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Old 12-03-2019, 08:22 AM   #1
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Default Tein EnduraPro fixed perch strut - Opinions?

It looks like Tein makes fixes perch struts now, which intrigued me as I have been looking for something comparable to a D-spec style strut solution.

http://https://www.tein.com/products/endurapro.html

They cite a few improvements over OE shocks/struts that sound pretty good to me: larger diameter piston/rod, more fluid capacity, green color, reinforced lower mounts, etc. Only thing is I can’t find anyone who has used them.

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Would also be interested to hear any opinions on these, I am curious but haven't been able to find any real world reviews.
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Old 12-03-2019, 02:09 PM   #3
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I've contacted Tein USA to find out more. So far they've only been willing to divulge that they are good for about a 5k spring and no more.

Edit: for some reason their sales staff wont detail out the design at length, but I was able to find out they are based on the same tech as the Flex Z / Street Advance Z line. The interesting thing is the Z line don't have the hydraulic bump stop.

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Old 12-03-2019, 07:22 PM   #4
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I posted about these in the brakes/suspension forum and never found anyone that has actually used them. Following this since I'm still interested.
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:55 PM   #5
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I’ve contacted Tein USA to find out more. So far they’ve only been willing to divulge that they are good for about a 5k spring and no more.

Edit: for some reason their sales staff wont detail out the design at length, but I was able to find out they are based on the same tech as the Flex Z / Street Advance Z line. The interesting thing is the Z line don't have the hydraulic bump stop.
Hey guys I just got a full set of the Tein EnduraPro Plus for my 05 wrx wagon. I will be using these to replace my blown out (2 out of 4) Koni inserts. I will be reusing my RCE wagon (black) springs, group n rear top hats and whiteline front castor/camber top hats. I use a camber bolt in the rear top just so it's there if needed.

Coming back to you're talk with them saying good up to 5k spring.. I think the RCE wagon will be okay even tho they are on the stiffest side at front 275 lb/in and rear 257 lb/in. Correct me if I'm wrong ?

Also will update when it's together and I get some time driving.

I ordered them from Flatironstuning.com and I highly recommend them, check them out for future reference. Also amazing fast shipping, great customer support and a few more bonuses. Sorry not trying to advertise, just really happy with them and happy to support a smaller business/racing team
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Old 06-02-2021, 05:55 PM   #6
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Hey guys I just got a full set of the Tein EnduraPro Plus for my 05 wrx wagon. I will be using these to replace my blown out (2 out of 4) Koni inserts. I will be reusing my RCE wagon (black) springs, group n rear top hats and whiteline front castor/camber top hats. I use a camber bolt in the rear top just so it's there if needed.

Coming back to you're talk with them saying good up to 5k spring.. I think the RCE wagon will be okay even tho they are on the stiffest side at front 275 lb/in and rear 257 lb/in. Correct me if I'm wrong ?

Also will update when it's together and I get some time driving.

I ordered them from Flatironstuning.com and I highly recommend them, check them out for future reference. Also amazing fast shipping, great customer support and a few more bonuses. Sorry not trying to advertise, just really happy with them and happy to support a smaller business/racing team
Let us know your thoughts. I'm considering these as a replacement for my clunky 2005 STi struts.
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Old 06-02-2021, 08:29 PM   #7
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Let us know your thoughts. I'm considering these as a replacement for my clunky 2005 STi struts.
Well just visually they are quality built/construction. I've watched the short video from Tein and I would say they are the top for current market/technology (like how d-specs were but not available anymore).

Clearly we prefer a performance review but I still need to make the time.

Glad to see there's still interest as I haven't found any reviews either
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Old 06-03-2021, 11:30 AM   #8
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Well just visually they are quality built/construction. I've watched the short video from Tein and I would say they are the top for current market/technology (like how d-specs were but not available anymore).

Clearly we prefer a performance review but I still need to make the time.

Glad to see there's still interest as I haven't found any reviews either
The only options I've found as replacements (minus coilovers) for the 2005 STi are these Tein, Feal Fixed Perch ($1,300 but are non-inverted), and Pedders. The Tein and Feal are the two I'm leaning towards, but with the Tein still being inverted, it seems they will still develop clunking at some point if not properly greased. I also don't know how their service is if they need to be rebuilt. Feal offers rebuild services for theirs.
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Old 06-03-2021, 09:21 PM   #9
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Tein EnduraPros are twintube non-inverted. Shouldn't clunk.
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Old 06-04-2021, 10:37 AM   #10
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Tein EnduraPros are twintube non-inverted. Shouldn't clunk.
For some reason I was under the assumption they were still inverted. I guess they don't explicitly say one way or the other and that's why I just assumed they were.
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Old 06-14-2021, 11:37 PM   #11
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The only options I've found as replacements (minus coilovers) for the 2005 STi are these Tein, Feal Fixed Perch ($1,300 but are non-inverted), and Pedders. The Tein and Feal are the two I'm leaning towards, but with the Tein still being inverted, it seems they will still develop clunking at some point if not properly greased. I also don't know how their service is if they need to be rebuilt. Feal offers rebuild services for theirs.
I'm not sure how Feal sells there fixed perch struts but Tein sells them individually if only one would need to be replaced.

Still no review as they aren't installed, but I'm really anticipating the hydraulic bump stop on these north eastern roads as a great thing. As well as the adjustable dampers on the pro plus.

I am also doing other suspension/driveline upgrades along with Tein struts so when it's all done I should probably include that as background knowledge.
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Old 06-15-2021, 10:37 AM   #12
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I'm not sure how Feal sells there fixed perch struts but Tein sells them individually if only one would need to be replaced.

Still no review as they aren't installed, but I'm really anticipating the hydraulic bump stop on these north eastern roads as a great thing. As well as the adjustable dampers on the pro plus.

I am also doing other suspension/driveline upgrades along with Tein struts so when it's all done I should probably include that as background knowledge.
Feal just sells them as a kit, but you can send them back to them for service. Looking forward to seeing how they turn out!
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.......I'm really anticipating the hydraulic bump stop on these north eastern roads as a great thing.
Why? Do you believe they are an improvement over microcellular urethane?
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Old 07-10-2021, 09:57 PM   #14
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Why? Do you believe they are an improvement over microcellular urethane?
Yes it seems like a good thing, it’s built in, and may improve comfort/control on big hits.
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Old 07-30-2021, 06:29 PM   #15
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I'm interested in using these shocks for a car running SCCA Solo. It appears that they are permitted for D Street since you can retain the stock ride height and top mount. Does anyone have any experience with these in autocross?
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Feal just sells them as a kit, but you can send them back to them for service. Looking forward to seeing how they turn out!
We do also sell individual corners upon request
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Old 10-22-2021, 01:47 AM   #17
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To keep everyone updated, I've started undergoing the transformation a few days ago. To start off there's a lot of work going on but it's finally in process. I apologize if I left anyone hanging, but life keeps moving first.

Knowing my good 'ole rear wagon strut towers needed attention I have my interior out and ALL the rear suspension removed. Reason for everything is because I got a complete hub/knuckle kit with sedan rear lateral links and trailing arms from jspec. Nice bonus for wheel bearings. Turn in concepts (TiC) klunk killer kit going in and rear subframe lockdown bolts already in.

Once the rear is welded, rust treated, and bolted together I'll go to the front.

I am installing STi aluminum control arms, whiteline ALK kit with the tie tod ends and ball joints.
BUT that's not it, once I remove everything in the sides I'm gonna split the power plants and put in a comp stage 2 clutch.

So bare with me, this is just a notice I am getting started on giving a review on the tein endurapro struts.. the only cushion I'll get from the road to my butt.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:54 AM   #18
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It's been ages and I forget, but don't you need sedan front axles if you're doing the STI aluminum control arms?

Anyway, sounds like you're doing a nice rebuild and it should be pretty great. I want a GD chassis wagon.

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It's been ages and I forget, but don't you need sedan front axles if you're doing the STI aluminum control arms?

Anyway, sounds like you're doing a nice rebuild and it should be pretty great. I want a GD chassis wagon.

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Not necessarily, but good practice from what I gathered
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Old 10-23-2021, 03:09 AM   #20
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Wagon to sedan (02-07) suspension info:

Sedan has a 10mm track width on each side vs wagon. To obtain sedan track width the front and rear(lateral links) control arms have to be swapped. By doing so front will need to change sway bars and links. Front axles as a good practice, but not necessary.

Rear axles are needed(pretty sure)

OEM Wagon struts have more camber, but after market camber bolts or ground out holes should have the same result.

For my beautiful silver bullet wagon I am literally doing full sedan track width. So everything but my steering rack will be replaced.

I want to assume I'll have a new 2020+ like sporty feel with the endura pro plus struts.

Please feel free to ask questions or give feed back..
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subscribed. My 2nd set of D-specs finally are dying... juggling KYB AGXs vs Tein leaning Tein... even given the lowering spring Tein mystic.

My '04 Wagon has the entire Whiteline catalog + some Super Pro bushings and Cusco (laterals and trailing arms) not to mention every TiC/kartboy bushing possible. STi/sedan front done, working on sedan rears, all the parts are here. Just need to have the car off the highway for 1/4 panel surgery.

I will take my RCE Black-Wagon Spec lowering springs to the grave. Best spring for a WRX or Fozzy EVER.


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Old 12-03-2021, 11:47 PM   #22
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Alright ladies and germs I've got a review for you, otherwise best known as subaru enthusiasts, as I am aswell. So I'm just gonna rant on about random things just to leave you all saying "wow what a waste of a thread"



Anyways being a little sauced up on whiskey, as my choice of drink, I'm celebrating from a good drive home after the pro laser spec alignment; as all should no matter what. Let's put this last.

As any dingbat would do is put on old whiteline tophats onto their brand new beautiful (inside and out) Tein EnduraPro Plus fixed perched struts. Okay I'm the dingbat and well.. it was definitely worth it because as soon as I backed out of the garage from doing everything in my previous reply I had to drive right back in. Duh my negative camber (just eyeballed) rubbed my rear strut! Damn these green bouncing machines are thick.

I didn't even mention what happened to the front! GUH. SO after getting my front struts mounted to the body I gave it a little one two. Just twist and turn with no knuckle attached it was rough, so damn me bad top hat bearing. And well the other side had slop. So damn me bad lateral whatever bearing play. Still put that girl with a stick trans together and took her out

Well gosh bang on a salad night I was not expecting this. I even took "her" out for a drive to work (okay yeah I eyed in toe and camber not my best work but I couldn't keep my tape measure stiff 69in to make it simple here) and dang goodness my caster didn't let my wheel straighten out on its own through a turn! That glorious beetch! She even rubbed a little of my rear quarter from the sedan track width... heheheh

So that comes to conclusion got my new top hats in and gave her a good old cursing. They all like it, we all know.


What are we talking about ?
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Old 12-04-2021, 01:46 AM   #23
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Default 2nd review: first impressions are important? Looking at you ;)

First of all, glad you're still here.

So the best way to describe a ride (with my setup at least) on the Tein endrurapro plus is like a comfort coilover in a way? I have mine set at +6 from softest setting right now, and it's a range of 16 clicks soft to hard (hahah)

It's only been 75ish miles driven. I don't know but this is a hard review since all my other aftermarket suspension stuff involved.

Top quality appearance/build and assumably quality control, as all tein products would be, right? I think? Would anybody disagree? Perfect? Well that's a huge plus.

Anyway I had a problem with my one adjuster right away and I believe it was my sockets fault after I tightened it to the top hat. It didn't come to a stop for softest or hardest setting. So I gave a quick email to Tein support and they gave me basic info on their adjusters. http://teinusa-blog.com/quick-click-fixes/ Problem solved. A+ with extra credit on customer service/response right before Thanksgiving.

Okay we're still doing this apparently since you haven't put these in your cart yet. I'm no sales person but I'd buy these, oh wait..

How long have these bump suckers and dip stoppers been on the market? Seriously? Are we that old or these cars not as popular? Like jeeze you just have to put a motor or three and a trans in. Definitely wanna keep that rust to a minimum so that nice green strut don't ride in the back seat.

We've searched for reviews and here I am just really making an ass out of myself hopefully entertaining a few.

So as of now, endurapro struts are like a comfort coilover in a presumably straight driving condition (since my aftermarket stuff factors in a lot with cornering, but it's also super nice)

I'm gonna let this ride out for a bit then shift to 3rd for bumps and dips. Preview on the little drive time, you guessed it like a comfort coilover... BUT .. this is where the bump stop tech comes in.. **Dun dun dunnn**
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Thanks for the review! Might pick some of these up.
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Old 12-17-2021, 09:30 PM   #25
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I've got some of these in the Plus version on the way for my 05 sedan. I haven't been happy with how my KYB GR2 struts have been riding. Will be pairing with some King standard height springs. Hopefully installed within the next month.
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