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10-02-2020, 09:58 AM | #26 |
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$1,100 more for base V6 (+19hp, -14lb-ft torque) and AWD...for those that need AWD I guess.
The I4 turbo would be more fun with more torque, less weight, and RWD.
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10-06-2020, 06:54 AM | #27 |
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I think this refreshed IS looks great. It was very much overshadowed by the TLX launch. I think the TLX Type S was overhyped and now under delivering. Even with it's older platform, the refresh makes it a better buy. I hope they make the ISF version.
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10-06-2020, 07:56 AM | #28 |
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Yep, I've mentioned on that TLX thread there was nothing to see from the start. Honda has failed so many times at so many levels at making performance cars for us I don't even own a Honda now besides a portable generator (which has a safety fire recall I've not been able to get repaired yet). I'm real excited Toyota has put effort to kind of get back into the game.
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10-06-2020, 08:11 AM | #29 |
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Just this past Saturday 10/3/20 I was in Gatlinburg, TN and I heard a rumble of a V8 drive by me that sounded, well odd/exotic... but saw a Lexus coupe with the badge IS 500 on the rear end and was totally confused as to what I heard. My brother in-law pointed it out and said it was the Lexus rolling by. I had to look it up real quick on my phone to find out what it was lol Still had what I assumed were dealer paper plates and it was following another SUV type Lexus.
Looked really cool and sounded good to boot. Google said it supposed to have the 5.0 V8 w/ 7300 redline. |
10-06-2020, 05:26 PM | #30 |
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The Lexus V8 with an exhaust sounds amazing. I'm not sure how the motor differs in the current generation of 'X'500 cars, but looking on youtube for older ISF exhaust videos is ridiculous.
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10-06-2020, 07:06 PM | #31 |
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I love the IS-F's - wish one was available when I bought, I toyed with the idea of a 2nd gen ISF but they are too expensive for what you get on the used market (for me, anyways). I'm really looking forward to the rumors of the "IS-500" as a send off being true; Lexus makes a good sounding V8.
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10-19-2020, 07:21 AM | #32 | |
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[QUOTE]The 2021 Lexus IS Is a Deftly Tuned, But Aging Sports Sedan
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10-19-2020, 08:35 AM | #33 |
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Meh, I'll test drive one and decide for myself.
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10-19-2020, 09:12 AM | #34 |
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That's what I did.
On paper it's a dated chassis, dated infotainment, dated engine, but I drove it back to back against several vehicles and it was the right combination for me. Dual injection "bread and butter" Toyota V6 means it will only will need oil changes and air filters throughout it's life. The chassis is really good, the front lower control arm bushings are too soft so they can lead to premature front tire wear, there are several aftermarket options, as well as OEM options; it's the one hard part I'll actually be addressing/changing on the car as I tend to drive more aggressively so I assume I'll see premature inner tire wear. The 8spd is quick, not as quick as a ZF8, but it's no slouch. The 6spd in the AWD models is quick too, just not as quick as the 8spd. at 60k the Aisin boxes need a fluid flush, and it's inexpensive to have done at the dealer vs. a German car, on the order of a few hundred, I can't remember the exact number. There is no LSD offered in the AWD models either, I don't know why the reviewer thought there was, it's only on the RWD models. The RWD model feels better than the AWD model, the steering is sharper, the turn in is better, the front end feels lighter, but I understand why New England has exactly one RWD model rolling around in it right now; snow scares people. Weird model/packaging quirk - RWD models do not get a heated steering wheel; Wasn't a deal breaker for me, but Toyota assumed (correctly) that there wouldn't be many (if any at all) sales of RWD vehicles in colder climates. The cupholder location sucks for passengers, they are right where my wife wants to rest her elbow on the center console. The Fit and Finish are up to Lexus standards, as is the audio system. It's a super low maintenance car I don't have to worry about, that is reasonably quick, handles well, and is a very comfortable place to be; it's basically a very nice RWD V6 Camry, which is what I wanted out of a daily/road trip car this time around; wish it was a wagon with three pedals, and it had a couple more cylinders, but I'm strange like that. |
10-19-2020, 09:31 AM | #35 |
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Sid- Yeah, these article writer folks have too much time on their hands writing up all sort of BS confusing all the magazine spec racers. As how I was confused when these folks were raving about the FRS/BRZ when it was first released. They were saying 'it's like a Cayman' and all. I've driven plenty of Caymans and I'm like, no it's absolutely not. And ride height is low for stock, but nothing out of the ordinary for car guys like us who all drove lowered cars at some point in life.
In my mind I'm going back and forth between the RC-F and this new IS. I want clean fit and finish next and it's really between these 2 cars right now. I'm thinking since I already have a Supra I should get the sedan in RWD like yours. I think the RWD comes with staggered wheels/tires? I want that and will go aftermarket if not. Camry has always been a solid benchmark car when it comes to quality family sedans so I have nothing against the IS being compared to a Camry with extra luxury and power. |
10-19-2020, 09:53 AM | #36 | |
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Yeah if you've already got a coupe, a sedan is nice to have, but if you don't need a sedan, a couple coupes isn't a bad thing. |
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10-19-2020, 11:08 AM | #37 | |
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11-06-2020, 07:44 AM | #38 | |
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2021 Lexus TRD And Modellista IS
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11-06-2020, 09:26 AM | #39 |
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I like. Man this car looks really good.
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11-06-2020, 10:34 PM | #40 |
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I wrote a whole thing about transmission quirks by drive mode, and drivetrain performance, but there was an issue & somewhere between my phone, router & modem it was lost.
I suggest you talk to a dealer & arrange an extended test drive, or rent one on truro before you buy. Fit & finish are amazing, RWD models have the second best auto on the market, only slightly behind the ZF8; but manual replacement it is not. And although the car handles better than it's weight would imply, the LCA issue needs to be rectified (OEM & ***1072;ftermarket solutions exists). I don't regrer buying the car, I just wish it had another pedal & two more cylinders at this curb weight. |
11-06-2020, 11:12 PM | #41 | |
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Luxury cars to me should be AT, so I have no issue with it being AT. |
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06-05-2021, 02:37 PM | #42 |
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07-12-2021, 05:53 AM | #43 |
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leaked Info Option Packages Content etc. No Leather
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07-12-2021, 09:31 AM | #44 | |
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07-12-2021, 12:41 PM | #45 | |
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07-12-2021, 02:36 PM | #46 |
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Jeez how old is that interior now? I feel like I sat in a Lexus interior just like that a decade ago.
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07-12-2021, 02:41 PM | #47 |
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2013? Yeah.
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07-12-2021, 02:58 PM | #48 | |
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Sure it looks old. Subaru interiors look old too. However, only one of them rattles like a 1980 Chevy. |
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07-12-2021, 04:16 PM | #49 |
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235/40/19? That's a small foot print for 472HP. So what's the MSRP?
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07-12-2021, 04:38 PM | #50 |
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Hasn't been announced yet. Likely soon given they go on sale in the fall. That press release is from March and the launch edition is prolly all spoken for with only 500 numbered cars and a consumer base hell bent on buying everything for speculation.
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