Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Tuesday March 19, 2024
Home Forums Images WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Miscellaneous > Off-Topic

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.







* As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-12-2020, 12:08 PM   #76
The Motel Fella
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 140147
Join Date: Feb 2007
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Lynchburg, VA
Default

Victoria, Australia is an island (duh), and both South Korea and Taiwan are China. They of course didn't infect themselves outside the initial "Oops I did it again...I ate funky bat...I wrecked the US. Oh baby baby"
trololol
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
The Motel Fella is offline  
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 11-12-2020, 12:18 PM   #77
xenocide
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 33012
Join Date: Feb 2003
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Vehicle:
2002 Impreza

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Motel Fella View Post
Victoria, Australia is an island (duh), and both South Korea and Taiwan are China. They of course didn't infect themselves outside the initial "Oops I did it again...I ate funky bat...I wrecked the US. Oh baby baby"
trololol
Yeah the trolls point out that the countries with the best response border water but then they ignore Canada, Germany, Argentina, Vietnam and others which had good responses relative to their neighbors.


I see what you did there
xenocide is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:18 PM   #78
chapstien
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 68284
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Constant confusion
Vehicle:
2017 Backout
Rally America Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reciprocity View Post
IB some sort of ridiculous altruism "contest".
You wouldn't say stuff like that if you knew what it did to other peoples psycho.
chapstien is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:21 PM   #79
parker
Member Status: Member
 
Member#: 46241
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Orison, Crusader. Stanton
Vehicle:
- Can I get
a wayo

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xenocide View Post
Yeah the trolls point out that the countries with the best response border water but then they ignore Canada, Germany, Argentina, Vietnam and others which had good responses relative to their neighbors.
Almost like those people aren't ****holes.
parker is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:22 PM   #80
Reciprocity
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1165
Join Date: Mar 2000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chapstien View Post
You wouldn't say stuff like that if you knew what it did to other peoples psycho.
What is other people's psycho?
Reciprocity is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:25 PM   #81
taxcider
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 6837
Join Date: May 2001
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Elbow deep in parietal cortex.
Vehicle:
04 Stinky Lucy

Default

Happy to report that my dad seems to have done okay with COVID.

He's 85, living in a retirement place in St. Louis. Diagnosed on 10/24, (I think), tested negative last week, was able to leave his apartment this week. Talking on the phone, his breathing was noticeable, but has improved. He says it exhausted the hell out of him, he was sleeping 11-12 hours a night and felt low energy most of the time. No treatment was given, he ate some vitamins, etc, and the hospital called to check on him daily. He bitched a LOT about his boredom.

Really glad he did okay - I dig my dad, he's a terrific guy. He has always been relatively active and in good health. Still keeping my fingers crossed for no longer term issues.

Lost my uncle (also 85) to it a few months back, he had to be put on a vent for a few days, improved a lot, went home, then crashed badly and died.
taxcider is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:40 PM   #82
ForceFed4
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 7370
Join Date: Jun 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: An arsenal of profanity...
Vehicle:
2013 5.0
SGM

Default

Glad to hear about your dad. I really dread a phone call from my parents saying they're positive. Luckily, they're super paranoid and careful. We had planned to try to isolate and see them over Christmas, but I think we've now abandoned that plan with the current direction the outbreak is heading.
ForceFed4 is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:40 PM   #83
rogue
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7977
Join Date: Jul 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Sterling, VA
Vehicle:
100% Abuse

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xenocide View Post
Yeah the trolls point out that the countries with the best response border water but then they ignore Canada, Germany, Argentina, Vietnam and others which had good responses relative to their neighbors.


I see what you did there
Canada's response is kind of variable. But fortunately for them the virus is not transmitted through moose.
rogue is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:43 PM   #84
Thumper23
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 11571
Join Date: Oct 2001
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: Park City, UT
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 340Duster View Post
This is why I don't care. Yes I still abide by anyone's mask rules. Yes I know how to wash my hands. But here are the important facts. Also yes I've had to be in quarantine after contact tracing from a known positive. I had 2 days of a lessened sense of taste, but the army doesn't test unless you have acute symptoms (or ironically are a new trainee coming in).

Instead people are getting quarantined in droves, for something that is doing nothing to the overwhelming majority of the force. Simply put we can't get **** done. To keep treating it like it's the kiss of death is assinine.
Dude, no offense but I've spent 4 weeks in quarantine (2 in ROM then another 2 in quarantine upon arriving in theater).

Should we be doing it better? Yes. We should be testing everyone who gets into theater but we don't.

We had a COVID case 2 weeks ago. Fortunately it didn't spread through the center (we contact traced and through a bunch of people into isolation). If it did, a lot of big things would have come to a halt. National strategy bad.

There are some places that can't afford to even have one case.
Thumper23 is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:44 PM   #85
samb
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 177235
Join Date: Apr 2008
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Washington
Vehicle:
2016 Focus RS
2002 WRX Wagon

Default

"Just the flu."

The flu is a ****ing scary virus. It's unfortunate we do not give it the respect it deserves.

Anyways, I'm in the middle of my second quarantine so far this year after coming into contact with someone who has tested positive. What's crazy though is that it took them a week to identify it and notify me, and the last time it took almost 5 days. Luckily I'm pay protected this time.

Last edited by samb; 11-12-2020 at 01:44 PM.
samb is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:44 PM   #86
etothen
Ethon
 
Member#: 221885
Join Date: Aug 2009
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Portlandia
Vehicle:
2050 Ivory Tower
Ivory...duh

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blue-sun View Post
I live in the Midwest.

On Halloween, the sheer number of people out trick or treating in my neighborhood was ridiculous. They were shoulder to shoulder, about 10-20% of the people I saw were wearing masks. I said that day we'd be having record numbers and here we are.

None of this surprises me.
There was zero trick or treating in NW Portland, and we already have one of the lowest cases/100,000 in the country urban or rural, it is possible those things are connected. Unreasonably reasonable people being unreasonably reasonable so that we don't suffer needless deaths. But then our protestors wear masks, not wearing a mask is not considered appropriate civil disobedience, it is considered bad for public health, which it is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rogue View Post
****'s going up. **** should be going down, or at best staying level. When ****'s going up, it's time to do some **** so **** maybe stops going up.
New cases
11/11 143K
11/10 140K
11/09 119K
11/08 109K
11/07 128K
11/06 124K
11/05 125K

30 days ago when the people that are dying now got it
10/12 40K (weekend)
10/11 50K
10/10 57K
10/09 52K

The roughly corolating last for days of deaths
11/11 1892
11/10 1436
11/09 690 (weekend)
11/08 462 (weekend)
11/07 1036
11/06 1154
11/05 1173

So early/mid December we can expect to be in the 3K deaths/day range roughly and that is baked into the cake. I had expected to se the daily case rate to inflect and be slowing it's rise about now, but it looks like the national alarm goin out leading to more cautious behavior is delayed further and we are looking at more days if quickly rising cases than I expected. This will make the spring death bump look pretty tame.



Quote:
Originally Posted by fliz View Post
There was a first nationwide closure?


Any closure will have to come from the federal level, because in quite a few states, courts have struck down governor's orders, and many state legislatures have refused to do anything.


The CDC has finally seemed to realize we're not turning the corner in two weeks. Forecasts now show weekly case #s continuing to rise for the next month. Previous forecasts showed it flattening out.

Nov 10 - dec 15 and those models are predicting 1/2-1 mil cases? So, 20 days at the current rate, assuming the daily case count does not climb and stays just at the running smoothed 7 day average for the last week 127K X 20 days = 2,500,000 new cases by Dec 1.

If it keeps going up like it is, could be 3-4,000,000 new cases?

Those models seem extremely conservative, the simple box models I am creating are giving ranges between 2-4,000,000 new cases by then. Guess we will see. I really hope I am just completely wrong, that would be great, and my super simple models overshot in the end of the summer/beginning of fall so here's to hoping they are wrong again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reciprocity View Post
This Thanksgiving will be a wonderful repeat of history...Americans passing on a disease to those unable to fight it off.
Yea, and unlike all the other holidays Thanksgiving is all about intergenerational re-connection and will infect, as you point out, "those unable to fight it off.".
etothen is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 12:49 PM   #87
Reciprocity
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1165
Join Date: Mar 2000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by etothen View Post
Yea, and unlike all the other holidays Thanksgiving is all about intergenerational re-connection and will infect, as you point out, "those unable to fight it off.".
I ain't going to visit/share space with anyone for Thanksgiving nor Xmas. It's not worth it.
Reciprocity is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 01:21 PM   #88
Bonzo
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2307
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: West of Rd Am
Vehicle:
2018 KTM500EXC
Orange

Default COVID-19... gonna be COVID-1 Million soon. WEAR A MASK AND DON'T QUOTE TROLLS

For those that don’t mask or think this virus is no big deal, ask them one question.

Who have they designated to suffer permanent disabilities or death? Is this a relative or friend?




Anywho, Go Badgers!

The spread of COVID-19 across Wisconsin is off the charts, literally.

So many counties are so far past the Dept. of Health Services' highest classification for case activity, that it needed to create a brand new category. And, although its minimum cutoff is nearly three times higher than the old top category:


https://www.nbc15.com/2020/11/12/cov...-new-category/
Bonzo is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 01:28 PM   #89
rogue
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7977
Join Date: Jul 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Sterling, VA
Vehicle:
100% Abuse

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonzo View Post
For those that don’t mask or think this virus is no big deal, ask them one question.

Who have they designated to suffer permanent disabilities or death? Is this a relative or friend?




Anywho, Go Badgers!

The spread of COVID-19 across Wisconsin is off the charts, literally.

So many counties are so far past the Dept. of Health Services' highest classification for case activity, that it needed to create a brand new category. And, although its minimum cutoff is nearly three times higher than the old top category:


https://www.nbc15.com/2020/11/12/cov...-new-category/


Just lock your door and duck tape the edges.
rogue is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 01:31 PM   #90
Bonzo
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2307
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: West of Rd Am
Vehicle:
2018 KTM500EXC
Orange

Default

This morning I was pleasantly surprised the owners of my workplace made masks mandatory... again.

We will see how long this lasts.
Bonzo is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 01:50 PM   #91
delongedoug
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 124113
Join Date: Aug 2006
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Rich Coast
Vehicle:
Pura vida!
Yellow V standing by

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonzo View Post
For those that don’t mask or think this virus is no big deal, ask them one question.

Who have they designated to suffer permanent disabilities or death? Is this a relative or friend?




Anywho, Go Badgers!

The spread of COVID-19 across Wisconsin is off the charts, literally.

So many counties are so far past the Dept. of Health Services' highest classification for case activity, that it needed to create a brand new category. And, although its minimum cutoff is nearly three times higher than the old top category:


https://www.nbc15.com/2020/11/12/cov...-new-category/
It's a good thing the cheese state is so healt-... oh, right.
delongedoug is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 02:07 PM   #92
rogue
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7977
Join Date: Jul 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Sterling, VA
Vehicle:
100% Abuse

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by delongedoug View Post
It's a good thing the cheese state is so healt-... oh, right.
They should be fine, the virus doesn't like warm weath-... oh, right.
rogue is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 02:43 PM   #93
340Duster
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 52314
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Following the green weenie
Vehicle:
... 02 and 04 WRXs!
2020 G70 3.3T RWD

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thumper23 View Post
Dude, no offense but I've spent 4 weeks in quarantine (2 in ROM then another 2 in quarantine upon arriving in theater).



Should we be doing it better? Yes. We should be testing everyone who gets into theater but we don't.



We had a COVID case 2 weeks ago. Fortunately it didn't spread through the center (we contact traced and through a bunch of people into isolation). If it did, a lot of big things would have come to a halt. National strategy bad.



There are some places that can't afford to even have one case.
That's how some areas are and it works (USFK). It baffles me that they can afford to test all incoming people entering basicwith a 2 hour turn around. But can't do it to permanent party people here who get caught in contact tracing from a report. Just instant ROM... We have 3 batteries that have probably half of their formations in quarantine.
340Duster is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 02:45 PM   #94
Tilapia
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 42454
Join Date: Aug 2003
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: AZ
Default

Has anyone been quarantined from work? You get paid still or have to use PTO/vacation time? My work would be PTO if you don't have it but in contact with someone who did have it.
Tilapia is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 02:46 PM   #95
Bonzo
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2307
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: West of Rd Am
Vehicle:
2018 KTM500EXC
Orange

Default





Quote:
Originally Posted by delongedoug View Post
It's a good thing the cheese state is so healt-... oh, right.
wait... you mean beer, cheese and brats aren't the 4 food groups?
Bonzo is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 02:47 PM   #96
rogue
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7977
Join Date: Jul 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Sterling, VA
Vehicle:
100% Abuse

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonzo View Post






wait... you mean beer, cheese and brats aren't the 4 food groups?
*counts on fingers*
rogue is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 02:55 PM   #97
chapstien
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 68284
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Constant confusion
Vehicle:
2017 Backout
Rally America Blue

Default

I've had a site "The Brain From Top To Bottom" on my favorites bar for some time. It's neat in that you can set the level of the information presented to different degrees of familiarity, so it's accessible to a lot of people. Reading stuff here, and other things about how our thinking works, I've relaxed how I think about mindsets, including my own. And my own biases.



Quote:
THE WIRED BRAIN

THE HORMONAL BRAIN

The connections that make the brain a "wired" organ are made possible by the extensions of its neurons, which are called axons. These axons can be distributed diffusely or concentrated in bundles that form the brain's white matter.

No nerve impulse ever encounters a "dead end" in the brain. The point where it arrives in any part of the brain is always a potential point of departure toward other neurons. This assemblage of billions of circuits that loop back on themselves makes it very difficult to have "entirely rational thoughts" or "purely emotional reactions"

I also been with a woman for about 18 months now that is very far apart from me on stuff like medical interventions. I am very evidenced-based. She is very steeped in complimentary medicine. In a lot of other parts of her like, she is not dependent on anecdotal evidence, be not here. She is also bullish about it, and feels her knowledge is experience that demands respect. So I should detox my liver. I asked her if she know how the liver works, and that it is not a filter, but a two-step chemical plant. It's job is to be full of toxins, bind to them and send them off to sanitation for further processing. She found that interesting, then went on about all the toxins that are positioning me.

She got some Arnica creme for arthritis. "It has arnica in it and it works great." It has like 0.01 x 10^ -7 % Arnica. Now, I am not against doing things that actually work, but I am not going to be spending 10 days outside in a tent stuffed with sage for an intervention if I get COVID19. She has made it clear that if she gets it, the last thing she wants is care from medical doctors, specifically being admitted to a hospital, and she does not really believe the other results, like blood clots, and new capillary growth, etc "What did they do, perform autopsies? No, because the families can't afford that. They can't know that. People have blood clots in them all the time." I may make a counter statement, but I don't get into a discussion because it's pointless. Like, "Yes, they investigate as part of the effort to understand the new disease. It's not on the families, it's on taxpayers."

This was all very bothersome to me, that she has so much contempt for Western medicine and it's practitioners, and the entire traditional healthcare system. She is a care taker, and she treats practitioners with great distrust. She also thinks that because I see a Dr., I automatically just do whatever it is they tell me.

She also believes that the things that may help her with a medical issue, that substance can't harm her if it doesn't work, and these things work for some people because of their energy or whatever. She keeps pushing folic acid on me for an antihistamine. "It works for me, but it only lasts an hour or two. Some people it doesn't work for."

But she's where she is, and believes it's truth as much as I believe in mine. Actually more. I have room for believing some of hers, and disbelieving some of mine, like a Dr telling me to watch salt so I don't get the high blood pressure. Years ago I changed my belief about that.
chapstien is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 03:10 PM   #98
Reciprocity
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1165
Join Date: Mar 2000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilapia View Post
Has anyone been quarantined from work? You get paid still or have to use PTO/vacation time? My work would be PTO if you don't have it but in contact with someone who did have it.
We were given additional "COVID" time off that's in addition to the sick time & PTO we have (and CTO if you've accrued it). I forget exactly how much COVID time we were given and I believe it expires at the end of this year (use it or lose it).

But it was done kinda poorly (or the staff was dumb, you make the call) - Although it was labeled as "use this time if you get COVID or need to care for someone that has" there was no requirement of proof. It was treated like sick time...as in you don't need your supervisors approval, you take it as you need it. So many people (IMO) abused it...just used it like it was auto-approved vacation time. That + the large number of furloughing we did with staff = daily emails from units saying they are understaffed and need assistance.
Reciprocity is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 03:19 PM   #99
ForceFed4
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 7370
Join Date: Jun 2001
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: An arsenal of profanity...
Vehicle:
2013 5.0
SGM

Default

I "love" the alternative medicine "you're full of toxins and should detox" people.

No. That's not how the body works. If "toxins" start building up in your body, bad **** starts happening real fast. Like, "trip to the ER with multiple organ failures" fast... And you can't fix it with carrot juice.

It's like the joke goes, "What do you call alternative medicine with proof?" A: "Medicine."

That's not to say that Western Medicine has all the answers, there's plenty of stuff that hasn't been adequately tested or thought of yet. But unproven is unproven, at best.
ForceFed4 is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 03:26 PM   #100
chapstien
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 68284
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Constant confusion
Vehicle:
2017 Backout
Rally America Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reciprocity View Post
What is other people's psycho?
It's like a psyche, but when you say things, and they lose their mind because they internally can't be wrong, so they just get angry at pretty much everything and everybody for a bit.
chapstien is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.

As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.

When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission
Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.