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Old 07-20-2021, 07:31 PM   #26
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What were they thinking? I want to like it but it’s just so hideous.
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Old 07-28-2021, 01:28 PM   #27
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Pretty EZ to change grille M4. A simple snap on bar that covers the bumper underneath and splits grille into pc. I'm sue someones going to sell one soon. WTF some think that clown Shoe car looks good too.
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Old 07-28-2021, 02:10 PM   #28
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But did it have beaver teeth? Clown shoe beaver teeth?

You know what I wanna do after dropping 90k on a new car. Fiddle with a fix for a new car because it's so ****ing ugly if I don't. Sound and rational thinking.
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Old 07-28-2021, 03:07 PM   #29
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But did it have beaver teeth? Clown shoe beaver teeth?

You know what I wanna do after dropping 90k on a new car. Fiddle with a fix for a new car because it's so ****ing ugly if I don't. Sound and rational thinking.
Have you seen them in the flesh? Honestly it doesn't look that bad in person and it's the closest thing to Porsche performance as you can get in the performance/luxury segment. I am considering an xDrive version for what could be my last ICE car but I'm going to wait for LCI.
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Old 07-28-2021, 06:08 PM   #30
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That's what pisses me off. Why BMW why.
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Old 09-18-2021, 07:36 AM   #31
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2023 BMW M2 preview: What we know so far

New G87-gen M2 will remain RWD, and pave the way for an M2 Gran Coupe and fiery full-fat M 1 Series

BMW is developing a new rear-wheel-drive M2 performance coupe, as part of a future compact M car line-up that will include an all-wheel-drive M2 Gran Coupe and a 1 Series with around 300kW.

The second-generation M2 coupe, which takes the internal codename G87, is scheduled to go on sale in Europe in 2022, making 2023 likely for Australia. It will bring with it a detuned version of BMW M’s latest six-cylinder petrol engine, sourced from the new M3 and M4.

Despite the heavy camouflage of this newly spotted prototype, it looks as if the M2 will feature angular front-end styling influenced more by the Z4 and M8 than the controversially big-grilled M3 and M4. Flared arches, big wheels and a quad-exit exhaust will be the most obvious visual differentiators from the standard 2 Series, but upsized air intakes and aero-enhancing trim will complete the look.

Archive Whichcar 2021 03 12 1 2022 Bmw M 2 Spy Photos 16
The twin-turbocharged 3.0-litre petrol six, dubbed S58, replaces the similarly configured S55 used by the current M2 and promises the same high-revving characteristics, with a redline of 7200rpm.

Nothing is official at this early stage, but insiders hint that the S58 engine will be tuned to provide the new junior M car with at least 317kW in standard form – a 15kW increase over today’s M2 Competition – to top the 310kW of the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder in the Mercedes-AMG A45 S.

Together with 560Nm of torque, this should ensure off-the-line performance is on par with, if not better than, that of its predecessor, despite an incremental increase in weight due to slightly larger dimensions. Its 0-100km/h time should be in the low four-second bracket and its top speed close to 280km/h when configured with a final-drive ratio similar to today’s M2.


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Nothing is official at this early stage, but insiders hint that the S58 engine will be tuned to provide the new junior M car with at least 317kW in standard form.


The basis for the next M2 is the new second-generation 2 Series Coupe, itself heavily related to the third-generation Z4 and its Toyota GR Supra sibling.

Revealed in July, the new 2 Series Coupe takes a different technical route to the new 2 Series Gran Coupe by adopting the latest evolution of BMW’s Cluster Architecture (CLAR) platform. This ensures the future M2 will have a similar mechanical layout to today’s model, with a longitudinal engine mounting instead of the transverse layout of its four-door M235i xDrive Gran Coupe sibling, which is based on BMW’s Front Architecture (FAAR) platform.

The adoption of the CLAR platform also future-proofs the M2, to an extent, by providing it with the basis for a 48v electrical architecture, which is crucial for such features as regenerative braking and the option of an electric torque boost.


The new M2 is expected to go without mild-hybrid electric boosting at launch. However, with BMW’s M division already well advanced on such a system for the S58 engine, it could be incorporated during the car’s planned seven-year lifecycle.

As with today’s model, BMW plans to offer the new M2 with a six-speed manual gearbox and an electronically controlled Active M Differential. There will also be the option of an eight-speed torque-converter automatic transmission, which would be crucial if the car is to receive a mild-hybrid system. This will replace the current M2’s dual-clutch gearbox, matching developments elsewhere in the BMW M range.

As with the current M2, a number of traditional M division developments will elevate the new model above regular 2 Series Coupe variants. These include additional stiffening measures by way of suspension strut-tower braces front and rear, dynamic engine mounts and a wider track, the last of which again has necessitated new bodywork.


Despite the M division’s move to provide other recent M models with fully variable all-wheel drive, our sources say the new M2 will retain rear-wheel drive exclusively as part of plans to pitch it as a puristic, track-bred model in the best of BMW tradition.

The decision to stick with rear-drive will give the M2 a unique selling point in a market now dominated by all-wheel-drive rivals, such as the Audi RS3 and Mercedes-AMG A45 S.

“It’s part of what makes the M2 unique in its market segment,” said an insider. “It’s also what our customers have come to expect from BMW M: a pure and undiluted driving experience.”


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Wheels also understands the M2 will eventually be joined by a four-door namesake, despite previous reports to the contrary.

Rivalling the Mercedes-AMG CLA 45 and forthcoming new Audi RS3 sedan, the M2 Gran Coupe will get around 290kW from a highly tuned version of the M235i Gran Coupe’s four-cylinder engine and have fully variable all-wheel drive.

That ultra-potent four-pot will also transfer into the most powerful 1 Series hatchback yet, which will sit above the all-wheel-drive, 225kW M135i. It’s not clear what name this new flagship will take. M1 is considered holy ground, having been used on the first bespoke road-going M car back in 1978, and 1M was the widely used nickname for the limited-run 1 Series M Coupe of 2011.
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Old 09-18-2021, 08:14 AM   #32
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The term "Gran Coupe" scares me. Are they making the next M2 significantly fatter, bigger, longer and heavier?
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Old 09-18-2021, 09:22 AM   #33
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The last six paragraphs seem to contradict the four above it.
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Old 09-18-2021, 09:39 AM   #34
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The last six paragraphs seem to contradict the four above it.
Yeah, poorly written article. A clusterF, actually.
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Old 09-18-2021, 10:26 AM   #35
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Well most car news sites home page " Where Looking For Writers " is standard.
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Old 09-18-2021, 05:20 PM   #36
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It’s too bad the M240i won’t be offered with a manual transmission for the new generation. Even down 50hp on the current gen compared to the M2 most reviewers preferred the M240i for its softer ride and being basically just as fast for quite a bit less money.
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Old 09-18-2021, 06:04 PM   #37
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It’s too bad the M240i won’t be offered with a manual transmission for the new generation. Even down 50hp on the current gen compared to the M2 most reviewers preferred the M240i for its softer ride and being basically just as fast for quite a bit less money.
Really bummed about this. XDrive is on the 240i so all it needed was a 6MT to make its way into my garage. MF’ers.
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Old 10-26-2021, 04:58 PM   #38
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2023 BMW M2 Will Get 455-HP I6, Keep the Manual: Report

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Even though BMW makes some untraditional cars today, like the unusual yet apparently intriguing iX, it still hasn't forgotten its performance car roots. Along with unveiling a smattering of new electric vehicles, the M3 and M4 are still the same fire-breathing beasts they've always been. Likewise, the current M2 is a performance machine with few equals.

The Bavarian automaker has already given us a glimpse at the regular version of the updated 2 Series; however, the specifications of the M2 have remained a mystery. Previously, the smallest BMW performance car hasn't gotten a full-fledged "M" motor until special editions came around later in its production cycle. That's apparently changing now according to a long-time BMW insider on BimmerPost, who says the new M2 is getting the full-fledged S58 engine and more from the M3 and M4.

Now, it won't be exactly the same. As is typical with cheaper, smaller models getting the same engine as their larger, more expensive siblings, the S58 in the M2 will allegedly be detuned to produce 455 horsepower, as compared to its usual 473 hp. It may be less, true, but it's a difference of just 18 horsepower. And as the forum poster reports, the M2 will still get everything that makes M cars great.


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The user alleges a manual transmission will be available on the G87-chassis car, as well as "all the drivetrain and suspension things [on the] G82 [M4]." In a nutshell, that likely means an electronic limited-slip differential, re-tuned suspension with an option for adaptive dampers, and numerous other performance tweaks like updated aero and an optional carbon-fiber roof. The only items allegedly being left out as compared to the larger M3 and M4 are the carbon-ceramic brakes and nicer bucket seats.

So instead of a hopped-up 335i or 340i engine, this time we're reportedly getting the real deal "M" motor from the get-go. Seeing as BMW's combustion engine days seem to be numbered, we should feel lucky that's the case. Who knows how many more M2s we're gonna get; at least this one seems to have strong specs on paper.

We've reached out to BMW for comment on these claimed features and will update this post with the manufacturer's response.
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