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01-27-2009, 01:54 PM | #301 | |
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01-27-2009, 02:12 PM | #302 | |
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01-27-2009, 02:29 PM | #303 | |
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01-27-2009, 04:13 PM | #304 | |
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Those look like ass. Plus, if the road is wet you can bet those two bits of wash down low are going to reflect like crazy. I was actually thinking about buying a kit just to see - they are available some places for less than 50 bucks. Seeing those pics, i won't bother. |
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03-01-2009, 09:17 AM | #305 |
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05 sti HID into a 05 wrx
how difficult is it to swap stock wrx headlights for sti HID?
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03-31-2009, 06:27 PM | #306 |
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I am still lost on the HID with Halogens. If my subie has Halogen projectors, buying any HID would be unnecessary? I just want a brighter light with a blue colour without having the light everywhere and destroying anything within my housing.
Last edited by JROK; 03-31-2009 at 07:38 PM. Reason: wasnt sure if they were projectors or reflectors |
04-02-2009, 03:11 PM | #307 |
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it's that the HID capsule(bulb) won't be focused properly in your 06 projectors. I have a set right next to me and they are terrible. the guy above doesn't know what he's talking about, looking at, or doing to other drivers around him. brighter light and bluer light isn't better but if that's what you want buy some silvania silverstars.
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04-06-2009, 08:52 AM | #308 | |
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Blue is bad. Ok, now to give you some upgrade advice... You want to buy Osram Silverstar H7s for the low beams, 9011 HIR bulbs for the high-beams and since the fogs don't really do anything, any old H3 will do. Those just seem to be for looks. I happen to run some CPI Gold Selective yellows. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954736 will give you the best info so far... |
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04-06-2009, 06:01 PM | #309 |
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Hey all, I have a quick question:
There are 2 silver wires that I don't know what they are. I am also assuming the black wire is also the negative, not the ground? Sorry for the newb question, I am currently at work and I am trying to do the install as soon as I get off work. |
04-06-2009, 10:42 PM | #310 |
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Ok so I just got the HID's installed, but my high beams and low beams are switched. Any suggestions about where to even start?
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04-09-2009, 04:59 AM | #311 |
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^ switching one of the wires to the other post did fix this right?
anyway, here's my own comparison now that i have a power source hooked up and all the equipment. tsx projector has a clear lens, 06 wrx has fresnel. the important thing to see is that the kit bulb has a very unfocused and lopsided, blotchy hotspot. this basically makes it impossible to see anything that isn't in that hotspot. the tsx is just as intense with a much less intense lightsource because it's got better focused optics, clearer chrome reflective plating, and a clearer, more efficient lens. |
04-09-2009, 08:55 AM | #312 | |
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04-09-2009, 12:44 PM | #313 |
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i haven't installed them yet but i will be using this writeup as a tutorial:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...t=tsx+retrofit those pictures are with the projectors in open air. it's about as hard as it looks, harder if you try to come up with a non-destructive mounting solution. i will attempt that but may end up just destroying what's there for simplicity's sake. |
04-22-2009, 10:34 PM | #314 |
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here's an even h7 halogen beam:
and here's an HID bulb in the same lamp: at the same camera settings with way more blown out highlights... but, and this is what you never see on pictures taken by people who don't know what they're talking about- here's what you see once your eyes adjust(and they do, eyes always adjust to the brightest part of a scene) as you can see the beam is far less even and is far worse for seeing things coming at you when driving. |
04-23-2009, 10:00 AM | #315 | |
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That one's eyes adjust to lighting is true - within certain limits. When the overall scene is dark, the pupils open as wide as possible to get as much light into the eye and onto the retina. Especially for older people (one needs as much as 10 TIMES more light at 60 and the pupil can't open as wide (see http://www.agingeye.net/visionbasics/theagingeye.php) there is little chance that their eyes will be "adjusting" to brightness levels at night while driving. So the theory that the eye will be effectively cutting down the brighter light of HID lighting is an unproven - and at least from my experience - false idea. Taken to it's logical extreme, I suppose some dim wide dispersion lights would be the best - after all one's eyes could theoretically "adjust"... |
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04-23-2009, 10:39 AM | #316 | |
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Even if you are saying that old people are not affected by light as much as young people, what point are you making? That it's OK to drive around Florida with an HID drop in kit because old people can't see anything? What about all the younger people driving around who do get affected by intense glaring light from an improperly focused HID ricer kit? |
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04-23-2009, 12:16 PM | #317 | |
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And incidentally, the dead spot is usually just about where the fog lights can fill in, if desired. And the brighter area from HID retrofits is further out where the extra light is most needed. Last week we rented a car on vacation with normal lights, and I was stunned by how little illumination they provided! |
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04-23-2009, 01:01 PM | #318 | |
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A good site to get started would be danielsternlighting.com Last edited by steverx05; 04-23-2009 at 01:18 PM. |
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04-23-2009, 01:28 PM | #319 |
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look at the 'unadjusted' picture for proof of how much more glare there is above cutoff. oncoming drivers, and drivers that have a normal amount of light in front of them, their eyes won't have time to adjust to the HID's glare. it greatly increases, even in projectors.
and fog beams don't have the penetration needed to "fill in" the gaps, and even if they did it still doesn't provide the even beam that you need to see properly. an even beam with a constant gradient is always better to see by, even if it's much dimmer than the uneven beam. it should also be noted that these projectors have their cutoff shields painted black, which decreases glare and cuts out the 'squirrel finder' feature that reflects light above cutoff. in stock lights the glare is even worse. |
04-29-2009, 07:11 PM | #320 |
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So, if I have an 08 WRX w the stock halogen projectors, there is no use in me trying to upgrade to a 4100K or 6000K HID kit in the stock projector?
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04-29-2009, 08:19 PM | #321 | |
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There are lots of problems. Stick with halogens unless you want to change out the projector for an HID one. Search for H9 swap, and buy those. Last edited by FourOnTheFloor65; 04-30-2009 at 12:25 AM. Reason: For some reason I though he had an 06-07. So it uses H11 bulb not H7, suggestion corrected. |
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04-29-2009, 09:16 PM | #322 |
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yea, I've read a lot of it. I understand I need the HID projector, but there is a lot I dont understand still, I just didnt know what is so wrong about using the halogen projector (extra dangerous light?)?
Anyway, for the 08 WRX what is the best projector to retro-fit and where can they be found? What'd be a decent price(if someone's already asked all of this about an 08, I only read the 1st few pgs. sorry)? |
04-29-2009, 09:27 PM | #323 | |
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If you are looking to retrofit some HID projectors, TSX and S2000 are some nice single beam projectors. TSX are definitely a great bang for your buck projector while the s2k's are much more expensive, but TOTALLY worth the extra money IMO. There's other options out there too and I'm sure someone else will chime in. You can find HID projectors on Ebay and the HIDplanet.com forums in the classified section. Hopefully that helps! |
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04-29-2009, 09:45 PM | #324 |
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Ok, Thanks man, I'm a newbie just tryin to learn. O, but if my wrx didnt come w foglights stock, what would be a good reliable foglight that I could put in that would fit in the stock location w hardly any problems (hella, prodrive)?
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04-30-2009, 12:32 AM | #325 | |
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I posted this in another thread so it may not make a whole lot of sense but I think it has some useful information that may help some people. Here is the thread that it came from, reading the thread may put it into perspective a little better.
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