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Old 09-23-2010, 09:25 PM   #426
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Well luckily for every driver on earth I'm not that stupid. That's why I brought it up. Is there a halogen bulb that gives the same color/ brightness?
Unfortunately, no. There are some that do come close, Silverstars are the only ones that come to my age adled mind, that info is in this thread somewhere, but it comes at a cost. They are more expensive and don't last as long.
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:31 PM   #427
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Unfortunately, no. There are some that do come close, Silverstars are the only ones that come to my age adled mind, that info is in this thread somewhere, but it comes at a cost. They are more expensive and don't last as long.
I know which thread you're speaking of. I looked at it. It's not worth it. I've been given a ste for HID conversion. I might order off there unless a place like LightWerks can do it.
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:37 PM   #428
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I know which thread you're speaking of. I looked at it. It's not worth it. I've been given a ste for HID conversion. I might order off there unless a place like LightWerks can do it.
Just make sure it's a true 'conversion', not just the bulb & ballast put into a halogen housing.
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Old 09-27-2010, 10:21 AM   #429
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I'll keep that in mind so I don't mess up the housing.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:39 PM   #430
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Got an appointment to fix a fog light kit on my standard 2011 wrx at the service dept. Question," the service tech said that he could add a HID kit for 280 & 99 for the install. Is this a decent price and would this include the housing as well or is it just the bulbs in the halogen housing. Anyone else done this already?
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:53 PM   #431
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Got an appointment to fix a fog light kit on my standard 2011 wrx at the service dept. Question," the service tech said that he could add a HID kit for 280 & 99 for the install. Is this a decent price and would this include the housing as well or is it just the bulbs in the halogen housing. Anyone else done this already?
There is no such thing as a legit HID fog setup. Don't do it, leave the OEM fogs as they are.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:13 AM   #432
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There is no such thing as a legit HID fog setup. Don't do it, leave the OEM fogs as they are.
Agreed here as well. The prices are good but the OEM fogs are NOT designed to handle HIDs. The housings are too small to handle the heat generated by the HID capsules and I'd my memory serves me right they are plastic - a bod combination. Install a set of aftermarket fogs like the Piaa or Hella. They run about $600 a set plus installation.
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:26 PM   #433
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Agreed here as well. The prices are good but the OEM fogs are NOT designed to handle HIDs. The housings are too small to handle the heat generated by the HID capsules and I'd my memory serves me right they are plastic - a bod combination. Install a set of aftermarket fogs like the Piaa or Hella. They run about $600 a set plus installation.
Paying $280 for an HID kit made in China at a cost of $10 is a good deal? In no way is it a good deal. By the way, I have some swamp land for sale in Florida if you are interested.

However, HIDs in foglights, even if used in good quality HID fog optics, (which really don't exist) are not good a good idea. High capsule temperatures are the least of the concerns. There are plenty of reasons why no OEM uses factory HID fog lights. Hella doesn't even sell any HID fog lights, they know better as well. PIAA on the other hand is only half a step above the EBay Chinese HID kits. They sell the most overly priced, horrible quality lighting parts on the market. If you care for more information on why HIDs are bad in foglights you can read these...

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...fog_lamps.html
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...dvantages.html
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html

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Got an appointment to fix a fog light kit on my standard 2011 wrx at the service dept. Question," the service tech said that he could add a HID kit for 280 & 99 for the install. Is this a decent price and would this include the housing as well or is it just the bulbs in the halogen housing. Anyone else done this already?
First please fill out your profile. It makes it a lot easier for people to help you out, in answering your questions, if we can quickly see what you drive and where you are from right below your name.

Now, you really don't want HIDs in your fogs for many reasons, even if it wasn't such a rip off. Read those articles I posted above, and this one...

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

Even if it was a good modification, you could get the same thing on Ebay for $50.

Just to clarify something, this is at the dealer's service department, that is offering this to you? What dealer is this? I just can't imagine a dealer selling something so terrible, not to mention illegal. I don't know what your local vehicle inspection laws are like, but If the dealer is also an inspection station, like most are around here, this is a serious legal issue. They can't pass vehicles after they have put those junk HID kits in them.

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Old 11-10-2010, 01:04 AM   #434
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Maybe I should have worded my question better. I am getting the fog light kit from subaru installed on the car since I had ordered it with the car but it was not installed at the port and has to be done at the dealer.
When I was inquiring about a HID kit for the main lights the service tech told me that he could order one for 280 and install that as well when he works on the fog lights. Sorry for any confusion.

So is the HID light setup for the main beam illegal in Seattle? If not is it possible that the HID kit is the one that gets installed on the 2011 premium WRX'?

@fouronthefloor65 - filled out my profile.
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:34 AM   #435
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Thanks for filling it in.

It is illegal in all US states, and every developed country in the world for that matter, to put an HID kit in halogen headlights, fog lights, driving lights, back up lights, dome lights, whatever.

You didn't read those articles did you?

What the Premium WRX and STi have are completely different optics that are designed for HID. HIDs produce light in a totally different way, than halogen bulbs. The optics (reflectors, lenses, or other light controlling devices), are totally different between HID and halogen. The two different light sources are not interchangeable. These kits are extreemly low quality, dangerous garbage. Just because they allow you to physically fit an HID light source into a halogen headlight does not mean they work correctly, be safe, reliable, or legal.

If you want to see better for cheap, and search for H9 swap. If you truly want HIDs you should have bought a Premium, but you can always buy a set of used Premium or STi headlights and a wiring kit from www.lightwerkz.net. You could get them new from the dealer, but you don't want to know how much they cost. There is also the option of doing or paying someone to do a proper retrofit, where the entire projector is replaced with one that is designed for HIDs. Lightwerks also does these. A retrofit is not technically legal either, but if done properly, it will be perfectly save, and look just like the car came that way. No one will ever know.

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Old 11-10-2010, 02:15 AM   #436
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Thanks for the response. I wonder what the service guy is trying to sell me or if he even knows since they ordered the wrong fog light kit the first time around.

Didn't want to pay all that extra moolah for the premium to just get the HIDs. Will look into the two options that u have shared.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:10 AM   #437
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TRS has a retro fit kit for $330. They are plug and play using

Morimoto Mini HID Projectors.

http://www.3gwrx.com/forum/index.php?topic=14903.0
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:14 AM   #438
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what is the best or average bought semi-cheap HID for crystal GC headlights? i'm interested in a set but i keep hearing that it's not good to get HID for these headlights.

there are many GC8 over here on Okinawa that has HID. some were bought off of ebay.
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Old 11-26-2010, 06:10 AM   #439
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I'm making a harness for my bug eye jdm hid with OEM parts. Here is a picture



Do I need a fuse between anywhere although I'm using oe parts

Also the high beam is the top light correct?

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Old 11-26-2010, 10:52 PM   #440
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^That is a good question, I was trying to wire Morette HID's into an '03, but couldn't figure it out for myself, and I couldn't find a working schematic on line either. They are still not on the car.
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Old 11-27-2010, 10:43 AM   #441
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Well with my observations you don't. I see it like this. With wire harness I made I'm only using the common positive on the headlight plug and then grounding the ballast so there is no heavy draw. Each headlight has its on individual harness unlike most other harnesses. No direct hook up to the Battery

I hooked up my jdms last night and it all works perfect.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:10 PM   #442
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Well with my observations you don't. I see it like this. With wire harness I made I'm only using the common positive on the headlight plug and then grounding the ballast so there is no heavy draw. Each headlight has its on individual harness unlike most other harnesses. No direct hook up to the Battery

I hooked up my jdms last night and it all works perfect.
I'm glad that worked out for you, you may want to re-consider that solution, or not. A direct line from the battery will give you more light.
I, unfortunately, have no harness to start with. The car was wrecked, they put different headlights on the car, (long insurance story) and threw away the original harnesses.
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....I'm glad that worked out for you, you may want to re-consider that solution, or not. A direct line from the battery will give you more light.....
Another point for considering a direct battery connection with the use of a relay - - the HIDs can draw up to 20 amps momentary current when the lights are first turned on and the ignition voltage is applied to the lamps to strike the arc. And yes, one should always ensure a fuse is installed somewhere in the supply voltage line (whether it's in the fuse box or fuse panel for OEM installations or an add-on in the wire from the battery).
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So that fuse box fuse is not enough?
Also I tired doing a wire harness with a relay but the hids were coming on so as I touch the battery and I wasn't able to figure out why. Thats why I opted to the above harness. I still need to wire hi. Should I add the fuse between the common power?
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So that fuse box fuse is not enough?
Also I tired doing a wire harness with a relay but the hids were coming on so as I touch the battery and I wasn't able to figure out why. Thats why I opted to the above harness. I still need to wire hi. Should I add the fuse between the common power?
The fuse box fuse will work fine for incandescent (halogen) bulbs which alway draw the rated current (55 watts or 65 watts generally in the US). HIDs draw upwards of 15 plus amps (180 to 200 watts or so) instantaneously to fire off (or start) the arc in the HID bulb. Once the arc is burning, then the current drops to about 4 - 5 amps per bulb. The extra fuse in the wire coming from the battery to the HID ballast protects the HID ballast and circuitry. This leaves the fuse in the fuse box to protect the original wiring for the OEM head lights. Additionally, you'll use the positive wire going to the original low beam bulb to trigger the relay. The reason your HIDs came on using the relay and when you touched the main feed wire for the HID circuit to the battery is that you probably hooked the HID feed wire to the normally closed terminal on the relay. That means current will always flow through the relay contacts when the relay is not energized. Put the feed wire on the other relay terminal (normally open). That way, when you turn on the head lights, the positive OEM low-beam wire will supply +12 volts to the relay coil. It will actuate the normally open contacts and close them, sending power from the battery to the HID ballast.

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I am a new member here. traded my bmw for the subaru.
they guy a got the subaru was a member on here. My headlights are not oem they are the jdm 1 peice headlights. my ? is where do u plug the balast in at? they all go into that 1 plug, if any one could help me. correct me if i am wrong, they are h1s in the low beam correct. i just do not understand how to plug the balast in
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I am a new member here. traded my bmw for the subaru.
they guy a got the subaru was a member on here. My headlights are not oem they are the jdm 1 peice headlights. my ? is where do u plug the balast in at? they all go into that 1 plug, if any one could help me. correct me if i am wrong, they are h1s in the low beam correct. i just do not understand how to plug the balast in
First are the headlights designed for an HID Bulb? If not, just don't do it! You won't have the correct light pattern to put light on the road where you want it & blind oncoming traffic. Go with the HIR's in a standard fixture. If they are for HID's, you will need to plug the ballast into a relay controlled by the standard plug with power coming from the battery.
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anyone put and HID kit on the 09+ models? I was just about to get a set and some one told me that they are a hassle to put on because of some modulator? I have put on a couple plug & play sets myself just dont want to bite more than I can chew> anyone>anyone.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:07 PM   #449
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anyone put and HID kit on the 09+ models? I was just about to get a set and some one told me that they are a hassle to put on because of some modulator? I have put on a couple plug & play sets myself just dont want to bite more than I can chew> anyone>anyone.
See the post above yours...
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Old 03-14-2011, 03:33 PM   #450
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Has anyone ever heard of someone wrecking their car because they were "blinded" by someones HID kit? Im not defending HIDs(nor do I have them in my car) but I personally have never heard of anyone wrecking and seriously being injured but that doesnt mean its never happened..........just wondering if anyone has heard of that.
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