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Old 06-14-2018, 05:03 PM   #7251
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Post deleted. So this means you bought it?
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Wife was moderately interested in the idea, but never got beyond that.


She did ask where the kiddo would sit, I told her his car seat would fit in the passenger seat
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:14 PM   #7252
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Wife was moderately interested in the idea, but never got beyond that.


She did ask where the kiddo would sit, I told her his car seat would fit in the passenger seat
Next time just buy before asking. It's two against one with the kid on board.
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:02 PM   #7253
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Haven't posted here in years (or anywhere on the internet), but got my first P-car! Wheels and Cobb AP already ordered...should make it a fun family hauler








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Old 06-14-2018, 07:34 PM   #7254
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I drove a 570S last month. It was by far the fastest thing I've ever been in. I haven't driven the new turbo S, but per the stats it a bit faster than that. It was almost terrifying. Feels great to cruise around in. Sounds great. Looks greater. Was not a fan of the brake feel, and the suspension while smooth feels much more detached than my GT4 was that felt so raw and planted.
i have the .2 turbo s and my brother has the 570s. turbo s is faster in a straight line which actually surprised me. around the track we both got faster times with the turbo s and that's on stock tires. we're both sure if the turbo s is equipped with cup 2's the 570 wouldn't stand a chance.

i think you have to be a pro driver to be able to get faster laps on the 570s over the turbo s. but for average joe's like us, we'll be faster on the trubo s.

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I am wrestling with this conundrum (good problem to have)....New GT3 or used 570S...

I currently have a 991.1 C2S and am on the waitlist for the new GT3 which I would proudly get in a 6 speed btw. But something about the 570S is calling to me. Seems much more exotic, more raw, looks amazing. Clearly would sacrifice on build quality, general car-ness (as the 911 is a better all around car), and it would be bit harsh in NYC.

Anyone have thoughts on this? Either car, like my current car, is a fun weekender. I don't commute in it or anything. Prob put 3k miles on it a year.

Also part me thinks I should just keep my C2S... the incremental usable performance on street driving for either car is marginal... and the $100k for essentially another 100hp in the case of the GT3 or baby exotic ownership in NYC (headache?) may just not be worth it...but then again that's using my brain not my heart on a sports car decision which may not be the way to do it..
you'd be crazy to get the 570s over the new gt3 especially if you can get one in manual. imo the gt3 is the next best drivers car, 1st would be 458/458 speciale.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:57 PM   #7255
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Haven't posted here in years (or anywhere on the internet), but got my first P-car! Wheels and Cobb AP already ordered...should make it a fun family hauler


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Old 06-14-2018, 08:32 PM   #7256
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Im a Gold Level (master) Porsche Technician with 6+ years of Porsche experience and 10 years of automotive experience ... AMA?

i aint perfect but ill answer the questions that i can
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:23 AM   #7257
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Im a Gold Level (master) Porsche Technician with 6+ years of Porsche experience and 10 years of automotive experience ... AMA?

i aint perfect but ill answer the questions that i can
1. Most/least reliable car?

2. How would you stereotype Porsche owners? Just curious, since you're the most qualified out of all of us to answer this.

3. Any interesting stories?
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:55 AM   #7258
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i actually really like the macan, the thing usb quick too, while I’ve only driven the macan s 340hp in that little car sure makes it scoot
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:06 AM   #7259
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The Macan is really nice. I've driven a GTS at a Porsche Driving Experience, and then had an S as a loaner when my car was in for an oil change. Comfy, good driving dynamics, and plenty of power for a small SUV / CUV. I would have one if the towing capacity was a bit higher. Wound up with a V8 Grand Cherokee instead.
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:10 PM   #7260
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dudes, I need help identifying this wheel!

Bent the rim and need a new valve / stem.
My wheel guy can't figure it out either.



Yes I know it's dirty
Thanks for any help!
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:25 PM   #7261
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Doesn't look factory. Or do we already know that?
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:43 PM   #7262
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Any markings on the inside of the wheel?
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:47 PM   #7263
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Yeah. There should be some sort of casting marks and, hopefully, and manufacturer name / logo.
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:25 PM   #7264
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BBS ch-r ii ?
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Old 06-16-2018, 09:01 AM   #7265
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1. Most/least reliable car?

2. How would you stereotype Porsche owners? Just curious, since you're the most qualified out of all of us to answer this.

3. Any interesting stories?

Most Porsche's, if maintained properly are pretty reliable, however if i had to pick,(not factoring in old cars like 944, 968 etc. ) i would say VR6 Cayennes or Early Panameras, and maybe 986 boxsters, would be my pick for least reliable. But the main reason for that is because most of the people who own older cayennes and boxsters don't have the money to properly maintain them, so we see a lot of rough ones. Theres a difference between owning a Porsche and Maintaining a Porsche, Anyone can buy one, but it takes money to maintain them.

Most reliable i would say DFI 997. and maybe late non-DFI 997 (07ish)... they're just good cars, most people take care of them, and we don't see a lot of major issues

(bear in mind this is my personal opinion)


There are several Types of Porsche owners. i could write pages about that, but ill just say my favorite type and least favorite type.

Favorite - The guy(or gal) that just loves Porsche, has the money to properly take care of the car, really cool to talk to but doesn't breath over your shoulder when your trying to work. understands if something goes wrong or a repair takes longer than expected because this is life and **** happens.

Least Favorite - Barely has the money to make the payments on the car, always trying to get free stuff, thinks everything should be warranty, even if the car if long out of warranty. asks me to work on their car on the side/weekends. watches over your shoulder when your working, loses their mind and acts like the world is ending if something goes wrong or a repair takes longer than expected.


And ill leave you with a pretty interesting story.

Let me preface this story with this- All new Porsches come with AGM batteries, they are maintenance free, meaning you never have to add water to the cells.

We had a customer buy a brand new 981. The car got towed in about a month after he bought it for a "Crank no Start". So i get the keys and go out to it, try to start it, sure enough, cranks over, doesn't start. Another thing i noticed is when i turned the key on and the air conditioning started blowing, there was an extremely strong fuel Smell. So i open the front trunk, lift up the cover for the battery(the battery sits directly over the fuel tank). And i see that all the warning labels have been scraped off the top of the battery, and there are pick and screwdriver marks all over all the caps for the cells, i look down at the top of the fuel tank, and the "fuel hat" has been completely eaten through by battery acid and destroyed.

The customer had removed the warning labels that say "do not open" (total of 7 of them, one sticker and one on each cell cap) prayed off all the caps, saw that the battery had no water in it (its not supposed to have water, its an AGM battery) and filled all of the cells with water. causing the battery to fail and spew acid out of the vent and down on to his fuel tank, where it ate through the hat and into the tank

We ended up replacing the entire fuel system, from fuel tank to injectors. Expensive mistake.
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Old 06-16-2018, 10:18 AM   #7266
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Most Porsche's, if maintained properly are pretty reliable, however if i had to pick,(not factoring in old cars like 944, 968 etc. ) i would say VR6 Cayennes or Early Panameras, and maybe 986 boxsters, would be my pick for least reliable. But the main reason for that is because most of the people who own older cayennes and boxsters don't have the money to properly maintain them, so we see a lot of rough ones. Theres a difference between owning a Porsche and Maintaining a Porsche, Anyone can buy one, but it takes money to maintain them.

Most reliable i would say DFI 997. and maybe late non-DFI 997 (07ish)... they're just good cars, most people take care of them, and we don't see a lot of major issues

(bear in mind this is my personal opinion)


There are several Types of Porsche owners. i could write pages about that, but ill just say my favorite type and least favorite type.

Favorite - The guy(or gal) that just loves Porsche, has the money to properly take care of the car, really cool to talk to but doesn't breath over your shoulder when your trying to work. understands if something goes wrong or a repair takes longer than expected because this is life and **** happens.

Least Favorite - Barely has the money to make the payments on the car, always trying to get free stuff, thinks everything should be warranty, even if the car if long out of warranty. asks me to work on their car on the side/weekends. watches over your shoulder when your working, loses their mind and acts like the world is ending if something goes wrong or a repair takes longer than expected.


And ill leave you with a pretty interesting story.

Let me preface this story with this- All new Porsches come with AGM batteries, they are maintenance free, meaning you never have to add water to the cells.

We had a customer buy a brand new 981. The car got towed in about a month after he bought it for a "Crank no Start". So i get the keys and go out to it, try to start it, sure enough, cranks over, doesn't start. Another thing i noticed is when i turned the key on and the air conditioning started blowing, there was an extremely strong fuel Smell. So i open the front trunk, lift up the cover for the battery(the battery sits directly over the fuel tank). And i see that all the warning labels have been scraped off the top of the battery, and there are pick and screwdriver marks all over all the caps for the cells, i look down at the top of the fuel tank, and the "fuel hat" has been completely eaten through by battery acid and destroyed.

The customer had removed the warning labels that say "do not open" (total of 7 of them, one sticker and one on each cell cap) prayed off all the caps, saw that the battery had no water in it (its not supposed to have water, its an AGM battery) and filled all of the cells with water. causing the battery to fail and spew acid out of the vent and down on to his fuel tank, where it ate through the hat and into the tank

We ended up replacing the entire fuel system, from fuel tank to injectors. Expensive mistake.
Oh man, great story
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Old 06-16-2018, 12:36 PM   #7267
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:46 PM   #7268
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Most Porsche's, if maintained properly are pretty reliable, however if i had to pick,(not factoring in old cars like 944, 968 etc. ) i would say VR6 Cayennes or Early Panameras, and maybe 986 boxsters, would be my pick for least reliable. But the main reason for that is because most of the people who own older cayennes and boxsters don't have the money to properly maintain them, so we see a lot of rough ones. Theres a difference between owning a Porsche and Maintaining a Porsche, Anyone can buy one, but it takes money to maintain them.

Most reliable i would say DFI 997. and maybe late non-DFI 997 (07ish)... they're just good cars, most people take care of them, and we don't see a lot of major issues

(bear in mind this is my personal opinion)


There are several Types of Porsche owners. i could write pages about that, but ill just say my favorite type and least favorite type.

Favorite - The guy(or gal) that just loves Porsche, has the money to properly take care of the car, really cool to talk to but doesn't breath over your shoulder when your trying to work. understands if something goes wrong or a repair takes longer than expected because this is life and **** happens.

Least Favorite - Barely has the money to make the payments on the car, always trying to get free stuff, thinks everything should be warranty, even if the car if long out of warranty. asks me to work on their car on the side/weekends. watches over your shoulder when your working, loses their mind and acts like the world is ending if something goes wrong or a repair takes longer than expected.


And ill leave you with a pretty interesting story.

Let me preface this story with this- All new Porsches come with AGM batteries, they are maintenance free, meaning you never have to add water to the cells.

We had a customer buy a brand new 981. The car got towed in about a month after he bought it for a "Crank no Start". So i get the keys and go out to it, try to start it, sure enough, cranks over, doesn't start. Another thing i noticed is when i turned the key on and the air conditioning started blowing, there was an extremely strong fuel Smell. So i open the front trunk, lift up the cover for the battery(the battery sits directly over the fuel tank). And i see that all the warning labels have been scraped off the top of the battery, and there are pick and screwdriver marks all over all the caps for the cells, i look down at the top of the fuel tank, and the "fuel hat" has been completely eaten through by battery acid and destroyed.

The customer had removed the warning labels that say "do not open" (total of 7 of them, one sticker and one on each cell cap) prayed off all the caps, saw that the battery had no water in it (its not supposed to have water, its an AGM battery) and filled all of the cells with water. causing the battery to fail and spew acid out of the vent and down on to his fuel tank, where it ate through the hat and into the tank

We ended up replacing the entire fuel system, from fuel tank to injectors. Expensive mistake.
I was left money by my dad when he passed and I have always wanted a 911 but being a teacher I was realistic in the fact that if something went wrong I really didn't want to deplete my savings. So I bought a G37 Hardtop Convertible instead and got an extended warranty for the top. Still my dream car a 911 TT Maybe one day

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i would say VR6 Cayennes or Early Panameras, and maybe 986 boxsters, would be my pick for least reliable. But the main reason for that is because most of the people who own older cayennes and boxsters don't have the money to properly maintain them, so we see a lot of rough ones. Theres a difference between owning a Porsche and Maintaining a Porsche, Anyone can buy one, but it takes money to maintain them.
I don't look down upon anyone for buying older model used Porsches just because they're used, I like seeing those things being maintained and kept running on the roads, but like any demographic, they tend to attract buyers with a more limited budget, and they so want that Porsche ownership badge that they stretch just the buy the car and then having nothing left for maintenance and upkeep.

It's like, buy something in a little more within your means and then try to maintain it properly.

As far as new owners go struggling to maintain payments or can barely afford their insurance, yeah, I look down upon them too. I didn't even touch buying my first new Porsche til financially everything made the most sense for me (I claim part of the costs as a business expense for my pass through corporation).
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Least Favorite - Barely has the money to make the payments on the car, always trying to get free stuff, thinks everything should be warranty, even if the car if long out of warranty. asks me to work on their car on the side/weekends. watches over your shoulder when your working, loses their mind and acts like the world is ending if something goes wrong or a repair takes longer than expected.
Me. Definitely me.
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I don't look down upon anyone for buying older model used Porsches just because they're used, I like seeing those things being maintained and kept running on the roads, but like any demographic, they tend to attract buyers with a more limited budget, and they so want that Porsche ownership badge that they stretch just the buy the car and then having nothing left for maintenance and upkeep.

It's like, buy something in a little more within your means and then try to maintain it properly.

As far as new owners go struggling to maintain payments or can barely afford their insurance, yeah, I look down upon them too. I didn't even touch buying my first new Porsche til financially everything made the most sense for me (I claim part of the costs as a business expense for my pass through corporation).
There's a difference between doing something and doing something well. I have the the utmost respect for someone who owns a used Porsche a d takes care of it. I don't have respect for someone who buys one for the badge and treats it like ****.

One of the 25 year olds in the office just got a new Macan. As far as I know she isn't married and makes $50kish a year. Not a smart move.
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There's a difference between doing something and doing something well. I have the the utmost respect for someone who owns a used Porsche a d takes care of it. I don't have respect for someone who buys one for the badge and treats it like ****.

One of the 25 year olds in the office just got a new Macan. As far as I know she isn't married and makes $50kish a year. Not a smart move.
I agree with this
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Most Porsche's, if maintained properly are pretty reliable, however if i had to pick,(not factoring in old cars like 944, 968 etc. ) i would say VR6 Cayennes or Early Panameras, and maybe 986 boxsters, would be my pick for least reliable. But the main reason for that is because most of the people who own older cayennes and boxsters don't have the money to properly maintain them, so we see a lot of rough ones. Theres a difference between owning a Porsche and Maintaining a Porsche, Anyone can buy one, but it takes money to maintain them.

Most reliable i would say DFI 997. and maybe late non-DFI 997 (07ish)... they're just good cars, most people take care of them, and we don't see a lot of major issues

(bear in mind this is my personal opinion)


There are several Types of Porsche owners. i could write pages about that, but ill just say my favorite type and least favorite type.

Favorite - The guy(or gal) that just loves Porsche, has the money to properly take care of the car, really cool to talk to but doesn't breath over your shoulder when your trying to work. understands if something goes wrong or a repair takes longer than expected because this is life and **** happens.

Least Favorite - Barely has the money to make the payments on the car, always trying to get free stuff, thinks everything should be warranty, even if the car if long out of warranty. asks me to work on their car on the side/weekends. watches over your shoulder when your working, loses their mind and acts like the world is ending if something goes wrong or a repair takes longer than expected.


And ill leave you with a pretty interesting story.

Let me preface this story with this- All new Porsches come with AGM batteries, they are maintenance free, meaning you never have to add water to the cells.

We had a customer buy a brand new 981. The car got towed in about a month after he bought it for a "Crank no Start". So i get the keys and go out to it, try to start it, sure enough, cranks over, doesn't start. Another thing i noticed is when i turned the key on and the air conditioning started blowing, there was an extremely strong fuel Smell. So i open the front trunk, lift up the cover for the battery(the battery sits directly over the fuel tank). And i see that all the warning labels have been scraped off the top of the battery, and there are pick and screwdriver marks all over all the caps for the cells, i look down at the top of the fuel tank, and the "fuel hat" has been completely eaten through by battery acid and destroyed.

The customer had removed the warning labels that say "do not open" (total of 7 of them, one sticker and one on each cell cap) prayed off all the caps, saw that the battery had no water in it (its not supposed to have water, its an AGM battery) and filled all of the cells with water. causing the battery to fail and spew acid out of the vent and down on to his fuel tank, where it ate through the hat and into the tank

We ended up replacing the entire fuel system, from fuel tank to injectors. Expensive mistake.
Thanks for the response.

I've always wondered about the older panameras and cayennes... I see a lot of them in the garage whenever I pass by independent places, but half-attributed that to just the sheer volume of them on the road.

And really interesting story... wonder what his thought process was.

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I don't look down upon anyone for buying older model used Porsches just because they're used, I like seeing those things being maintained and kept running on the roads, but like any demographic, they tend to attract buyers with a more limited budget, and they so want that Porsche ownership badge that they stretch just the buy the car and then having nothing left for maintenance and upkeep.

It's like, buy something in a little more within your means and then try to maintain it properly.

As far as new owners go struggling to maintain payments or can barely afford their insurance, yeah, I look down upon them too. I didn't even touch buying my first new Porsche til financially everything made the most sense for me (I claim part of the costs as a business expense for my pass through corporation).
Whenever I see a super clean pre-991/718 car, I always admire it.

I'm not talking about the resto-modded 964s or 993 turbos either... just plain, stock models that you can tell the owner cherishes and has owned for quite some time.
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One of the 25 year olds in the office just got a new Macan. As far as I know she isn't married and makes $50kish a year. Not a smart move.
I hate this... Sorry to burst anyones bubble that didn't already know, but the Macan is a Re-badged Audi Q5. 90% of the car is audi, The main difference is the styling, and on the S, Turbo, and GTS, the engine is a Porsche engine, but the Trans and suspension is all Audi.

The 4 cylinder macan (base model) is an audi engine with like 10 extra horsepower, and is designed to compete with Ford explores, and other "normal Cars" ... the problem being, you can take a ford to jiffy lube and have the oil changed for $30 ... you can't do that with a porsche, they will **** it up, i promise, i see it too often.

The Macan lures people from other brands for the Porsche badge and then they get blind sided by maintenance/ repair costs that they're not used to.


That being said.. A Macan turbo is a pretty fun car... I'm just all pissed off by how many god damned audi logos are on it
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Thanks for the response.

I've always wondered about the older panameras and cayennes... I see a lot of them in the garage whenever I pass by independent places, but half-attributed that to just the sheer volume of them on the road.

And really interesting story... wonder what his thought process was.



Whenever I see a super clean pre-991/718 car, I always admire it.

I'm not talking about the resto-modded 964s or 993 turbos either... just plain, stock models that you can tell the owner cherishes and has owned for quite some time.

Panameras had their fair share of issues (cam controllers, thermostat housings, cracked coils, etc..) and they were mostly taken care of by recalls or updated parts, but the main issue with them is they have HORRIBLE carbon build up on the intake valves, if you own one, plan on having a valve cleaning done every 50k, it makes them knock like a sonofabitch and run rough when they get bad
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