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Old 01-24-2022, 03:53 PM   #51
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I actually installed the Fumoto valve on my '02 wrx without thinking about the fact that it isnt magnetic. I have 122,914km on this and ive had it for about 3 years now. It has been used for tracks and circuit racing before me, so it has seen some abuse. It does concern me that
the fumoto valve isnt capable of collecting the metal shavings that maybe in my engine at maximum potential like the OEM drain plug. So im with you on there. I am thinking about uninstalling it and keeping the OEM installed until i get something like a KillerB engine oil reservoir which has 2 drain plug holes, or a valve that can magnetically collect shards while keeping it easy to change oil. I've looked everywhere for a valve like that but im empty handed on any info, so any info on that would be appreciated cause i dont wanna go to a master metal smith to create a custom valve for me. Cause that will be very very expensive, id assume.
Chris from Killer b determined in his back-to-back oil analysis testing that the magnetic plug did not yield better results than a standard fumoto valve at reducing contamination and metal particles in the oil. He couldn't explain why. But the Blackstone tests didn't lie.

My tuner/builder was highly skeptical of these results but I trust Chris to do the experiments correctly without adding variables - so it's not a cut and dry subject, there is room for research and debate.
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Old 01-25-2022, 04:28 PM   #52
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May i see a reference? Is there a video or a forum of his analysis? A commentary? A link?
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Old 01-25-2022, 06:11 PM   #53
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May i see a reference? Is there a video or a forum of his analysis? A commentary? A link?
He told me this in private messages on this forum.

Message Killer B Motorsports on here if you want the rundown.

All I can offer regarding evidence is the fact that Killer B sells fumoto valves on their site, but doesn't sell magnetic plugs.

This is no accident - they actively decided against selling plugs after their testing.
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Old 01-25-2022, 06:59 PM   #54
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Chris from Killer b determined in his back-to-back oil analysis testing that the magnetic plug did not yield better results than a standard fumoto valve at reducing contamination and metal particles in the oil. He couldn't explain why. But the Blackstone tests didn't lie.
^ this is true. Was nearly 10 years ago. The test results were surprising. So much so, we repeated the test over and got a similar result. Blackstone also did a similar test years before we did and on other platforms. Thier results were similar.

Why? I can only speculate. I'll call my theory the 'paperclips on a magnet' theory, lol.

The short of it is, we'd love to stand behind and make money selling products that offer a benefit to our customers. The claims of magnet plugs were not what our testing revealed.
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Old 02-09-2022, 04:50 AM   #55
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I have these on all my Subs cars. Have modified engines with headers, KillerB oil pan, and makes doing everything easier. Need to always have good Skid-Pan for extra protection, and also some extra hose to drain the oil so that no drips on Header wrap.
Only Fumoto Valves are recommended.
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Old 03-28-2022, 12:16 AM   #56
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I’ve heard good things about them but I rather spend the money on a magnetic drain plug for extra security. Currently running the Dimple Magnetic drain plug and that magnet is STRONG as hell.
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Old 03-28-2022, 08:35 AM   #57
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I’ve heard good things about them but I rather spend the money on a magnetic drain plug for extra security. Currently running the Dimple Magnetic drain plug and that magnet is STRONG as hell.
If you really cared about oil, which you do not, you'd have an oil bypass setup installed on your car. Those are ~$300 and utilize TWO oil filters. You do not have one. You do not care. Those will legitimately clean you oil 1000% better than what you are doing now.

There is no extra security in a magnetic drain plug even if it is stronger than Zeus himself as anything found on the plug would be captured in the oil filter with or without the presence of an magnet.

Tribology is a neat topic. But you are beyond your knowledge base. I run Walmart SuperTech synthetic oil and whatever filter is on sale and my oil changes, every 5000 miles, run ~$22. My WRX is at 320,000 miles. Oil stuff does not matter as much as people think it does. Change it. Go about your life.

Now if you don't believe me, that's terrific. Prove me wrong. Order 2 test kits from https://www.blackstone-labs.com/prod...ree-test-kits/ and do a test using the same oil, same filter, same mileage with and without a magnetic drain plug. When you post the results, PM me here and I'll paypal you $30 to show I put my money where my fat mouth is.
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Old 03-28-2022, 09:14 AM   #58
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If you really cared about oil, which you do not, you'd have an oil bypass setup installed on your car. Those are ~$300 and utilize TWO oil filters. You do not have one. You do not care. Those will legitimately clean you oil 1000% better than what you are doing now.

There is no extra security in a magnetic drain plug even if it is stronger than Zeus himself as anything found on the plug would be captured in the oil filter with or without the presence of an magnet.

Tribology is a neat topic. But you are beyond your knowledge base. I run Walmart SuperTech synthetic oil and whatever filter is on sale and my oil changes, every 5000 miles, run ~$22. My WRX is at 320,000 miles. Oil stuff does not matter as much as people think it does. Change it. Go about your life.

Now if you don't believe me, that's terrific. Prove me wrong. Order 2 test kits from https://www.blackstone-labs.com/prod...ree-test-kits/ and do a test using the same oil, same filter, same mileage with and without a magnetic drain plug. When you post the results, PM me here and I'll paypal you $30 to show I put my money where my fat mouth is.

How many engines in that 320,000mi tho ron
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