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01-07-2003, 12:28 PM | #1 |
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Newsflash: WRX + $7k will run circles around Evo8 and STi
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01-07-2003, 12:32 PM | #2 |
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And with no warrenty...
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01-07-2003, 12:33 PM | #3 |
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No it won't, it'll run in a straight line past an Evo8 and STi.
Yippee! Drag racing. |
01-07-2003, 12:33 PM | #4 |
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well, here is the way I see it.
As someone has mentyioned many times before, for $5800 you can get the Vishu system with 350hp. the thing is, the STI is a lot more than horsepower. HP gives you straight line, thats all. Witht he STI you get better brakes, stiffer and better acting suspension, better differentials, bigger and stickers tires. As any track or autocross racer will tell you, HP does not win races, handling and power do. So it depends on what you mean? straight line, yeah, you could drop $7000 into a wrx and get a better performace, but on a track, backroads, handling, spidpad, brakiong, you woudl have to spend a ton more. coilovers or sti suspension, $1500+ Brembo brakes $3500 f/r DCCD $1600 + install front LSD, $1000 Wheels and tires $2000 HP stage two, $5800 see where I am going with this? Yes, a WRX with mods will be great, I have one right now, but it will not be the complete package the STI offers p-rex |
01-07-2003, 12:34 PM | #5 |
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So you can get front LSD, 6spd tranny, inverted struts, independent suspsension, DCCD, and 73hp into the WRX for $7k? I'm impressed!
Of course if you mean, "WRX + $7k can go in a straight line faster than STi" then I think you're correct |
01-07-2003, 12:35 PM | #6 | |
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01-07-2003, 12:36 PM | #7 |
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uhhh, I'd hope so.....
but having 300hp with a 6speed and everything else it comes with (like hids ect) with a warrantee would be pretty nice. BTW, you can say the same about 2.5 RS with $5K mods to the WRX. I'm gonna be soooo jellous when the STI comes out....damn |
01-07-2003, 12:36 PM | #8 |
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wow, I typed too much! otherwise I would have been the first rpelying
p-rex |
01-07-2003, 12:45 PM | #9 |
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And the same thing was said 2 years ago of the 2.5 RS with the introduction of the WRX...
(And basically it's the root of much of the stigma of snootyness of many 2.5RS owners who pine for the 'good ol days') If you feel you want to do it, then do it. There is no discussion needed. It's your car, do what you want. If you make it faster fine. But just 'talking about it' does nothing to making it faster. --kC (Yes, I'm keeping the wagon) |
01-07-2003, 01:47 PM | #10 |
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If all you want is the fastest car you can get for 30k just buy a high mileage eclipse GSX for $2000 and put $28,000 in mods in the car. Trust me you will kill the STi, the EVO and a modded WRX. There is more to a car than just the numbers. Personally I can't afford a STi, so I am going to buy a totaled one and put the drivetrain in my RS.
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01-07-2003, 02:22 PM | #11 |
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and then there's my car...
Thanks to a great deal from a new found friend (thanks Paul), my WRX was purchased last year for under $22k...Plus I love my bug-eyed headlights! No 04' STI for me.
2002 USDM WRB WRX Sedan Body: BodyKits NW Carbon Fiber Hood Interior: STi Titanium Shift Knob Subaru Deep Rubber Floor Mats Engine Performance: Variation on Cobb/APS Stage II (all installed by Cobb) Unichip, custom tuned by Cobb in current configuration APS SR-30 Turbo Turbo Back APS Exhaust PDE Up-pipe APS large TMIC Unichip controlled waterspray system APS BOV APS Cold Air Intake Suspension: STP Struts/Springs STi Strut Top Mounts, Front and Rear Whiteline Rear Camber Bolts Whiteline Rear Adjustable Sway Bars 20-24 Whiteline Front 22mm Sway Bar Whiteline Rear Sway Bar End Links Whiteline Rear Heavy Duty Swaybar Mounts Wheels & Tires: Revolution RZX 17x7.5” Race Wheels Sumitomo HTRzII 225/45-17s Drive Train: Fidanza Lightened Flywheel STi Transmission Mount STi Motor Mounts Brakes: Goodridge SS Brake Lines Fastline ABS Switch Protection: Primitive Full Body Armor Fastline Mud-flaps (including mount upgrade) Last edited by skerman; 01-07-2003 at 02:31 PM. |
01-07-2003, 02:35 PM | #12 |
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In addition to what the others have said, there is one thing that an STi will have that no modded WRX can come close to for less than $10k.
Drivability. 300 HP on a AVCS 2.5 liter motor with a reasonably geared 2nd gear. Not only WAY more torque down low than any stock WRX engine with bolt ons could dream of, but a higher ratio 2nd gear. Yes, the turbo will be larger than a stock WRX turbo, but not so much larger as to swamp the effect of AVCS and extra 25% displacement. Even the 2.0 + AVCS has a much wider torque band. the 2.5 + AVCS will have fantastic drivability that the WRX lacks to some extent. |
01-07-2003, 02:44 PM | #13 | |
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Re: and then there's my car...
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01-07-2003, 02:46 PM | #14 |
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Tell your crack dealer I said "Hi." The other posters have summed up the symmetry of the STi package: Power, brakes and suspension, plus other goodies like HIDs, etc.
And don't forget that the STi owner hasn't begun to mod yet. When he does, he'll light the modded WRX up like a Christmas tree. When tests of modded WRXes vs. STis are done, the STi always wins. Kevin |
01-07-2003, 02:49 PM | #15 | |
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Re: Newsflash: WRX + $7k will run circles around Evo8 and STi
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01-07-2003, 03:03 PM | #16 |
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you guys forgot to mention the engine parts..
ie. titanium valve springs....etc.. |
01-07-2003, 03:10 PM | #17 |
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The WRX owners that talk crap about the pre wrx 2.5RS owners are now the one talking crap about the STI.
Hilarious, but I can take 7k and blah blah blah ....DENIAL!!!!!! I love it! |
01-07-2003, 04:06 PM | #18 |
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old discussion.......already beaten to death
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=287260 nothing more to discuss |
01-07-2003, 04:27 PM | #19 |
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this thread sucks, delete it
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01-07-2003, 05:48 PM | #20 | |
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01-07-2003, 09:11 PM | #21 |
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"There is no replacement for displacement"
2.5 vs me and my 2.0 will lose every time. I personally hate the new STi, only because i dont and cant have one! |
01-07-2003, 10:07 PM | #22 |
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Oh how nice it would be to own a STi... Maybe in a couple years when it's time for me to get a new car. For right now I'm having fun with the WRX I have now . And in a couple years I'll be making more money and it'll be in my price range.
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01-07-2003, 11:16 PM | #23 |
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i can hold more stuff in my wagon than the sti can, so ha.
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01-07-2003, 11:18 PM | #24 | |
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01-08-2003, 01:29 AM | #25 |
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driveability warranty 'nuff said |
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