies is already baked into the numbers of acceptable losses. Example, my wife's unit recently went to NTC (a training exercise already known for having real world casualties per cycle) and they instituted mask wearing and social distancing mandates but anyone who's been to NTC or been deployed knows just how close you get in close quarters work. A tent no larger than a 1 car garage may hold the workspaces of over 15 people and even more so when you have to brief a mission. It's also more difficult to be heard during briefings wearing a mask so guess what happens? Yup, they just don't wear the masks. Surprise surprise, people got sick. The aftermath was they completed NTC, didn't have enough test capability to test everyone and get the results before the entire division was to be released and everyone, everyone was sent home to quarantine which meant now about 400 families were possibly exposed, very few tests completed. My wife had to get a civilian test for herself. Once the results came back, over 60 came back positive and a week later, one died. Worse, they then thought they had everything under control and brought everyone back but a week after that, their positivity rate shot through the roof and now the entire base is shut down with everyone ordered to work remotely...minus essential personnel. And that's just one base. |
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11-13-2020, 06:22 AM | #120 |
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Oh, I think even the "quarantine" we do is just a window dressing. We want the illusion that we are doing something to mitigate spread but in actuality, we're really not. I still go to meetings, I sit less the 6' from my coworker. I wear a mask when I get up to talk to other teams.
Honestly I don't think the military wants to know how many COVID cases (probably lots and lots of asymptomatic folks) there is amognst the ranks. |
11-13-2020, 06:44 AM | #121 |
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...and someone at work came in sick and was positive. Its a very small building too.
Glad I wasnt there that specific day, but Ill be working from home for the next few days. |
11-13-2020, 09:01 AM | #122 | |
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NOT leaving the house for 2 weeks? No grocery runs. No walking in the hallway of a condo/apartment. Sticking to your yard if you have one. No picking up the kids (if a parent is isolating). Living in a separate part of the house etc etc. As for work, the numbers are skyrocketing EVERYWHERE, even in Canada. Positives: Our support staff are paid for the 2 weeks they are off if they have to isolate. Mask use indoors is near 99.9% minus the same 2 people I see who wear a chin mask. No MASSIVE outbreaks at work, and the ones that have been flagged have been controlled for now. Sign me up for a vaccine when one becomes available. |
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11-13-2020, 09:04 AM | #123 | |
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I agree the infrastructure for the regular world is just not there. We had our chance back in March and April to shut everything down and stop this thing in its tracks. We didn't do that. Too many FREEDUMB! people. |
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11-13-2020, 09:17 AM | #124 |
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"Self Quarantine" is a non-solution solution, so the government can take no responsibility for what happens. Of course there's no infrastructure to actually make it feasible, or support families asked to do the (almost) impossible, or businesses asked to absorb the costs/logistics of losing their workforce.
In real countries that took this seriously, the government actually facilitates your quarantine by delivering (and in most cases, paying for) supplies so that you really can get by without interacting with the outside world. In some cases, they've even booked out hotels and put people up in them when their normal living arrangements aren't compatible with quarantine. Of course, those countries are also containing their outbreaks much better than us, which means there aren't literally hundreds of thousands or even millions of people who should be in quarantine either... Last edited by ForceFed4; 11-13-2020 at 09:38 AM. |
11-13-2020, 09:30 AM | #125 |
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