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Old 05-04-2021, 08:57 AM   #8751
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Ahhaha funny that is posted, I came to this thread because crypto will be buying me a Porsche in the near future

It's already approved by the boss lady, so now i need to make a decision. I'm about 6 months out from buying something but I'm conflicted.
997 turbo + a few basic mods or new GT4.
AWD turbos turn me on, I know people love NA cars but...I just miss that turbo sound and I kinda like turbo lag. Also, i've wanted a 911 since I was about 9 years old, so there is also that.

BUt the GT4 is so.damn.sexy!!!

I'll prob drive the car a few times a month for some nice long drives, but i'm not planning on daily driving the car often.

The plus of the turbo is that it doesn't ask for attention, but at the same time..that's also a negative, seeing a 911 isn't a big deal. Although I've only seen 1 GT4 on the road ever and it was at a car show. I kinda miss having something novel.

obv the answer is to get both, but i'm not that crypo rich yet In time.
Any things I should be considering when making the decision?
I was in the same boat a few years ago when I was looking at a 2016 GT4. My wife was all for me to get a Porsche, but she kept bringing up the fact that I have always wanted a 911.

I went with the 991.2 GTS with PDK. I park my 911 for the winter, and wanted it in RWD. Will only see the track 2x this year. The AWD of the 911 is awesome, but I wanted a RWD hence no Turbo, for now. I am keeping my eye out for a C4S manual transmission, but would require me to get rid of a car for the parking situation.

Having driven the GT4 I am glad that I went with the 911. More room, more comfortable, and more civilized. If you are going to track the car then I would consider the GT4.

My biggest regret is getting rid of my 04 STi, as I really miss a manual transmission.


The 911 exceeds my expectations for what a fun car to drive, and does it comfortably.

Why not consider a 991.2 C4 GTS with manual transmission. Get all the fun of shifting yourself and your AWD drivetrain.


w.r.t. pricing I agree that the 997 TT, GT4 (along with most other 911s) seem to be appreciating (after their initial depreciation). FWIW, my dealer is trying to get me into a new Porsche, and is offering me close to what I paid on my 911 3 years ago. They are selling 2018/2019 similar spec'd cars (with more mileage) for close to what I paid in 2019 (new). The 2016 GT4s have gone up 15% in the last 3 years locally.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:10 AM   #8752
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As someone who currently drives a 997 TTS (trust me, it grabs plenty of attention in the wild) and previously DD'd a new 718S, I can tell you they scratch two very different itches. I also have some seat time in the newer GT4 and yup, that's a blast as well.

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Pro's
  • Silly fast, even by today's standards
  • last 911 with the classic chassis
  • gorgeous widebody hips, classic 911 styling
  • AWD - great in the twisties and that launch control is just bat****
  • Still fairly analog driving experience
  • 997's in general have already bottomed and have seen some crazy numbers recently
  • 997.2's are pretty much bullet proof in terms of reliability
  • Easily at 600hp with a tune

Con's
  • Requires exhaust - stock is very quiet (IMO)
  • 997.1's (Mezger engine) require preventative maintenance if not already performed (pinning/welding cooling lines and cams)
  • Old infotainment

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  • Pinnacle of performance
  • Fantastic styling. Definitely looks like an exotic racecar
  • Mid engine goodness - drives like a go cart
  • Engine howls at redline
  • Throws down lap times like nobody's business
  • All modern day interior / infotainment
  • Retains value very well
  • Plenty of storage space with the second trunk

Con's
  • Only makes power at top - have to drive it like you stole it for it to be fast
  • Still much slower than the 997TT
  • The gearing is too long (thanks Porsche. just admit it's better than the 911 already)

To be honest, you can't go wrong with either one. For me, they just scratch very different itches. If you want razor blade precision while winding it out with the engine howling near your shoulders, the GT4 is the call. If you want to mash the throttle and give yourself a ****-eating grin while getting the feeling the car might be trying to kill you, the TT it is. Best advice is to drive both to decide which experience is more addicting to you right now. The good news is that neither is really going to lose any money in a year or two (in fact the 997 will almost assuredly go up) if you decide to switch it up
Yep good summary

997TT = a solid performer for all situations and purposes.

GT4 = drive only if you intend to go balls out and run the Rev band with each drive, not very enjoyable when just pootling around.

So whichever you want to buy (non GT 911 vs Cayman GT4) just depends on how many hats you want that car to wear and what hats the other cars in your garage can wear so you don't have too much redundancy/overlap.
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Old 05-04-2021, 02:09 PM   #8753
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I agree, if you have fun raw buzzing lightweight sports car like the S2000, keep it, drive it and you don't have to be precious about it since it's already old.

Trade in the GT4 and put that towards the TCT, do you own the GT4 outright or expect to have significant equity in the car by the hypothetical time you would take delivery of a TCT?

I was almost $20k ahead on what I owed on my 911 Turbo by the time I sold it and simply allocated that money towards the TCT deposit and the remainder of the down payment when I pick up the car, thinking putting down $15k total when I take delivery, we'll see.
I do own the GT4 outright. ...and I really like not having a car payment and don't really want one! This is probably better suited for the personal finance thread, but I'm getting an itchy trigger finger sitting on some company stock and the GT4 down payment was what I did last time around.

Problem is I want to keep them all and get the TCT, but that makes NO sense. I mean, it's just the two of us, we only have a 2 car garage, and we don't need another car. So what do I get rid of? GT4 appears to be the answer to that. ...also have my eye on another motorcycle, too!

We were able to go on a quick test drive yesterday in a Taycan Turbo and it was nice. I mean, nice. I currently don't have a good analog to that car (that's me trying to justify it as an addition). But, I'd be lying if I said getting into the GT4 after wasn't fun, though. Hearing the engine, rowing through the gears, all that "Porsche purist" crap I roll my eyes at. But still, that Taycan was another level. Totally different animal.

I mean, I'm trying to justify the TCT as something for when it's too damn hot to ride the motorcycles, or rainy, or, or, or... Just something nicer for the wife to commute in that isn't a 2003 Tacoma. And I'd like more solid info on range. Family is ~250 miles away and I'm there 5-6 times per year. ...and I'm not sure that's enough reason to spend $100K on another car.

Dealer's leaning on me to get something locked in saying that the window for configuration closes 5/6. I'm afraid I'm not excited enough about this car like I was the GT4 to move forward.

...but I want to.
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:32 PM   #8754
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I do own the GT4 outright. ...and I really like not having a car payment and don't really want one! This is probably better suited for the personal finance thread, but I'm getting an itchy trigger finger sitting on some company stock and the GT4 down payment was what I did last time around.

Problem is I want to keep them all and get the TCT, but that makes NO sense. I mean, it's just the two of us, we only have a 2 car garage, and we don't need another car. So what do I get rid of? GT4 appears to be the answer to that. ...also have my eye on another motorcycle, too!

We were able to go on a quick test drive yesterday in a Taycan Turbo and it was nice. I mean, nice. I currently don't have a good analog to that car (that's me trying to justify it as an addition). But, I'd be lying if I said getting into the GT4 after wasn't fun, though. Hearing the engine, rowing through the gears, all that "Porsche purist" crap I roll my eyes at. But still, that Taycan was another level. Totally different animal.

I mean, I'm trying to justify the TCT as something for when it's too damn hot to ride the motorcycles, or rainy, or, or, or... Just something nicer for the wife to commute in that isn't a 2003 Tacoma. And I'd like more solid info on range. Family is ~250 miles away and I'm there 5-6 times per year. ...and I'm not sure that's enough reason to spend $100K on another car.

Dealer's leaning on me to get something locked in saying that the window for configuration closes 5/6. I'm afraid I'm not excited enough about this car like I was the GT4 to move forward.

...but I want to.
There's no wrong answer to this.

If you drive and enjoy your GT4 enough to justify keeping it, there's nothing wrong with keeping it

Also it will definitely hold onto its value the farther we move away from N/A manual trans sports cars.

I was kind of hoping to buy a used GT4 in a few years when I have some cash saved up but it looks like those prices are following the trend of air cooled Porsches, they won't be going down any time soon and the goal post is moving further away.

My only angle is once I have the TCT fully paid off in a few years I may shop around for a used GT4 then and consider one if prices haven't over inflated to an insane degree, and then replace the TCT with a more modestly priced EV (the Kia EV6 GT would fill that slot nicely).

But we'll see when that time comes, I'm hoping to always have one Porsche in the stable even if it changes every handful of years.
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:06 PM   #8755
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Funny thing, all this GT4 talk and this popped up on my YT feed:

A shop in NY offers a stroker kit to increasing the GT4 engine displacement to 4.5 L

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Old 05-04-2021, 04:28 PM   #8756
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:40 PM   #8757
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Yep good summary

997TT = a solid performer for all situations and purposes.

GT4 = drive only if you intend to go balls out and run the Rev band with each drive, not very enjoyable when just pootling around.

So whichever you want to buy (non GT 911 vs Cayman GT4) just depends on how many hats you want that car to wear and what hats the other cars in your garage can wear so you don't have too much redundancy/overlap.
great tips guys, thanks. I think it's clear the answer is get both
The answer of "drive them and see which one fits" is the right move, I'll need to do that.
In terms of maintenance etc, I assume they are similar? Obv the 997 is older so I'll run into stuff inherently in it (i'd be looking for ones w/ the IMS fixed and the coolant pins already done ideally), but I'd assume there isn't anything much different that I'd need to worry about?
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:52 PM   #8758
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great tips guys, thanks. I think it's clear the answer is get both

The answer of "drive them and see which one fits" is the right move, I'll need to do that.

In terms of maintenance etc, I assume they are similar? Obv the 997 is older so I'll run into stuff inherently in it (i'd be looking for ones w/ the IMS fixed and the coolant pins already done ideally), but I'd assume there isn't anything much different that I'd need to worry about?


997TT engines do not have IMS issues. Coolant lines / cam fixes are only required on the 997.1 Mezger engines; the DFI engines on the 997.2's don't suffer from these problems. Outside of that there's major service intervals but other than maybe aging spark plugs and coil packs they're one of the more reliable Porsche's out there.



The GT4's are too new to really have nay big issues manifesting themselves yet (GT$ owners feel free to chime in), and depending on the year you're likely still covered under the factory warranty.



PCCB's are great - make sure to check the rotors (if they are equipped) to check for wear, as you likely wont want to foot the $15k bill to replace ones that have been decimated by hard track use. The good news if you can buy steel bolts on conversions for roughly $2500 once those go, which they never should unless the car gets frequent hard track use.



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Nightly trip to stare at the car confirms the 997 never gets old

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Old 05-05-2021, 01:23 PM   #8759
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997TT engines do not have IMS issues. Coolant lines
this. mezger engines are 911 GT1 derived

I wish I had my old hosting account still I had pics from our shop where the 996 GT3 coolant pipe comes unglued, which dumps coolant right over the rear wheels and has a tendency to cause them to wad up into walls
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Old 05-08-2021, 01:06 AM   #8760
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For my 5th year anniversary of my GT4, I spent $8000 (gears, freight, install) to get shorter guards gears 1-4th along with aftermarket flywheel and clutch. Instead of second topping at 83mph, it tops out at 69mph shorter gears transformed this car to a brand new car

Along with all bolt ons + 718 GT4 clubsport intake manifold + Cobb br0tune, the car made 400 whp https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4-spyder/1237975-718-clubsport-intake-manifold-dyno-results.html

I have zero itch to get a GT3 now and will be upgrading to 4.5L down the line
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Old 05-08-2021, 01:22 AM   #8761
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The new 718 GT4 4.0L has engine problems

https://www.torquenews.com/9900/porsche-announces-stop-sale-2021-model-year-718-spyder-cayman-boxster-citing-connecting-rod-issues/amp

The old 981 GT4 9A1 3.8L motor has cam bolts that wear out but rare occurrence. Otherwise it is a solid engine I have 36,000 miles on my engine
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:15 AM   #8762
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For my 5th year anniversary of my GT4, I spent $8000 (gears, freight, install) to get shorter guards gears 1-4th along with aftermarket flywheel and clutch. Instead of second topping at 83mph, it tops out at 69mph shorter gears transformed this car to a brand new car

Along with all bolt ons + 718 GT4 clubsport intake manifold + Cobb br0tune, the car made 400 whp https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4-spyd...o-results.html

I have zero itch to get a GT3 now and will be upgrading to 4.5L down the line
AWESOME!

When I was shopping a GT4 potential plans were to either do what you did, or change the final gear ratio. Reading all reviews regearing 1-4 or changing the final drive transforms the car. I still want a 2016 GT4. Will live vicariously through you.
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Hey! That`s a great car, congratulations. I`d recommend you to read blog , many great articles and advices!
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Hey! That`s a great car, congratulations. I`d recommend you to read blog , many great articles and advices!
So kind, such praises.
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Old 05-13-2021, 04:17 PM   #8765
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So kind, such praises.
Much read.
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Old 05-15-2021, 04:27 PM   #8766
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So the latest development with my Cross Turismo order:

Turned out after a bit of research, I figured out the local dealership I placed my build order with, wasn't being fully transparent with me and jerking me around. They gave me the impression they had a build slot allocation from Porsche ready to go for the car I wanted, but that didn't turn out to be the case and they took my deposit and were basically sitting around waiting for an allocation to come their way



But thanks to some helpful folks on the FB Taycan group and the Rennlist forums, I was able to hook up with a dealership in TX (Grapevine Porsche) this morning who did have a build slot for a Cross Turismo 4S, and the sales associated I was referred to was super professional and we closed the deal in a matter of hrs. I paid my deposit (and getting the same deposit refunded back to me from my local dealership, so it cancels out) and they immediately send me confirmation of my build order including commision # and estimated delivery date (9/2021) which was more than my local SA accomplished in the past two months since I put down my original deposit.

So now I have at least have an estimated target date of delivery (subject to change of course) but a definitely build slot in the factory in Germany now.

Best of all, I optioned the PEC Los Angeles Delivery Experience for an additional $500 so I don't have to deal with arranging truck transport of my car and basically Porsche and the dealership will take care of it for me at probably half the cost of a private transport service, comes complete with a bells and whistles song and dance, free lunch and I hear possible track time on their course but I have to confirm that last bit.
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Best of all, I optioned the PEC Los Angeles Delivery Experience for an additional $500 so I don't have to deal with arranging truck transport of my car and basically Porsche and the dealership will take care of it for me at probably half the cost of a private transport service, comes complete with a bells and whistles song and dance, free lunch and I hear possible track time on their course but I have to confirm that last bit.
Thats a completely excellent big brained idea! You get the immediate allocation plus don't have to pay for transportation... Man, good stuff.
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Yeah here we go, the PEC LA Delivery experience does come with the VIP experience, lunch at their restaurant (quite good I've eaten there before) and 90 min time on their test track

https://www.porsche.com/usa/motorspo...y/yourarrival/
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So the ORDP just has the TCT sitting higher at the 'usual' setting, but both in Gravel Mode max out at the same height?

Interesting.....
Probably the best diagram I've seen so far illustrating the differences of tide height/ground clearance between the standard Taycan sedan and the TCT in all height modes.

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Tiff Needel's test drive review of the classic 911 GT1 homologation car

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So this was interesting, I get an email pertaining to my upcoming delivery about a whole checklist of items, one of which was the chance to spend even more money on a customized Porsche Design Chronograph available only to customers who order their cars direct from the factory.

For anyone bored here is the online configurator link, feel free to play

https://timepiecesconfigurator.porsc...ature=Preis-US



So I knew nothing about the actual quality or components of these PD branded watches (altho i have seen them in person at the local PD store at the mall). Some quick research consulting some fellow Porsche owners and watch enthusiasts led me to find out that Porsche Design used to subcontract the work out to Swiss watch brand Eterna (never heard of them) but now contract the work out to IWC (definitely heard of them).

While they seem like decent chronographs, the coolest feature by far are the customizable automatic rotors based on Porsche wheel designs, but are those worth another $2k on top of an already $5k Porsche branded chronograph that is probably worth closer to $3-4K without the branding? Probably not.



I definitely think that $5-6k is better spent towards a new Speedy Pro or the Tudor BB Chrono like I'm planning in the future. The only real value I can determine is if one is a total whore for Porsche branded merchandise and for flex/bragging points in the Porsche community that they ordered their cars direct from factory vs buying off the lot/second hand, I guess.
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Looks like someone in the UK got one of the 1st Cross Turismos out of the factory, at least some are being built to completion despite factory delays and parts shortages

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...my-ct-4s.5264/








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I found out that there is a waiting list for new GT4s, the dealer suggested I put my name down (and a refundable deposit) as it may be ~ 1 year until I can get one. I'm number 7 on the list right now!

Never done this before, so this is all new to me I think I may follow edkwon's move and call around to find a dealer who can get it sooner (at least 6 months!) and just have it delivered to LA for the driver experience so I can drive it back over a few days.
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I found out that there is a waiting list for new GT4s, the dealer suggested I put my name down (and a refundable deposit) as it may be ~ 1 year until I can get one. I'm number 7 on the list right now!

Never done this before, so this is all new to me I think I may follow edkwon's move and call around to find a dealer who can get it sooner (at least 6 months!) and just have it delivered to LA for the driver experience so I can drive it back over a few days.
Best of luck to you and good hunting. If you get lucky and find a dealership anywhere in the country that has an upcoming GT4 allocation and there aren't other more well established regular customers ahead of you in line vying for that allocation then go for it. Just give them that deposit, lock it down and make sure to get that commision # attached to the build allocation as confirmation. Also make sure you have a build configuration already done with a config code in hand when you're ready to pay the deposit, it'll make that dealership sales associate job easier to secure the build for you.

Once you accomplish, you can demand the deposit back from the first dealership you did business with them and they should give it back no questions asked. That's what I did when I did secure a build slot thru a TX dealership and asked for my local dealership (in CA) deposit back almost immediately. Make sure to talk directly to their finance manager, they should credit it back to whatever CC you used right away.

Once you do get an actual build slot in the Porsche factory queue and put a deposit down, then you're committed to a degree and can't easily ask for that deposit money back anymore, if for some reason you decide not to go thru with buying the car once its built and delivered you have a couple options that I know of:

1. let the car be delivered to dealership and the dealership must find another buyer who will sell it to another customer (they most likely will slap a dealer markup on the car that may turn away some potential buyers) and once its sold you get your deposit money, but it could take who knows how long, and it'll fall on you to keep track of things and know when its sold and ask for your money back, they should let you know but I'm sure many dealerships will have zero problem continuing to hold onto your money until you say something.

2. Find someone to take over your build allocation slot (and of course compensate you for at least the cost of the deposit, or maybe ask for a little more since a build slot to buy a GT car at MSRP is kind of a commodity, and make a little profit for yourself) then you have to contact the dealership and have to fill out paperwork so the ownership of that build slot is properly tranferred to the new buyer.

Any other questions feel free to ask or PM me.
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Best of luck to you and good hunting. If you get lucky and find a dealership anywhere in the country that has an upcoming GT4 allocation and there aren't other more well established regular customers ahead of you in line vying for that allocation then go for it. Just give them that deposit, lock it down and make sure to get that commision # attached to the build allocation as confirmation. Also make sure you have a build configuration already done with a config code in hand when you're ready to pay the deposit, it'll make that dealership sales associate job easier to secure the build for you.

Once you accomplish, you can demand the deposit back from the first dealership you did business with them and they should give it back no questions asked. That's what I did when I did secure a build slot thru a TX dealership and asked for my local dealership (in CA) deposit back almost immediately. Make sure to talk directly to their finance manager, they should credit it back to whatever CC you used right away.

Once you do get an actual build slot in the Porsche factory queue and put a deposit down, then you're committed to a degree and can't easily ask for that deposit money back anymore, if for some reason you decide not to go thru with buying the car once its built and delivered you have a couple options that I know of:

1. let the car be delivered to dealership and the dealership must find another buyer who will sell it to another customer (they most likely will slap a dealer markup on the car that may turn away some potential buyers) and once its sold you get your deposit money, but it could take who knows how long, and it'll fall on you to keep track of things and know when its sold and ask for your money back, they should let you know but I'm sure many dealerships will have zero problem continuing to hold onto your money until you say something.

2. Find someone to take over your build allocation slot (and of course compensate you for at least the cost of the deposit, or maybe ask for a little more since a build slot to buy a GT car at MSRP is kind of a commodity, and make a little profit for yourself) then you have to contact the dealership and have to fill out paperwork so the ownership of that build slot is properly tranferred to the new buyer.

Any other questions feel free to ask or PM me.
awesome man thanks for the info!
I'm also getting a little help from my local car storage place that has ties with the local Porsche dealerships. Hopefully that helps move the needle a bit.
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