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Old 02-27-2021, 12:54 PM   #17201
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Last week some clowns stole my bike from my truck, locked with cable lock, backed in to my enclosed, attached carport. Part of my stupid plan was foiled because forgot sometimes I have on noise louder that a bike thief on the other side of the wall. I left it there planning on leaving first thing in the morning to wash it. After going through it in my mind later, I decided it was probably better for everyone I didn't intervene because I would have been furious. It would have been nice to have had them arrested. I was pissed when it was gone, and I had a plan to go around to where I was in the alley, not my back yard. Also, they are probably carrying at least 18" bolt cutters. I have a really long fuse, but when I lose it, I get bold and impulsive, and don't feel much.

I have a Farmer's replacement value policy, and I got $5300 for a bike I said I paid $4200 for. $700 of that is "recoverable" for 1 year, so I could add parts to make it equivalent. But it also feel like fraud. I was trying to show condition, so I showed I bought maintenance parts like tires, drivetrain and rotors. The adjuster insisted on adding the parts to the claim, even though I said I didn't think that was fair - just say it was in excellent condition for the depreciation.

Also, I haven't been riding because of a spine issue, and am doing PT for that.

So tomorrow I may order a Orbea Occam Carbon or maybe get a Trek Top Fuel 9.7 Carbon, in stock but it's over a hill on a twisty road, and it might snow.

I would like to ride the Top Fuel before ordering the Obea, but I am pretty sure the Occam is the way to go.

Has anyone ridden both? Also, the TF is a L frame, and I felt cramped on my L Pony Rustler. The reach and ETT are similar, and I think I really want an XL. I am looking at something like 660 ETT and near 500 reach in a trail bike. 66.0 headtube, with 63 on the TF, which might be nice for switchbacks.

Third option - Salsa Horsethief - I can buy one. I would have to add $500 to my first settlement check ($4200)

I also bought 2 6' ABUS 6mm sheilded chain, and finally got around getting and installing some WYZE cameras.

I also could buy a used Tallboy CC GX (xt, right?) a new DPX2, 27.5 and 28 wheelset, and a spare monarch rear shock that needs service, for like $3300, and be able to get parts. But the frame is 4 years old, He races, and I see his times on local trails are like 75% of mine (really fast people are 50% of mine.)

I can't believe I got money in a week, and there are bikes available that I actually want.

I could get a pretty nice e-bike for $2k if my back is messed up for reals.

I like my Top Fuel, it's my first XC bike and it doesn't feel XC-ish in the least. Climbs well, really well with careful use of the remote lockout, and descends as well as anything I've ridden. Sounds like you're in between a Large and an XL depending on your height, which are both significantly longer than a 2018 Pony Rustler.
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Old 02-27-2021, 03:52 PM   #17202
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I like my Top Fuel, it's my first XC bike and it doesn't feel XC-ish in the least. Climbs well, really well with careful use of the remote lockout, and descends as well as anything I've ridden. Sounds like you're in between a Large and an XL depending on your height, which are both significantly longer than a 2018 Pony Rustler.
Yeah. That's why it's a consideration at all, plus I know someone with one. And the steeper HT angle. I am comparing them also to the other bikes.

I am cramped seated. The ETT on the 2018 PR is 630, and the TF is also 630 in large. The XL is not available. But I wanted to pedal it too.
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:06 PM   #17203
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I just ordered the Orbea, with an upgrade from DPS to DPX2 Probably Eagle, maybe comparable Shimano. Both are the same price.

The owner of the show was pretty excited to put in a (probaby) $4500 order. Since I have a line item specifically for the DPX2 I lost, I can recover that too. Equality!!!
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:08 PM   #17204
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I just ordered the Orbea, with an upgrade from DPS to DPX2 Probably Eagle, maybe comparable Shimano. Both are the same price.

The owner of the show was pretty excited to put in a (probaby) $4500 order. Since I have a line item specifically for the DPX2 I lost, I can recover that too. Equality!!!


Congrats I think HpiRally on here has an Orbea not sure which one though.
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Old 02-28-2021, 11:08 AM   #17205
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Any of you guys try saddles other than the SM Pro from Ergon? I like the one I got on the trainer and want to grab another for the pivot, just trying to decide if I want to try an additional model.
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Old 02-28-2021, 11:15 AM   #17206
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https://www.specialized.com/us/en/po...ext=27118-1533

This is what I'm currently running on every bike I own

It's not for everyone but it's a major improvement over the standard Power IMHO
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Old 02-28-2021, 01:51 PM   #17207
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Congrats I think HpiRally on here has an Orbea not sure which one though.
Maybe an Oiz? Too lazy to look. Thanks. I think this is a great bike for me. It's like a Trance, but more turney, and now I don't need to buy a 29" wheelset.

I was going to go cruise the pawn shops for my bike, but I don't really want to find it.
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Old 02-28-2021, 04:34 PM   #17208
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If I get another saddle for MTB, it'll be a model with a shorter nose.

This came on my Emonda and it's comfy enough, they chopped an inch off the nose which would keep it out of the way a little more for out of the saddle moves.
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Old 02-28-2021, 05:22 PM   #17209
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Been having general body pain issues all winter (getting old sucks) and haven't had the motivation to get on the bike since November, but wasn't going to miss out on the nicest weekend (not raining) we've had in 2021.

I has a fat and slow
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Old 02-28-2021, 05:30 PM   #17210
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Been having general body pain issues all winter (getting old sucks) and haven't had the motivation to get on the bike since November, but wasn't going to miss out on the nicest weekend (not raining) we've had in 2021.

I has a fat and slow


I’m sorry to admit I’m laughing at the “general body pain” a little bit.

To be honest sometimes if I’m eating crappy or drinking I’ll get like that.
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Old 02-28-2021, 05:57 PM   #17211
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Been having general body pain issues all winter (getting old sucks) and haven't had the motivation to get on the bike since November, but wasn't going to miss out on the nicest weekend (not raining) we've had in 2021.

I has a fat and slow
Indoor trainers are a game changer, even if you don't ride a ton and never plan to. Once or twice a week in the winter is all it takes to prevent that first few rides of the year pain.
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I’m sorry to admit I’m laughing at the “general body pain” a little bit.

To be honest sometimes if I’m eating crappy or drinking I’ll get like that.
I said that more to save building a list:

I've broken both my clavicles (guess how! ) and have worsening issues with my shoulders, just like the physical therapist predicted

I've had problems with my knees since I was in high school (couldn't take running anymore and bought a bike)

My left hip is on a slow sad decline, I'll probably start seriously looking at replacement options by 45.

And in the last two years my ankles have gotten to the point where I can barely walk in the morning until I get a couple of hundred steps into my day.

Cold + low barometer cranks these issues up to 11 and it has been **** weather for most of the winter here.

I freely admit that I have no one to blame but...
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Indoor trainers are a game changer, even if you don't ride a ton and never plan to. Once or twice a week in the winter is all it takes to prevent that first few rides of the year pain.
... before I moved out of state in late 2019, I had a core group of riding buddies, one of which owned the local bike shop, and we met 2 sometimes 3 times a week for "group rides" on zwift.

Now that I haven't had that the last two winters, I barely use my Kickr Core. That is something I need to harden the **** up and deal with it

It also doesn't help that I've been in a work/sleep/work cycle for going on a year now because we've been laughably understaffed for what we've been dealing with in the age of Covid-19. I'm trying my best to get out of that situation, which will help put me back in a "dammit, let's ride" mood on the otherside.

Pity party over
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Old 02-28-2021, 08:03 PM   #17213
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Self-motivation is the best motivation. If you don't want to do it, don't and don't worry about it, it's just a hobby after all. It's not like there's a minimum requirement.


I just use mine for low intensity work. It's pretty much me chilling at a moderate pace on a flat course for 1.5-2.5 hours listening to a podcast looking at the Zwift animation...and hitting the "thumbs up" button on the Zwift Companion app. It's neither boring or physically stressful.
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Old 02-28-2021, 08:13 PM   #17214
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For nerdy peoples:

https://medium.com/@altini_marco/hrv...e-8c1d744beae8

I bought a Polar H7 strap (validated model by this developer), bought and fired up the HRV Logger app, and did myself a DFA alpha 1 test today. More details on twitter but the long and short of it is that I am aerobic per that apparently good metric until about 134 bpm (78% of my low max heart rate) and 190-200W (65-68% of most recent FTP-via-ramp test).

This point of DFA alpha 1 == 0.75 apparently corresponds to LT1 on a true lactate test, which is pretty cool for a non-invasive technique. Science!
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Old 02-28-2021, 08:55 PM   #17215
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So far, that's for Apple users only.

But generally your low intensity target was always right around there, hr wise.

Edit again: The general assumption was that your LT1 happened at about 70% of your heart rate reserve, or the difference between resting and max HR. There's going to be some variation of course, but hearts are hearts. According to sports psychologists, at least.

It's not really a workout target, it's just an inflection point on the lactate curve.

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So far, that's for Apple users only.

But generally your low intensity target was always right around there, hr wise.
Yeah, not groundbreaking changes for sure, but in sticking to strict zone 2 heart rate I'd be constrained to 74% max, I believe. So this gives me a little extra wiggle room and should be more accurate than the percentage of max-based heart and power metrics.
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Yeah, not groundbreaking changes for sure, but in sticking to strict zone 2 heart rate I'd be constrained to 74% max, I believe. So this gives me a little extra wiggle room and should be more accurate than the percentage of max-based heart and power metrics.
That's totally dependent on the length of the workout but HR is the constant, not power and I'm not sure what the timeframes are supposed to be. Someone should be able to do 95% of their FTP for 20 minutes, 120% for 6, maybe an hour of Sweet Spot (88-95%) but after that it gets really fuzzy.
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Shouldn't that be able to do 105% of FTP for 20 minutes so as to replicate it? Or are they giving some slack for a non-test day?
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Shouldn't that be able to do 105% of FTP for 20 minutes so as to replicate it? Or are they giving some slack for a non-test day?
Yeah, I was just about to edit that.

If we were hard men, we'd theoretically be able to do it for an hour but it's just too mentally tough.
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Got the 1up bike racks today. So far I’m impressed with the build quality. I will probably put one on the roof of the 4R for fun. That might compel me to actually take the bike someplace and ride.

Edit: 8min later I’ve got one on the roof.

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Old 03-01-2021, 05:39 PM   #17221
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So, I’m going to try and keep this from rambling too much, but I’m trying to figure out new bike thoughts.

I current have a diamondback release 4C that’s a few years old now and a little dinged up, but still riding fine. So this is mostly driven out of a want to try new things rather than need. About half my rides are semi XC, or at least not overly tech either by myself or with my dad. The other half are Apex, White Ranch, Dakota, etc. with buddies.

My plan for a while has been to get a Ripmo, potentially with the coil option once I get down to my target weight. (187-170) That way if I do get the coil option, I’d be at the lower end of their weight recommendation for the default spring instead of over it. Not why I decided to drop the weight, but one of the reasons I was holding off on a purchase.

It seems like a good mid-travel 29er that works as a do it all bike for the front range. Sounds fun, I’m riding more technical terrain than I was and it’s still supposed to pedal pretty well. It should be a bit more truck-ish with the coil, compared to the “playful” DB. A change that might fit my riding style a bit better too. At least while I’m still working on my skills.

Then, I saw the post on the new Salsa Timberjack and it brought back around an old thought of an aggressive hardtail. Would probably make my XC rides a bit different and change things up a bit. The price isn’t too bad, has a lot of mounts on the frame so I could go pack-less on those shorter rides. And I could potentially even go single speed. I like the idea, but not sure I’d actually like it in theory. It’s a gamble, but it looks super easy to convert to gears if I give up on the SS.

My hesitation is that it seems silly to all of a sudden do a 180 and get a hardtail when my current bike does those rides pretty well as is. Plus, at my skill level I think it might make more sense to learn one bike really well instead of having two different bikes.

And if I go singlespeed, the claimed weight is a bit over 29.5lbs. I’m not nearly the weight weenie I was a few years back when I got the DB, but that seems like a lot for a single speed. I thought half the appeal was a light, snappy bike that helped make up for the lack of gears. But maybe with different set of tires, it wouldn’t be too bad. I was also pondering upgrading to the carbon wheelset with the Ripmo since it seems like 29ers are here to stay, maybe I just do that early for the SS and put them on the Ripmo if that happens next year instead?

Is anybody on here a single speed person that can tell me if my weight worry is pointless or not? Or anybody else want to tell me I’m wasting money on a hardtail and I should just buy the enduro bike instead like I initially planned? Or buy both, but get the Ripmo AF instead of the carbon version?
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Around here for the fun trails I very much prefer full suspension. One can ride anything on nearly anything +/- tire durability, sure, but having done Mountain Lion on a borrowed hardtail... no thanks.
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I’d definitely be keeping my release for the more difficult trails. The hardtail would be for north table, green mountain, buff creek type rides.

It would be an addition instead of a replacement like the Ripmo would be.
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I love my TJ and have been running it SS since I bought it.

You can ride just about any trail on any bike if you know how to ride the trail and the bike you're on.

When on the trails that I consistently ride both my Epic and TJ SS, I have two completely different riding styles because I know what does/doesn't work with each bike and, especially with the SS, I know the places where I need carry my momentum and where I need to save some energy for an upcoming segment that's going to be a grunt.
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I love my TJ and have been running it SS since I bought it.

That’s good to know. With you having more of an XC race bike, do you ever find yourself wishing you had the lighter bike, or are they different enough that you don’t notice the weight difference?
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