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Old 01-19-2021, 09:14 AM   #1776
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Thanks. I will look into it. If I chose those Kenwoods, would I need an additional wire for the light feature?
This is the boat:



And this is the current speaker- which looks to be 6.5"
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Old 01-19-2021, 09:21 AM   #1777
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If you are only adding 2 speakers I don't think it really matters. If you want good quality then you'll want to run an amp which means you should replace all 4 so all your speakers have the same performance specks.

Wet sounds
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All seem to be the fan favorites. Polk and Exile will be the most cost effective and the JL Wetsounds will have the best sound.
The headunit likely does 4 x 50w which is pretty decent. Granted, an inline amp would definitely make it louder at the expense of an amp and running some additional cables. My nephew has some JL marine speakers, cant remember the model, but they sound real good.
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Old 01-19-2021, 09:22 AM   #1778
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I haven’t wired audio in a while but I would think the lights in the speakers require an external power source.
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Old 01-19-2021, 10:08 AM   #1779
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Because of a youtube rabbit hole I watched a bunch of videos on Camper boats. It seems no one really hit the bullseye on any of them. Seems like an opportunity if you include the best reasons to have a boat and a camper. Most had some of the worst ones.
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Old 01-19-2021, 08:21 PM   #1780
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22' pontoon boat. No tower. Radio is covered in the captains console. 2 original speakers are in the base of the chaise lounge chairs, on the same side.

Would like 2 additional speakers installed, on the adjacent side. (1) chaise lounge, and (1) towards the back of the boat in the L shaped chair.

6.5" speakers is what is currently there, I believe
Is your goal to have speakers that sound better than a portable bluetooth speaker while you are relaxing on the boat?

Or is your goal to have speakers you can still hear clearly at 25mph and while 30 yards from the boat?

If its the first one, you'll find pretty much any speaker gets it done. And in that environment, I don't find it worth spending a lot on something that degrades just as fast as the budget speakers. I have 4 of these on my deckboat and have been happy.

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My neighbor has the $1000 audio setup on his jetboat...multiple amps, 8 speakers, head unit with two control remote panels. His is louder, but at normal volumes at anchor, it doesn't sound any better than my $150 setup.

But then again, I'm not looking to try and impress the entire beach with how obnoxiously loud I can crank my stereo the way a lot of people seem to.
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Old 01-19-2021, 08:48 PM   #1781
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Default I want a boat, but know nothing about them.

The two speakers currently installed sound fine while anchored. While cruising, the sound does decrease. I was just thinking of upgrading those 2 and installing 2 more. The speakers seem like they’re original and the boat is a 2001 haha. Wasn’t looking for top of the line and we aren’t ones to blast our music for all to hear.

How long have you had those Pyles? The guy I asked about installing them stated he wasn’t fond of them and has been removing a lot of them lately. He also recommended an amp.
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:24 AM   #1782
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The two speakers currently installed sound fine while anchored. While cruising, the sound does decrease. I was just thinking of upgrading those 2 and installing 2 more. The speakers seem like they’re original and the boat is a 2001 haha. Wasn’t looking for top of the line and we aren’t ones to blast our music for all to hear.

How long have you had those Pyles? The guy I asked about installing them stated he wasn’t fond of them and has been removing a lot of them lately. He also recommended an amp.
4 years on my boat in good old southern sun and salt water. With all the usual banging around of anchors and skis and coolers, etc. The original JBL ones that came from the factory lasted about 5 years until the combo of water, UV, and corrosion had them falling apart. The Pyles seemed to actually use better materials and still look and sound new.

An amp would definitely let you crank them up while cruising.

I generally don't have mine on while cruising. My boat is pretty quiet with a 4-stroke and high transom. Up front there is almost no engine noise. But I find even then it's difficult enough to communicate with just the wind noise. Adding a loud enough stereo on top of that pretty much means nobody can talk during the ride.

Either that or everyone is shouting and you'll find yourself constantly having to turn down the volume and saying "WHAT?" I found it just wasn't worth having it on while underway.

Pontoons are also generally gloriously quiet. Lots of seats. People can sit comfortably and crack jokes, have conversations, etc.

The lone exception is if you have a long stretch of no wake zone where you are just putting along at a slow speed. You can turn up the music a bit then, but the wind noise is far lower, so the volume doesn't need to be cranked up.
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:35 AM   #1783
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Yeah, my pontoon is quiet. And the 90hp Merc usually only hits about 14 knots hahaha
So the volume wouldn't be crazy loud ever, and enough to just compliment/ drunken sing a-longs, etc.
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Old 02-14-2021, 08:35 PM   #1784
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Welcome to a "WhiteH2O" thinking out loud "brain fart" post with pretty much no point:

I've been toying with the idea of building a Tolman Great Alaskan Skiff for a few years, and later this year, I'll be in the position to actually start building. The idea for the boat is to cruise around the Puget Sound, do some fishing, and cruise the inside passage to Alaska.

Great Alaskan looks something like a Duckworth fishing boat, but is way lighter, so less gas, and something that I could build for waaaaay less than what a Duckworth would cost. It would end up looking something like this:



But now I'm wondering if I want a (yeah, I know, complete opposite as far as boats go) sailboat. Probably in the 35-45 foot range that needs a little work. I could still cruise around the Puget Sound, slower, but it would be more about sailing instead of any destination. Inside passage would still be in play, and it would take longer, but I would save a ton in gas. Also, I could find a sailboat that is bigger than the Great Alaskan would be for less money, leaving money to fix it up, and pay for moorage. I also haven't thrown out the idea of building a sailboat, but I'd want a sailboat that is bigger than my garage, and I'm not sure I like the idea of building outside. That is why I like the idea of buying one that I could fix up better than building.

Thoughts on the differences: The GA would be able to be kept on a trailer, saving money on moorage, while the sailboat would need to be moored. For the same money, I could get a bigger sailboat, making it more comfortable to spend longer times on the boat comfortably. Gas savings of a sailboat vs a powerboat. Speed of a powerboat vs a sailboat. Fishing abilities of powerboat vs the inability to fish from a sailboat (could fish from a dingy a little). Livability of a sailboat vs livability of a 28' powerboat for inside passage trips.

I've sailed around 10x in my cousin's 26' sailboat, so I kind of know the basics of sailing. I currently own an 18' power fishing boat.

Anyone want to argue one over the other? What other aspects am I missing here? Anyone own a powerboat and a sailboat and want to point out how one is way better than the other?

Or I could scrap the boat idea and build a floatplane that I could store on my lake. All three ideas would be in the same price range, and would be done largely for the fun of the project, not only for the completed boat/plane.
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So project build a boat could take forever, you could buy a workable boat or build an airplane?

Buy a used powerboat in the 35' - 45' range with updated electronics.
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My personal opinion is to go with the floatplane. I own a couple of boats and live on the water, but am also a pilot.

Fuel costs versus the GA are probably about the same, and you'll likely get far more utility out of a floatplane since you can take it more places. If you decide you want to take it out for a spin for an hour, and you have a lake, you can launch from there. Trailering a boat or getting a sailboat ready to leave it's mooring both require a lot of prep time. All three will require good weather.

If you decide you'd rather go the boat route, look into joining a local boat club and try out both the powerboat(s) as well as the sailboats. You'll get a better handle on what you like about each and help figure out which one you are likely to use the most.

Keep in mind taking a sailboat out for a couple of hours is usually not a thing. Either you are under power, which means you won't go very far very fast, or you are under sail, which means that either the outbound or return leg is going to take far longer.

I also recommend you read the thread on the Flyin' Hawaiin for amusement.
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So project build a boat could take forever, you could buy a workable boat or build an airplane?

Buy a used powerboat in the 35' - 45' range with updated electronics.
I think if I go powerboat, it would be either just keep the 18' one I have, or build one. Most other power boats go through too much fuel, and/or would be more expensive (especially in the 35-45' range). If I buy a workable boat, I think it would be a sailboat.

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My personal opinion is to go with the floatplane. I own a couple of boats and live on the water, but am also a pilot.

Fuel costs versus the GA are probably about the same, and you'll likely get far more utility out of a floatplane since you can take it more places. If you decide you want to take it out for a spin for an hour, and you have a lake, you can launch from there. Trailering a boat or getting a sailboat ready to leave it's mooring both require a lot of prep time. All three will require good weather.

If you decide you'd rather go the boat route, look into joining a local boat club and try out both the powerboat(s) as well as the sailboats. You'll get a better handle on what you like about each and help figure out which one you are likely to use the most.

Keep in mind taking a sailboat out for a couple of hours is usually not a thing. Either you are under power, which means you won't go very far very fast, or you are under sail, which means that either the outbound or return leg is going to take far longer.

I also recommend you read the thread on the Flyin' Hawaiin for amusement.
Some really good points there. Especially how long it takes to get a sailboat going, or trailer a powerboat down to the water and get it launched. A floatplane is ready to go in just a few minutes. My wife is leaning floatplane as well. She isn't extremely comfortable on boats, but I think that could change with time. Also though, the lake isn't very big, and I'm not sure how the neighbors would feel about a floatplane taking off in front of their houses. I could build a plane and still join the boat club, too.
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I think if I go powerboat, it would be either just keep the 18' one I have, or build one. Most other power boats go through too much fuel, and/or would be more expensive (especially in the 35-45' range). If I buy a workable boat, I think it would be a sailboat.



Some really good points there. Especially how long it takes to get a sailboat going, or trailer a powerboat down to the water and get it launched. A floatplane is ready to go in just a few minutes. My wife is leaning floatplane as well. She isn't extremely comfortable on boats, but I think that could change with time. Also though, the lake isn't very big, and I'm not sure how the neighbors would feel about a floatplane taking off in front of their houses. I could build a plane and still join the boat club, too.
Unless you are getting one of those super-freaky overpowered bush planes that can take off in like 200 feet, you are going to need something with at least 2000ft for takeoff, and possibly as much as 3500ft to clear a 50-ft obstacle at the end.

Also worth noting that any landing site surrounded by trees leaves very little margin for error. If you drift off centerline or catch a gust at treetop level on landing, you are going to get to hear that really unpleasant sound of tree branches smacking your wingtips. A real airfield will be cleared of trees and most obstacles around the strip. If you eff up on short final at a real airfield, you might miss the runway, but you still land and live to answer some uncomfortable questions and fill out a bunch of paperwork.

Note that a 35'-45' ft power boat also requires a *dedicated* tow vehicle. Its not something you just drop on the back of the wife's AWD Highlander and jaunt off to the lake with.

Sailboat...I've been diving in the local river on a breezy day for about 4 hours. I've watched the sailboat that was passing us when we started the dive...and after 4 hours it was about 1/2 mile further away as it was fighting both the strong tide and the wind as it tach'd. Sailboats are cool and all, but not for somebody on a schedule.
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Old 02-15-2021, 10:32 PM   #1789
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If I do the floatplane, it will be a Highlander from Steve Henry at Wild West in Idaho. I've already talked to him in a little bit of detail. Probably Yamaha powered. So, that is in the overpowered bushplane category most likely, depending on your perspective. The lake is over 2000' long. Should be plenty. I have a guy with a kitfox on floats that said he will come in and check it out for me to let me know what he thinks about it. I could also put it on wheels, and there are a few airports nearby, but then I have to pay to keep a plane there. I'd love to have one of these on wheels though. This plane will handle 200' strips no problem.

I have quite a bit of mountain time. Aside from moving people around in a big plane, it is what I really enjoy doing in planes. If I'm landing on pavement, I had better be paid for it, because I love off airport stuff the most.

I won't do a big powerboat. If I do a power boat it will be that Great Alaskan I posted a picture of above. I'd build it at 28' with an offshore bracket to make it about a 30'8" boat. I have the Lexus GX470 that *will* tow it (especially since I've re-geared it), but I wouldn't want to go long distances because I'll be right at the towing limit with it. I would be able to take it to the local launch, but anything further, I'd upgrade to a truck that wouldn't bat an eye at that much weight. It is a light boat for a 30 footer.

That cousin of mine that took me out on his sailboat- I think I'm going to get him to take me out some more. That way I can really see what I think of it with the idea of getting one for myself in the future. Take my wife along also, to see how she likes it. I think she is prone to sea sickness, so I'm a little worried about a sailboat. Honestly, I don't think she'll like sailing, but I still like the idea. If I'm being truthful to myself, I doubt this idea will go very far for this reason. I'm hopeful, but doubtful.

The wife is leaning float plane, and I'm between float plane and power boat. I could do both if I space them out by a few years. I think the plane is going to win. I just worry about pissing off the neighbors with an airplane taking off in front of their houses. I'll have to be taking them on rides to keep them happy, but I'm okay with that too.

Here is a Highlander on floats. They are badass.


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Powerboat.
Sailboat.
Floatplane.

The venn diagram of those three uses looks like this:

O O O

What exactly will you intend to do? Fish? Travel? Cruise?
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Powerboat.
Sailboat.
Floatplane.

The venn diagram of those three uses looks like this:

O O O

What exactly will you intend to do? Fish? Travel? Cruise?
Haha, I was wondering if someone was going to point that out.

I want to build something or renovate something first. Powerboat or plane should take around 2 years or a tad more. Sailboat completely depends on what I buy. The venn diagram for the first 2-3 years looks a lot better with that in mind.

After that, I think I'd be fairly happy fishing, flying, sailing, traveling, and/or cruising. Ideally all three, but since none of those options will do all three, I guess I have to choose which one to do first. Basically, I want to have fun outdoors. In the long term, I'll probably want the plane, and one of the two boats. I'd like to do the inside passage, and either the powerboat or sailboat could do that. Honestly, the plane could do that as well, but all three would be pretty different experiences, and all of them appeal to me for different reasons.

I think the powerboat would be the most fun to build, but I think the floatplane would be the most fun to have. The sailboat is slowly falling off the bottom of the list for many reasons.

I guess it is like asking if I should buy a basketball, kayak, or climbing gear. I want to do all three, even though they are vastly different. Just can't decide which to do first.
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Yeah, but with wife riding along in the float plane, he gets the perfect alignment of:

"If it flies, floats, or f**ks...."

Wait...nevermind.
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I think the days of boat ownership may be coming to an end for me.
Long story short- my friends father isn't renting out his dock this year, as he wants to upgrade the dock/ backyard work. That was only $600/ season for me. I was spoiled.

Now, I go to ask marinas and they're either booked solid (people retained their slips,) or want $2600+. Shoot me now. I have one long shot at a lower grade dock area for $900 so we shall see if/ when I get a call back.

I just can't fathom spending that much each year.
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I think the days of boat ownership may be coming to an end for me.
Long story short- my friends father isn't renting out his dock this year, as he wants to upgrade the dock/ backyard work. That was only $600/ season for me. I was spoiled.

Now, I go to ask marinas and they're either booked solid (people retained their slips,) or want $2600+. Shoot me now. I have one long shot at a lower grade dock area for $900 so we shall see if/ when I get a call back.

I just can't fathom spending that much each year.
Now you are making me feel less bad about the $2k in lumber needed to do some repairs on my dock.
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Powerboat.
Sailboat.
Floatplane.

The venn diagram of those three uses looks like this:

O O O

What exactly will you intend to do? Fish? Travel? Cruise?
I disagree. There is one commonality...$$$!!!
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Thought I'd look into renting a slip to avoid the whole towing/ boat ramp fun.
Hit the website of the 5 closest marinas, not one lists cost. "Fill out this web form and we'll call you".
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We’ve had some issues with our dry stack rental recently so I started looking around. I’m on 3 waitlists so far. I think every person in Charleston bought a boat last year.
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Now you are making me feel less bad about the $2k in lumber needed to do some repairs on my dock.
funny i knew this was your post before i looked....damn
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Now you are making me feel less bad about the $2k in lumber needed to do some repairs on my dock.
$2K in lumber? You only have to replace a board or two?

Lumber is HIGH right now.
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$2K in lumber? You only have to replace a board or two?



Lumber is HIGH right now.
I think I posted that in the gripe thread.

Last summer I counted up how much 2x6 decking I was going to need, but was going to wait until winter when it would be cooler.

Walked thru HD a few weeks back, saw a single 2x6x12 was $18.50 and noped right the hell out.

I'll band aid it for another season and hope it holds together.
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